I'm finally in a position to buy a new motor but which is the question.

I want a Focus RS BUT have been told that a Code Red is a lot more fun and a lot faster.

Just would like peoples thoughts.

Cheers

 

Get an RS. Better base, better resale.

Why is the Code Red quicker? Tuning package? You will have 300 to begin with in an RS and that can easily be upped.

 

No comparison. I'd put money on the 330bhp ST's being slower than a standard RS.

Benni.

 

Whats a Code red???

 

A tuning Co...

 

Not always the case I'm afraid and I'm an RS owner

 

Deff wrong, even with other maps on the ST the midrange surge is far more aggressive than the RS's nice smooth power band.
Top end though is a different story.
However, a RS is a far better base to begin with, and I WANT one. But you cannot ignore the fact that a ST wont be miles and miles off remapped, and they are going for around 11k and a dreamscience/code red/bluefin is Ł400 odd. Yes im comparing a moddified car to a standard one blah blah, and yes a RS with a remap with then trounce most STs, but that package is 30k!
So Ł for bhp the ST is a very good car.

Mike

 

well my standard rs pisses on my mates 330bhp cossie so i cnt see a tuned st running similar to be a problem imo.

 

Yeah was just about to say that.

Didnt they do a test in Evo or something with a mapped ST Vs a RS and the ST was just as quick if not quicker.

Id go for an RS though, if your going to buy a Focus, buy the real deal mate.

 

yup agree buy the real deal mate.

 

The ST was faster in midrange acceleration, side by side from 110 onwards the RS's times were faster.

Mike

 

are you on about a mk1 focus rs or mk2 rs?

 

Mk2 RS mate

 

If you have got the spare cash to buy and run a Focus RS properly... buy it and Mountune it.

If you don't have the spare cash to buy and run a Focus RS properly... buy the ST, map it and enjoy the fact you've got a car which is 90% as quick as an RS for less than 50% of the cash.

Simple really.


Cheers,
Grant

 

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evol..._focus_rs.html

Seems the Mountune ST which is basically just a re mapped ST was faster than the RS through the gears and between most speeds, with the RS only having the legs top end.

Am sure it would be a different story if the RS was re mapped though.

 

we are talking here about a tuned car vs standard....in order to to both cars justice tune em both and then judge or keep them both standard and judge!..

its like saying should i buy a rs turbo or a new focus rs cos if i spend 10k on the rs turbo ill be just a good and faster.....

 

Also has a filter, cooler and cat back exhaust...
As in the Mountune 350RS kit

 

Worth noting in EVO that those were straight line tests between the ST ( mountune ) and the standard RS, and altho in some aspects the ST was quicker, the RS was 2 seconds faster round their track at bedford, so clearly the chassis/package as a whole is far superior to a tuned ST

 

I would suggest buying the RS, I bought one and chopped my ST in for it, considered the upgrades etc. to the ST but decided to go down the RS route in the end.
End of the day buy what YOU think you'll enjoy the most, thats the most important thing

 

Well someones cossie is a bag of shite

No offence mate but extra power and LOADS lighter should see the cossie beat you no sweat. However most "330" cossies just arent.

I think my mildly tuned mk1 is faster than a standard mk2 and i know a stage 3 saff would destroy me.

Dont take it the wrong way, i fucking love mk2's!

 

you'd loose your money then mate.

I watched a
Standard Focus RS on the (DD) rolling road the other day and it made 260 bhp.

thats quite a difference.

 

aren't most of them down on power, i read something about a software upfdate needed??

 

round a track the cossie has nothing handeling wise compared to it.

i find the issue of cost hard to ignore...a tuned st for less then half the price, yes itll not be as quick if the rs is mapped and wont be as quick round the corners but 15k is alot of saving for not a huge loss

 

I dont believe that for one minute, sorry Mat, RS is the better car by the way as per original question, but im sorry Matt i would realy have to see that to believe that, 330bhp Cossie against a heavy 300hp FWD Focus? I dont think so. I know your gonna say have you driven an RS and no I havent but the facts are there and ive driven a stage 3 cos and there manic.

 

Yup, my ST is remapped, and is claimed by the tuner to be around 270bhp / 330 lbft. It goes alright, was behind a mk2 RS a while back and yes, in a straight line, it was quicker. But definately not the extra Ł15k quicker!

So yeah, save yourself some cash and get an ST and tinker with it a bit IMO

 

+1

 

come on mat get the video up or it didn't happen

 

well i must be dreaming then....

your welcome to come be a passenger no probs.

 

no thanks,

 

i think you are son

 

whats up with being a passenger with someone that can pedal eh...

 

look mate.. 1 dont call me son its a pet hate!!

2 i know what i have done and not done.

i never said the car in a straight line was faster. but where we race round here he cudnt touch me.

 

I agree round a "track" you'll win but sorry i was classing "faster" as straight line etc

 

nah man..in real mans terms out on the twisties doing it...


anyhow pardeep get a rs mate...ull love it.

 

It does seem that the RSs with the latest Ford software update (cal) make the 'correct' power!

 

Go for the ST and save yourself a truckload of cash. The RS may have the edge judging by other peoples replies (before you all pounce, no i've never driven either although i would love to) but on todays roads where can you use that little extra ooomph unless you intend to track it. Until this country gets its roads fixed from potholes i think i'd rather take it a bit easy anyway.

 

random question does any one know what the mk2 rs makes power wise at the wheels?? the 305bhp is at the crank/fly right?

 

Whoever told you the Code:Red was faster was telling porkies. The Code:Red maps are generally less powerful than their competitors, but have a good smooth spread of torque for good driveavility.

The two cars you're on about are very different, with very different price tags. If you can stretch to the full RS then do it, if you're on a budget you'll be very satisfied with a tweaked ST.

 

To summarise:
If you're a cheapskate dreamer who believes the ST might be better get the code red.
If you want a fast car straight from the showroom get the RS.

 

pmsl @ the tag "bennitard strikes again"