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Old 13-02-2010, 04:32 AM
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Acceleration Explained

* One Top Fuel dragster outfitted with a 500 cubic-inch replica Dodge
(actually Keith Black, etc) Hemi engine makes more horsepower (8,000 HP)
than the first 4 rows at NASCAR's Daytona 500.

* Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro
methane per second; a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same
rate but with 25% less energy being produced.

* A stock Dodge Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to merely drive
the dragster's supercharger.

* With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the
fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition..
Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lockup at full throttle.

* At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitro methane, the flame
front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.

* Nitro methane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the
stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water
vapor by the searing exhaust gases.

* Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. Which is typically the
output of an electric arc welder in each cylinder.

* Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way
thru the run, the engine is 'dieseling' from compression and the glow of the
exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by
cutting the fuel flow.

* If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in
the affected cylinders and then explodes with enough sufficient force to
blow the cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half!!

* Dragsters reach over 300 MPH +... before you have completed reading this
sentence.

* In order to exceed 300 MPH in 4.5 seconds, a dragster must accelerate an
average of over 4 G's.. In order to reach 200 MPH well before reaching
half-track, at launch the acceleration approaches 8 G's.

* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under
load..

* The redline is actually quite high at 9500 RPM.

* THE BOTTOM LINE: Assuming all the equipment is paid for, the pit crew is
working for free, and nothing blows up, each run will cost an estimated
$1,000+ per second.

0 to 100 MPH in .8 seconds (the first 60 feet of the run)

0 to 200 MPH in 2.2 seconds (the first 350 feet of the run)

6 G-forces at the starting line (nothing accelerates faster on land)

6 negative G-forces upon deployment of twin 'chutes at 300 MPH

A NHRA Top Fuel Dragster accelerates quicker than any other land vehicle on
earth... quicker than a jet fighter plane....quicker than the space
shuttle....or snapping your fingers!!

The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.420 seconds for the
quarter-mile (2004, Kalitta)

The top speed record is 337.58 MPH as measured over the last 66' of the run
(2005, Tony Schumacher)

Let's now put this all into perspective:
Imagine this............You are driving a new $140,000 Lingenfelter
twin-turbo powered Corvette Z-06.. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel
dragster is staged & ready to 'launch' down a quarter-mile strip as you
pass.

You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the Vette hard on up
through the gears and blast across the starting line & pass the dragster at
an honest 200 MPH. The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that exact
second.

The dragster departs & starts after you. You keep your foot buried hard to
the floor, and suddenly you hear an incredibly brutally screaming whine that
seares and pummels your eardrums & within a mere 3 seconds the dragster
effortlessly catches & passes you. He beats you to the finish
line, a quarter-mile away from where you just passed him AT 200 MPH. Think
about it - from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200
MPH.....and it not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the planet when
he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race!!!!

That, my friends.....is ACCELERATION!
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cool read
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I love the smell of nitro and the burn in your eyes
Old 13-02-2010, 06:41 AM
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holy shit sticks, and i thought my mates rx7 draggester was quick
Old 13-02-2010, 06:53 AM
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Cool read, it makes me wonder how anyone could withstand that acceleration, even for such a short period, crazy!!
Old 13-02-2010, 07:49 AM
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Ive seen that somewhere before, TBH it defies belief!!

and you still cant appreciate 0-300 in 4 seconds until you see it first hand!

UNREAL machines. lol
Old 13-02-2010, 10:20 AM
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Fastest time i saw was a 4,77 in Hockenheim 2008 by Dutchman Lex Joon, the sound they produce when they take off thrills me every time i feel it, just awesome
Old 13-02-2010, 10:25 AM
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Very intersting mate.
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Think this will suit this thread

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2d8Cv5K-GHY
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Nice write up and some interesting facts. 500cu thats like 8.2 litre

A 5.7 Stock HEMi cannot turn the supercharger??
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Originally Posted by .Ross.
Nice write up and some interesting facts. 500cu thats like 8.2 litre

A 5.7 Stock HEMi cannot turn the supercharger??
yes the 14:71 supercharger demands over 500bhp just to turn
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Originally Posted by MARCOSWORTH
I love the smell of nitro and the burn in your eyes
I remember standing behind my Dad's Cooper 500 running methnol and Nitromethane leaving the line (Speed Hill Climb) and it's like tear gas, hurts like hell.
Rich
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Originally Posted by meanxpress
yes the 14:71 supercharger demands over 500bhp just to turn


Even the latest 6.1 HEMi hasnt got them numbers ...
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well if you think your low ohm injectors flow a lot check this test out,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lrMWszCR4
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Originally Posted by meanxpress
well if you think your low ohm injectors flow a lot check this test out,,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5lrMWszCR4
Old 14-02-2010, 08:51 AM
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Puts things into perspective LOL.

The slow motion stuff is proper cool too.
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Some amazing facts!

But what does this bit mean?

* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under
load..

What do they mean by revolutions in that context?

Is it how many rpm's it does in the run?

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Originally Posted by Icurus
Some amazing facts!

But what does this bit mean?

* Top Fuel engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!

* Including the burnout, the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under
load..

What do they mean by revolutions in that context?

Is it how many rpm's it does in the run?
i don't know either,they run at 8000 after the green drops so it can't be that
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They're running at 8000 revolutions per MINUTE, in a run thats only 5seconds long, that's less than 1000rpm total...
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revolutions per minute. rpm.
so 133 revolutions a second at 8000rpm so from green to finish line about 500 revolutions is correct
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
revolutions per minute. rpm.
so 133 revolutions a second at 8000rpm so from green to finish line about 500 revolutions is correct
thanks i'm off to the corner now to take my shame
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Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro
methane per second; a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same
rate but with 25% less energy being produced.


not sure i belive that. a 747 makes more than 8000bhp
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Tony Schumacher is top dog a the mo!i go to usa to watch it last year went to vegas the year before that indianapolis totally different league over there!they are running 330 odd in the 1000ft that the race now!thats bloody quick!
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
Under full throttle, a dragster engine will consume 11.2 gallons of nitro
methane per second; a fully loaded Boeing 747 consumes jet fuel at the same
rate but with 25% less energy being produced.


not sure i belive that. a 747 makes more than 8000bhp

777 engines make 100,000 bhp each!!!
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Originally Posted by meanxpress
i don't know either,they run at 8000 after the green drops so it can't be that

its how many times the engine would of turned from the start to the finish!8000 rpm per minute the race is over in under 4 seconds!
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exactly so what is it refering to with the 25% more energy
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
exactly so what is it refering to with the 25% more energy
the degree of fuel being transformed to power the jet engine is 25% less efficent then the nitro engine??
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Aye .. Thermal efficency.

How much as a % of what turns the wheels and what is simply turned into heat.

This is used for all Energy transfers ...
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how long to the tyres last for these? and how much is a new one?

that bit about the race at the end fook me that realy puts it into perspective

what does 14:71 mean with the supercharger?
how much it compresses the air?
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Originally Posted by jammerrs

what does 14:71 mean with the supercharger?
how much it compresses the air?
it's the size of and somehow related to the amount of air it's capable of flowing,size of pulleys makes difference to,don't remeber how much overdrive they use but it's a lot

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Interesting read.
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sort of makes a yb seem like a 1.1 fiesta engine
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Originally Posted by jammerrs
what does 14:71 mean with the supercharger?
how much it compresses the air?
when i was in the states my uncle who lives out there said it was the pressure ratio it could supply.

14:71 = 5 bar

its to do with the imperial mesurments and fractions and stuff.

superchargers in the states have always been mesured this way
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Interesting read! Makes everything else seem slow really...

Cool info!! I must go and see some top fuel action one day!
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Interesting read

meanxpress any chance of a full size copy of your profile pic?
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