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24-04-2010, 12:10 PM
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Courts and Kids
Hiya Guys,
Looking for some advice re courts and kids (scots law)
Father walks out when son is 6 months old, father has shown very little intrest in son both before and after walk out! No idea of routine, no doing nightfeeds etc etc.
Also there was an incident where father was charged with breach of the peace while son was in the house!
Father does pay maintence but he is on record saying that as he is self employed if it went through csa he would ensure that he had to pay very little!
Father has accepted access of once every 2 wks for 4 hours (mother of child has been very accomidating with regards to fathers work hours changing days etc to suit him)
If it went to court what kind of access would father get?
What do you guys consider fair access?
Looking for some advice re courts and kids (scots law)
Father walks out when son is 6 months old, father has shown very little intrest in son both before and after walk out! No idea of routine, no doing nightfeeds etc etc.
Also there was an incident where father was charged with breach of the peace while son was in the house!
Father does pay maintence but he is on record saying that as he is self employed if it went through csa he would ensure that he had to pay very little!
Father has accepted access of once every 2 wks for 4 hours (mother of child has been very accomidating with regards to fathers work hours changing days etc to suit him)
If it went to court what kind of access would father get?
What do you guys consider fair access?
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24-04-2010, 12:21 PM
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Sorry to jump on your thread but ive a similar question
I split up with my ex when my daughter was 1 n half (amicably)
I have never missed a maintenance payment
I get my daughter 3 weekends in 4 - pick her up friday night drop her off sunday night
The ex is now trying to cut this back to me having her 2 weekends in a row then her 1 then me 2 ect ect
I've refused and she's thinking about it, if i decided to take her to court will i likely get access to her every weekend?
I have my own home and she has her own bedroom fully decorated
I split up with my ex when my daughter was 1 n half (amicably)
I have never missed a maintenance payment
I get my daughter 3 weekends in 4 - pick her up friday night drop her off sunday night
The ex is now trying to cut this back to me having her 2 weekends in a row then her 1 then me 2 ect ect
I've refused and she's thinking about it, if i decided to take her to court will i likely get access to her every weekend?
I have my own home and she has her own bedroom fully decorated
24-04-2010, 01:07 PM
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just goes to show what c*nts women can be 4 hours every 2 weeks is a joke when me and my missus split last year i had our son atleast 3 times a week i had to go out of my way alot to do it but i still did now thankfully were back together
if i was the dad id go to court and want atleast every sunday then work from there and if it was refused id not pay a penny until an agreement was reached i think its discusting how children are used this way as it only them that will suffer in the end wether it be from no having contact with there real dad or not having the lifestyle they deserve because there mums decided to try send the csa after the dad so he doesnt pay up at all
a quick explination if this woman will get benifit ect regaurdless of weather the dad pays but if there on good terms the dad can pay direct the her without the csa involvment and then will be there to support the kids with extra cash when they need it ect and to just be a dad
if i was the dad id go to court and want atleast every sunday then work from there and if it was refused id not pay a penny until an agreement was reached i think its discusting how children are used this way as it only them that will suffer in the end wether it be from no having contact with there real dad or not having the lifestyle they deserve because there mums decided to try send the csa after the dad so he doesnt pay up at all
a quick explination if this woman will get benifit ect regaurdless of weather the dad pays but if there on good terms the dad can pay direct the her without the csa involvment and then will be there to support the kids with extra cash when they need it ect and to just be a dad
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just goes to show what c*nts women can be 4 hours every 2 weeks is a joke when me and my missus split last year i had our son atleast 3 times a week i had to go out of my way alot to do it but i still did now thankfully were back together
if i was the dad id go to court and want atleast every sunday then work from there and if it was refused id not pay a penny until an agreement was reached i think its discusting how children are used this way as it only them that will suffer in the end wether it be from no having contact with there real dad or not having the lifestyle they deserve because there mums decided to try send the csa after the dad so he doesnt pay up at all
a quick explination if this woman will get benifit ect regaurdless of weather the dad pays but if there on good terms the dad can pay direct the her without the csa involvment and then will be there to support the kids with extra cash when they need it ect and to just be a dad
if i was the dad id go to court and want atleast every sunday then work from there and if it was refused id not pay a penny until an agreement was reached i think its discusting how children are used this way as it only them that will suffer in the end wether it be from no having contact with there real dad or not having the lifestyle they deserve because there mums decided to try send the csa after the dad so he doesnt pay up at all
a quick explination if this woman will get benifit ect regaurdless of weather the dad pays but if there on good terms the dad can pay direct the her without the csa involvment and then will be there to support the kids with extra cash when they need it ect and to just be a dad
It was the dad not mentioned the CSA not the mum!! The mum isnt fussef if he pays maintence or not!
24-04-2010, 01:13 PM
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The mother would love the father to play a bigger role in the childs life but the father is unable to commit to this due to a lifestyle that isnt accomidating to the childs needs
24-04-2010, 01:14 PM
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Sorry to jump on your thread but ive a similar question
I split up with my ex when my daughter was 1 n half (amicably)
I have never missed a maintenance payment
I get my daughter 3 weekends in 4 - pick her up friday night drop her off sunday night
The ex is now trying to cut this back to me having her 2 weekends in a row then her 1 then me 2 ect ect
I've refused and she's thinking about it, if i decided to take her to court will i likely get access to her every weekend?
I have my own home and she has her own bedroom fully decorated
I split up with my ex when my daughter was 1 n half (amicably)
I have never missed a maintenance payment
I get my daughter 3 weekends in 4 - pick her up friday night drop her off sunday night
The ex is now trying to cut this back to me having her 2 weekends in a row then her 1 then me 2 ect ect
I've refused and she's thinking about it, if i decided to take her to court will i likely get access to her every weekend?
I have my own home and she has her own bedroom fully decorated
if the mum doesnt work then you could still do every other weekend but she could let u have her a night in the week say you could pick the kid up on the way home and then she could pick her up in the morning before you work
24-04-2010, 01:16 PM
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so basicly the mum wants the father to have more access and the father doesnt want know?
its hard to see what the problem is you said the father has accepted the 4 hours every 2 weeks so whats the problem?
its hard to see what the problem is you said the father has accepted the 4 hours every 2 weeks so whats the problem?
24-04-2010, 01:20 PM
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CSA isnt a route the mum would like to go down
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i would agree to every other weekend as the mums no getting time at the weekends if the mum works then shes just feeding her at night and putting her to bed so no real quality time
if the mum doesnt work then you could still do every other weekend but she could let u have her a night in the week say you could pick the kid up on the way home and then she could pick her up in the morning before you work
if the mum doesnt work then you could still do every other weekend but she could let u have her a night in the week say you could pick the kid up on the way home and then she could pick her up in the morning before you work
Thanks for that, I suppose if a got her once a week midweek it may work
it's SO hard, i want to see her as much as i can, chews me up everyday not seeing her
24-04-2010, 01:22 PM
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if i was the dad id go to court and want atleast every sunday then work from there and if it was refused id not pay a penny until an agreement was reached i think its discusting how children are used this way as it only them that will suffer in the end wether it be from no having contact with there real dad or not having the lifestyle they deserve because there mums decided to try send the csa after the dad so he doesnt pay up at all
The courts actually award children contact with their absent parent, not an absent parent contact with their child.
It is worth noting that in no way and in no form does the requirement for a parent to pay towards the upkeep of a child they do not live with have any bearing on contact surrounding that child. That is why parents deemed unfit for contact with children (where they pose a risk of violence and/or neglect) still have exactly the same obligations to provide financially for the child. The same as parents who choose not to have a relationship with their child cannot avoid paying for them,
I think it is disgusting any absent parent (there are a lot of mothers who are the parent without full time care too) would not pay for the child they helped to produce. Or that a parent's obligation to provide for their child should in any way be erased by the other parent not providing the child for contact. I cannot fathom why one parent relies on the other parent's failings to create another failing for a child already having a difficult time. Ridiculous.
As per the original question, 4 hours is a short time depending on the age of the child. 8 hours would be a more reasonable prospect if the child is young building up to an overnight stay.
Access can also be arranged via mediation as the costs for bringing contact hearings to court are very expensive where legal aid is not a factor.
As for having access to a child every weekend, I very much doubt the court would order access every weekend to one parent as the other parent would then be effectively prevented from weekend activities (this could impact on a child seeing extended family of the mother or indeed the mother if she has a job during the week), a very unfair situation. Better to request an evening or few hours midweek, age dependant.
*edited due to posts inbetween* If the mother wants the father to have more contact, a court order won't facilitate that. Plus I certainly would not want my child to be with someone who feels obligated to see them. Your child deserves to spend time with someone who makes them feel wanted and cared for. It won't do much for a child's self esteem if they had to spend hours upon hours with someone who would rather have been elsewhere. Maybe the father will see sense in the future and want to see the child more but if it is him who has devised the visit times then mum should just keep on as she is, trying to accomodate offers of contact.
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24-04-2010, 01:29 PM
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About the most hypocritical statement possible. It reads as; if I did not get given contact every sunday I would not pay a penny until I got what I wanted. Next sentence; I think it's disgusting how children are used in this way.
The courts actually award children contact with their absent parent, not an absent parent contact with their child.
It is worth noting that in no way and in no form does the requirement for a parent to pay towards the upkeep of a child they do not live with have any bearing on contact surrounding that child. That is why parents deemed unfit for contact with children (where they pose a risk of violence and/or neglect) still have exactly the same obligations to provide financially for the child. The same as parents who choose not to have a relationship with their child cannot avoid paying for them,
I think it is disgusting any absent parent (there are a lot of mothers who are the parent without full time care too) would not pay for the child they helped to produce. Or that a parent's obligation to provide for their child should in any way be erased by the other parent not providing the child for contact. I cannot fathom why one parent relies on the other parent's failings to create another failing for a child already having a difficult time. Ridiculous.
As per the original question, 4 hours is a short time depending on the age of the child. 8 hours would be a more reasonable prospect if the child is young building up to an overnight stay.
Access can also be arranged via mediation as the costs for bringing contact hearings to court are very expensive where legal aid is not a factor.
As for having access to a child every weekend, I very much doubt the court would order access every weekend to one parent as the other parent would then be effectively prevented from weekend activities (this could impact on a child seeing extended family of the mother or indeed the mother if she has a job during the week), a very unfair situation. Better to request an evening or few hours midweek, age dependant.
The courts actually award children contact with their absent parent, not an absent parent contact with their child.
It is worth noting that in no way and in no form does the requirement for a parent to pay towards the upkeep of a child they do not live with have any bearing on contact surrounding that child. That is why parents deemed unfit for contact with children (where they pose a risk of violence and/or neglect) still have exactly the same obligations to provide financially for the child. The same as parents who choose not to have a relationship with their child cannot avoid paying for them,
I think it is disgusting any absent parent (there are a lot of mothers who are the parent without full time care too) would not pay for the child they helped to produce. Or that a parent's obligation to provide for their child should in any way be erased by the other parent not providing the child for contact. I cannot fathom why one parent relies on the other parent's failings to create another failing for a child already having a difficult time. Ridiculous.
As per the original question, 4 hours is a short time depending on the age of the child. 8 hours would be a more reasonable prospect if the child is young building up to an overnight stay.
Access can also be arranged via mediation as the costs for bringing contact hearings to court are very expensive where legal aid is not a factor.
As for having access to a child every weekend, I very much doubt the court would order access every weekend to one parent as the other parent would then be effectively prevented from weekend activities (this could impact on a child seeing extended family of the mother or indeed the mother if she has a job during the week), a very unfair situation. Better to request an evening or few hours midweek, age dependant.
Thank you, answers my original question
24-04-2010, 01:39 PM
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being self employed you can fook the csa off at a whim, when we split last year my g/f said she did not want them chasing me at all as we had a good thing going and she didnt want to spoil it due to my violent history and unpredictable behaviour (not towards her) even tho there was no issue i paid her every week as i still do now even though were together
24-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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incorrect the mum wold get the same benifit no matter what so the kids wouldnt be affected in any way
being self employed you can fook the csa off at a whim, when we split last year my g/f said she did not want them chasing me at all as we had a good thing going and she didnt want to spoil it due to my violent history and unpredictable behaviour (not towards her) even tho there was no issue i paid her every week as i still do now even though were together
being self employed you can fook the csa off at a whim, when we split last year my g/f said she did not want them chasing me at all as we had a good thing going and she didnt want to spoil it due to my violent history and unpredictable behaviour (not towards her) even tho there was no issue i paid her every week as i still do now even though were together
Prior to april this year, where a man paid child support to a mother reliant on benefits, the mother would only receive Ł20 a week before it affected her benefit payments. That is still Ł80 a month she would be down if the father did not pay due to his whims and reckon.
However now, you are entirely incorrect as from april child support is entirely disregarded for the calculation of any benefits a mother receives. So a child will be out of pocket for whatever sum is unpaid by a father.
If the mother is working (many do) then missing maintenance payments would represent a loss to the mother's household income and thus would have the potential to negatively impact on a child.
Futhermore, the CSA can (although I think it is for a 2 year trial period) remove driving licences and passports without a court order for unpaid maintenance, in addition to the deduction of earnings orders/interim charging orders etc they can impose via court.
24-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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Isaac.Hunt you are correct but tbh the benifit system is a joke and as for the courts they will side with the mother
tbh i cant see why ppl go to court its all about being fair
tbh i cant see why ppl go to court its all about being fair
24-04-2010, 01:53 PM
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Just to be overly pedantic as you are obviously keen to spread incorrect information.
Prior to april this year, where a man paid child support to a mother reliant on benefits, the mother would only receive Ł20 a week before it affected her benefit payments. That is still Ł80 a month she would be down if the father did not pay due to his whims and reckon.
However now, you are entirely incorrect as from april child support is entirely disregarded for the calculation of any benefits a mother receives. So a child will be out of pocket for whatever sum is unpaid by a father.
If the mother is working (many do) then missing maintenance payments would represent a loss to the mother's household income and thus would have the potential to negatively impact on a child.
Futhermore, the CSA can (although I think it is for a 2 year trial period) remove driving licences and passports without a court order for unpaid maintenance, in addition to the deduction of earnings orders/interim charging orders etc they can impose via court.
Prior to april this year, where a man paid child support to a mother reliant on benefits, the mother would only receive Ł20 a week before it affected her benefit payments. That is still Ł80 a month she would be down if the father did not pay due to his whims and reckon.
However now, you are entirely incorrect as from april child support is entirely disregarded for the calculation of any benefits a mother receives. So a child will be out of pocket for whatever sum is unpaid by a father.
If the mother is working (many do) then missing maintenance payments would represent a loss to the mother's household income and thus would have the potential to negatively impact on a child.
Futhermore, the CSA can (although I think it is for a 2 year trial period) remove driving licences and passports without a court order for unpaid maintenance, in addition to the deduction of earnings orders/interim charging orders etc they can impose via court.
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People go to court to ascertain the legal position of the concerned parties. They do not offer anything else.
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24-04-2010, 02:20 PM
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1)she cant come back to my mums
2)i dont live there
3)i still pay as if were seperated
and we'll now stay like this until she finished her degree then we can actually get back together she'll ditch the flat and we'll buy a house its called making use of the system the fact ive never claimed any benifits ect and paid alot of tax and i mean ALOT over 2k in a month at my highest point i think were entitled to some money back when times are hard thats the whole point of the system
just making clear were not scroungers and both worked prior to her having the baby and going to uni lol
24-04-2010, 04:29 PM
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AINT CSA BEEN DITCHED ?
csa take 30% of the fathers income, if the women is on the ponce she will get 20 quid and the rest of it goes towards her housing benifit/council tax and her income support so what happens is daddy dont get the cash to spend on hes kid due to paying for hes ex to live,,,, which dont make a difference who left who and the mum ALWAYS gets custody, that makes it a fair system dont it ????
csa take 30% of the fathers income, if the women is on the ponce she will get 20 quid and the rest of it goes towards her housing benifit/council tax and her income support so what happens is daddy dont get the cash to spend on hes kid due to paying for hes ex to live,,,, which dont make a difference who left who and the mum ALWAYS gets custody, that makes it a fair system dont it ????
24-04-2010, 05:44 PM
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i have custody of both my boys and originally my daughter stayed with her mum............ however times have changed and my daughter now lives with me as well, the courts are still biased to the mother but more and more it seems the system is actually looking out for the welfare of the kids.
03-05-2010, 07:51 AM
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As the father in question I feel it only right that i put my side of the story on this discussion for advice.
Father walks out due to (personal), that is affecting the children of the house. I had tried every other option, walking out was my last. I dont regret it, but I am very sorry!
Father has always played, held, day feeds loved the kids.
Didnt feel it nesesary for both perents to attend the medical oppointments as im self employed.
Was not charged with breach of the peace.
Maintanance is not an issue, pay the same as other employed fathers. I brought up CSA to prove i was been responsable and had considered my actions. I said "dont involve csa as on my earning you would get very little". I am trying very hard to keep the hole thing amacable.
I just want to see my son as often as possiable. He now lives 90 miles away. I attend car shows throught the season so Sundays visits are not the best option, however I do still agre to them. I will do any day. The mum gives me a date then changes it. I have never turnerd a visit down. I have only asked once for a different day, which I got.
Advice now please, do I continue to allow mum to call the shots or go to court to get it all tied up?
Thanks,
Father walks out due to (personal), that is affecting the children of the house. I had tried every other option, walking out was my last. I dont regret it, but I am very sorry!
Father has always played, held, day feeds loved the kids.
Didnt feel it nesesary for both perents to attend the medical oppointments as im self employed.
Was not charged with breach of the peace.
Maintanance is not an issue, pay the same as other employed fathers. I brought up CSA to prove i was been responsable and had considered my actions. I said "dont involve csa as on my earning you would get very little". I am trying very hard to keep the hole thing amacable.
I just want to see my son as often as possiable. He now lives 90 miles away. I attend car shows throught the season so Sundays visits are not the best option, however I do still agre to them. I will do any day. The mum gives me a date then changes it. I have never turnerd a visit down. I have only asked once for a different day, which I got.
Advice now please, do I continue to allow mum to call the shots or go to court to get it all tied up?
Thanks,
Hiya Guys,
Looking for some advice re courts and kids (scots law)
Father walks out when son is 6 months old, father has shown very little intrest in son both before and after walk out! No idea of routine, no doing nightfeeds etc etc.
Also there was an incident where father was charged with breach of the peace while son was in the house!
Father does pay maintence but he is on record saying that as he is self employed if it went through csa he would ensure that he had to pay very little!
Father has accepted access of once every 2 wks for 4 hours (mother of child has been very accomidating with regards to fathers work hours changing days etc to suit him)
If it went to court what kind of access would father get?
What do you guys consider fair access?
Looking for some advice re courts and kids (scots law)
Father walks out when son is 6 months old, father has shown very little intrest in son both before and after walk out! No idea of routine, no doing nightfeeds etc etc.
Also there was an incident where father was charged with breach of the peace while son was in the house!
Father does pay maintence but he is on record saying that as he is self employed if it went through csa he would ensure that he had to pay very little!
Father has accepted access of once every 2 wks for 4 hours (mother of child has been very accomidating with regards to fathers work hours changing days etc to suit him)
If it went to court what kind of access would father get?
What do you guys consider fair access?
03-05-2010, 08:00 AM
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As the father in question I feel it only right that i put my side of the story on this discussion for advice.
Father walks out due to (personal), that is affecting the children of the house. I had tried every other option, walking out was my last. I dont regret it, but I am very sorry!
Father has always played, held, day feeds loved the kids.
Didnt feel it nesesary for both perents to attend the medical oppointments as im self employed.
Was not charged with breach of the peace.
Maintanance is not an issue, pay the same as other employed fathers. I brought up CSA to prove i was been responsable and had considered my actions. I said "dont involve csa as on my earning you would get very little". I am trying very hard to keep the hole thing amacable.
I just want to see my son as often as possiable. He now lives 90 miles away. I attend car shows throught the season so Sundays visits are not the best option, however I do still agre to them. I will do any day. The mum gives me a date then changes it. I have never turnerd a visit down. I have only asked once for a different day, which I got.
Advice now please, do I continue to allow mum to call the shots or go to court to get it all tied up?
Thanks,
Father walks out due to (personal), that is affecting the children of the house. I had tried every other option, walking out was my last. I dont regret it, but I am very sorry!
Father has always played, held, day feeds loved the kids.
Didnt feel it nesesary for both perents to attend the medical oppointments as im self employed.
Was not charged with breach of the peace.
Maintanance is not an issue, pay the same as other employed fathers. I brought up CSA to prove i was been responsable and had considered my actions. I said "dont involve csa as on my earning you would get very little". I am trying very hard to keep the hole thing amacable.
I just want to see my son as often as possiable. He now lives 90 miles away. I attend car shows throught the season so Sundays visits are not the best option, however I do still agre to them. I will do any day. The mum gives me a date then changes it. I have never turnerd a visit down. I have only asked once for a different day, which I got.
Advice now please, do I continue to allow mum to call the shots or go to court to get it all tied up?
Thanks,
Sorry you were not charged the charges were dropped but they are been kept on file and if you get in to trouble again they will be reinstated!!!!!!!!
Hmmmm as for seeing your son as often as possible the above post says it all I ATTEND EVENTS ON A SUNDAY!!! What comes first???
As we all know you cant attend any events cos your car isnt up and running!!!!
You have only been given one date that has been changed which is next sunday! You have been perfectly happy with your level of access.
If you wanna get dirty we should also mention the fact that min maintence then daddy goes a buys a FRS (nice car who can blame him) while his son shares a room with his mum and big sister.
My advice to SAS Get a solicitor!!!! Your unfit to be a father and i have the evidence that backs that up...........The intensive care episode where you walked out as your son was lying on CPAP after major heart sugery while i begged you in tears to stay!!!!!!!! Need i go on!!!!!!!!!
03-05-2010, 08:34 AM
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do what i did go to see a solicitor she sent a letter to my ex suggesting she sets a permanent arrangement up between us (i now have them every other weekend) and been fine ever since she never thought i would start legal proceedings agaisnt her and when she got threantened with court she changed her tune and my solicitor said that happens in 90% off cases.
on a more personal note i hope you can sort it out as i have been there and it is a horrible position to be in and i belive every child needs a father in there life and no child should be denied that unless they are in any kind off danger from the father.
on a more personal note i hope you can sort it out as i have been there and it is a horrible position to be in and i belive every child needs a father in there life and no child should be denied that unless they are in any kind off danger from the father.
03-05-2010, 01:44 PM
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PassionFord Post Whore!!
Sorry you were not charged the charges were dropped but they are been kept on file and if you get in to trouble again they will be reinstated!!!!!!!!
Hmmmm as for seeing your son as often as possible the above post says it all I ATTEND EVENTS ON A SUNDAY!!! What comes first???
As we all know you cant attend any events cos your car isnt up and running!!!!
You have only been given one date that has been changed which is next sunday! You have been perfectly happy with your level of access.
If you wanna get dirty we should also mention the fact that min maintence then daddy goes a buys a FRS (nice car who can blame him) while his son shares a room with his mum and big sister.
My advice to SAS Get a solicitor!!!! Your unfit to be a father and i have the evidence that backs that up...........The intensive care episode where you walked out as your son was lying on CPAP after major heart sugery while i begged you in tears to stay!!!!!!!! Need i go on!!!!!!!!!
Hmmmm as for seeing your son as often as possible the above post says it all I ATTEND EVENTS ON A SUNDAY!!! What comes first???
As we all know you cant attend any events cos your car isnt up and running!!!!
You have only been given one date that has been changed which is next sunday! You have been perfectly happy with your level of access.
If you wanna get dirty we should also mention the fact that min maintence then daddy goes a buys a FRS (nice car who can blame him) while his son shares a room with his mum and big sister.
My advice to SAS Get a solicitor!!!! Your unfit to be a father and i have the evidence that backs that up...........The intensive care episode where you walked out as your son was lying on CPAP after major heart sugery while i begged you in tears to stay!!!!!!!! Need i go on!!!!!!!!!
Don't know the full ins and outs but it looks like you've posted that to get a reaction from him rather than advice. Why put that on here? His account here is a lot older looking at that.
The way you're coming across makes me think you'd be a right pain in the flute in person.
What's him buying a car got to do with you if split? If you want one go and earn it and if you're sharing a room etc then that's your problem. Payments is meant for the CHILD not for you and I doubt many fathers paying child support would pay enough to fund a full house (or a palace as you probably want).
Too many mothers out there seem to think the money is for them and they can skim a 'little' off the top.
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