4year old Mauled By Dog...
03-12-2009, 08:11 PM
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Maybe he shouldn't be keeping them. If he is breeding pitbulls he doesn't seem to have much regard for the law.
03-12-2009, 08:31 PM
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this is all bull shit aint read the full thread but y the hell would a dog lisence help me and my dogs im a 23 year old male i own a english springer spaniel and and a border collie both are soft as shit
now im gunna blow my own thingout the water by saying there soft but when im out shooting with the spaniel and say she goes for a rabbit ive not shot cleanly shell soon go and kill it quick enough to dispatch of it properly and bring it back to me i think she could still act the same to a human but as shes a soppy big eared cute spaniel they dont get reported about in the news
god this stuff winds me up though
now im gunna blow my own thingout the water by saying there soft but when im out shooting with the spaniel and say she goes for a rabbit ive not shot cleanly shell soon go and kill it quick enough to dispatch of it properly and bring it back to me i think she could still act the same to a human but as shes a soppy big eared cute spaniel they dont get reported about in the news
god this stuff winds me up though
03-12-2009, 08:49 PM
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03-12-2009, 09:05 PM
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my old bully and my boy a few years back
again here he is mauling my son to death
once again , as you can see this vicious breed of dog has shown his evil side
obviously all these "dangerous dogs" should be destroyed
FUCKING PRICK
all dogs like to play and sometimes it can get rough
A well trained pet will stop instantly when instructed and knows where to draw the line . i have had 2 other dogs since the pair in the pics above ones a pup now so havent got him where i want him yet but the other i trust with my life 100%
again here he is mauling my son to death
once again , as you can see this vicious breed of dog has shown his evil side
obviously all these "dangerous dogs" should be destroyed
FUCKING PRICK
all dogs like to play and sometimes it can get rough
A well trained pet will stop instantly when instructed and knows where to draw the line . i have had 2 other dogs since the pair in the pics above ones a pup now so havent got him where i want him yet but the other i trust with my life 100%
04-12-2009, 06:20 AM
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04-12-2009, 07:15 AM
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Hope the owner gets found guilty of manslaughter and animal cruelty and gets mauled in prison!
100% his fault for being a CHAV cunt trying to look hard with his abused trophy dog!
Had the dog been properly trained and surpervised then it wouldnt have happened, its as simple as that! s
CHAVs are getting a whole dog breed a bad name! Something needs to be done about the CHAVs not the dogs!
100% his fault for being a CHAV cunt trying to look hard with his abused trophy dog!
Had the dog been properly trained and surpervised then it wouldnt have happened, its as simple as that! s
CHAVs are getting a whole dog breed a bad name! Something needs to be done about the CHAVs not the dogs!
04-12-2009, 04:29 PM
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Hope the owner gets found guilty of manslaughter and animal cruelty and gets mauled in prison!
100% his fault for being a CHAV cunt trying to look hard with his abused trophy dog!
Had the dog been properly trained and surpervised then it wouldnt have happened, its as simple as that! s
CHAVs are getting a whole dog breed a bad name! Something needs to be done about the CHAVs not the dogs!
100% his fault for being a CHAV cunt trying to look hard with his abused trophy dog!
Had the dog been properly trained and surpervised then it wouldnt have happened, its as simple as that! s
CHAVs are getting a whole dog breed a bad name! Something needs to be done about the CHAVs not the dogs!
PUNISH THE DEED NOT THE BREED.
04-12-2009, 05:13 PM
#171
if they let the breed die out then the CHAVs will just move to another type of breed. After all if you beat,torture and starve an animal enough, then it WILL turn aggressive whatever the species.
The only difference between humans and animals is intelligence and being top of food chain. We still have the same hunting instincts deep down albeit masked by intelligence and a social construct that discourages aggression. Other animals dont have that so much as us so we have to teach them.
If anyones got doubt about it being the owner to blame then look at the simple fact that even big cats, lions, tigers etc have been successfully been trained by humans despite them having a physical advantage over us.
Its about time this government sorts the CHAV problem out as it penetrates this society in everywhere from CHAV racers, theft, violence, poor education, poor health, teen preganancy, abuse, drugs, alcohol etc all the way to pets. There isnt a single part of society uncontaminated by thier filth. And its about time something is done before its too late.
The only difference between humans and animals is intelligence and being top of food chain. We still have the same hunting instincts deep down albeit masked by intelligence and a social construct that discourages aggression. Other animals dont have that so much as us so we have to teach them.
If anyones got doubt about it being the owner to blame then look at the simple fact that even big cats, lions, tigers etc have been successfully been trained by humans despite them having a physical advantage over us.
Its about time this government sorts the CHAV problem out as it penetrates this society in everywhere from CHAV racers, theft, violence, poor education, poor health, teen preganancy, abuse, drugs, alcohol etc all the way to pets. There isnt a single part of society uncontaminated by thier filth. And its about time something is done before its too late.
04-12-2009, 06:06 PM
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if they let the breed die out then the CHAVs will just move to another type of breed. After all if you beat,torture and starve an animal enough, then it WILL turn aggressive whatever the species.
The only difference between humans and animals is intelligence and being top of food chain. We still have the same hunting instincts deep down albeit masked by intelligence and a social construct that discourages aggression. Other animals dont have that so much as us so we have to teach them.
If anyones got doubt about it being the owner to blame then look at the simple fact that even big cats, lions, tigers etc have been successfully been trained by humans despite them having a physical advantage over us.
Its about time this government sorts the CHAV problem out as it penetrates this society in everywhere from CHAV racers, theft, violence, poor education, poor health, teen preganancy, abuse, drugs, alcohol etc all the way to pets. There isnt a single part of society uncontaminated by thier filth. And its about time something is done before its too late.
The only difference between humans and animals is intelligence and being top of food chain. We still have the same hunting instincts deep down albeit masked by intelligence and a social construct that discourages aggression. Other animals dont have that so much as us so we have to teach them.
If anyones got doubt about it being the owner to blame then look at the simple fact that even big cats, lions, tigers etc have been successfully been trained by humans despite them having a physical advantage over us.
Its about time this government sorts the CHAV problem out as it penetrates this society in everywhere from CHAV racers, theft, violence, poor education, poor health, teen preganancy, abuse, drugs, alcohol etc all the way to pets. There isnt a single part of society uncontaminated by thier filth. And its about time something is done before its too late.
that is one of the most inteligent thought out replys ive ever read on here regarding a serious subject such as this.i discussed this the other day and my argument was also look at the humans who can work with big cats for all the proof you need that its the owners not the animals.
there isnt enough of a punishment here we need stricter laws regarding all the scummy fucks.i mean you get caught speeding or on the fone a few times and you recieve a harsher punishment than sum junkie thats mugged an oap.
04-12-2009, 06:48 PM
#173
once people ignore the religious stuff and accept we are merely the most intelligent species on the planet, then in reality we are nothing "special" and just animals like all the rest.
Society needs to go look at simple behaviour control to solve the CHAV problem. The airy fairy rehabilitation and teach them an alternative to crime just doesnt work because crime still pays and theres no real punishment.
Think about it, a cow with an electric fence around its field learns to stay within the boundary set out due to pain. Plain and simple. It works with cows and is not considered cruel as they learn from a very small amount of pain which reinforces the notion of staying within the boundarys or there is a negative consequence.
Translate that to humans and when young we learn boundarys in a similar way. Luckily we have language and rarely need pain so can have telling offs, be sent to our rooms, no pudding, get grounded etc. Funnily enough if you dont discipline a child and society lacks a adequate form of punishment they end up like CHAVs.
Its almost directly akin to training a dog, if you neglect it or abuse it or set no boundarys and no punishment for doing wrong, then it becomes unruley, does what it wants and can be aggressive as in this sad case. Translate that to humans and the behaviours are the same!!!
Not rocket science really.
Look back at society say 40 years ago, it was normal for prison to be brutal and grim and often it worked. Yes we lacked rehabilitation but generally criminals hated prison and i imagine with rehabilitation some of them would have stayed out of crime if there was something else to do (you have to accept you can never eliminate crime as some people are mentally dysfunctional in a way that means they commit crime).
But look now, prison only seems brutal to those without a hard criminal background. Those from a criminal background generally dont find it that bad as theres no more brutality than theyd get on the street in the rough nieghbourhood they live in anyway!! so prison itself only deprives freedom so yes that is a punnishment but its obviously not enough. We spend a lot of effort rehabilitating them to be able to choose not to do crime if they so wish. But if you dont punish someone enough so that it "gets through" then they will keep going back to crime as crime pays at present.
The only way to reduce the crime is to increase the punishment to a level where most criminals would rather go honest than risk going to prison because prison is such a nasty/harsh environment. There will still be a few retards who wont change but it will be a lot less than we have now.
The sooner the government realise this the better as otherwise the longer we leave it, the worse it will get and the harsher and more brutal (and socially unacceptable) the punishment will need to be, to have the desired result.
Just look at the brutal prison regimes in the middle east. They do work. Albeit such extreme behaviour is not socially acceptable in our society so we cant go that far.
If we do nothing then eventually it will get to the point where we will need to do things we consider unacceptable to solve the problem or just accept our society is crumbling into anarchy.
And we really havent helped ourselves with the human rights act!!! Its all very well and commendable to look after the "individual" but this has been at the expense of "society".
Quite clearly there needs to be a balance between the individual and the greater good for society as a whole.
Whats the point in making Mr Joe Bloggs happy if as a result we end up wiping out the species??? epic fail
Society needs to go look at simple behaviour control to solve the CHAV problem. The airy fairy rehabilitation and teach them an alternative to crime just doesnt work because crime still pays and theres no real punishment.
Think about it, a cow with an electric fence around its field learns to stay within the boundary set out due to pain. Plain and simple. It works with cows and is not considered cruel as they learn from a very small amount of pain which reinforces the notion of staying within the boundarys or there is a negative consequence.
Translate that to humans and when young we learn boundarys in a similar way. Luckily we have language and rarely need pain so can have telling offs, be sent to our rooms, no pudding, get grounded etc. Funnily enough if you dont discipline a child and society lacks a adequate form of punishment they end up like CHAVs.
Its almost directly akin to training a dog, if you neglect it or abuse it or set no boundarys and no punishment for doing wrong, then it becomes unruley, does what it wants and can be aggressive as in this sad case. Translate that to humans and the behaviours are the same!!!
Not rocket science really.
Look back at society say 40 years ago, it was normal for prison to be brutal and grim and often it worked. Yes we lacked rehabilitation but generally criminals hated prison and i imagine with rehabilitation some of them would have stayed out of crime if there was something else to do (you have to accept you can never eliminate crime as some people are mentally dysfunctional in a way that means they commit crime).
But look now, prison only seems brutal to those without a hard criminal background. Those from a criminal background generally dont find it that bad as theres no more brutality than theyd get on the street in the rough nieghbourhood they live in anyway!! so prison itself only deprives freedom so yes that is a punnishment but its obviously not enough. We spend a lot of effort rehabilitating them to be able to choose not to do crime if they so wish. But if you dont punish someone enough so that it "gets through" then they will keep going back to crime as crime pays at present.
The only way to reduce the crime is to increase the punishment to a level where most criminals would rather go honest than risk going to prison because prison is such a nasty/harsh environment. There will still be a few retards who wont change but it will be a lot less than we have now.
The sooner the government realise this the better as otherwise the longer we leave it, the worse it will get and the harsher and more brutal (and socially unacceptable) the punishment will need to be, to have the desired result.
Just look at the brutal prison regimes in the middle east. They do work. Albeit such extreme behaviour is not socially acceptable in our society so we cant go that far.
If we do nothing then eventually it will get to the point where we will need to do things we consider unacceptable to solve the problem or just accept our society is crumbling into anarchy.
And we really havent helped ourselves with the human rights act!!! Its all very well and commendable to look after the "individual" but this has been at the expense of "society".
Quite clearly there needs to be a balance between the individual and the greater good for society as a whole.
Whats the point in making Mr Joe Bloggs happy if as a result we end up wiping out the species??? epic fail
Last edited by Psycho Warren; 04-12-2009 at 06:51 PM.
04-12-2009, 09:38 PM
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PassionFord Post Whore!!
once people ignore the religious stuff and accept we are merely the most intelligent species on the planet, then in reality we are nothing "special" and just animals like all the rest.
Society needs to go look at simple behaviour control to solve the CHAV problem. The airy fairy rehabilitation and teach them an alternative to crime just doesnt work because crime still pays and theres no real punishment.
Think about it, a cow with an electric fence around its field learns to stay within the boundary set out due to pain. Plain and simple. It works with cows and is not considered cruel as they learn from a very small amount of pain which reinforces the notion of staying within the boundarys or there is a negative consequence.
Translate that to humans and when young we learn boundarys in a similar way. Luckily we have language and rarely need pain so can have telling offs, be sent to our rooms, no pudding, get grounded etc. Funnily enough if you dont discipline a child and society lacks a adequate form of punishment they end up like CHAVs.
Its almost directly akin to training a dog, if you neglect it or abuse it or set no boundarys and no punishment for doing wrong, then it becomes unruley, does what it wants and can be aggressive as in this sad case. Translate that to humans and the behaviours are the same!!!
Not rocket science really.
Look back at society say 40 years ago, it was normal for prison to be brutal and grim and often it worked. Yes we lacked rehabilitation but generally criminals hated prison and i imagine with rehabilitation some of them would have stayed out of crime if there was something else to do (you have to accept you can never eliminate crime as some people are mentally dysfunctional in a way that means they commit crime).
But look now, prison only seems brutal to those without a hard criminal background. Those from a criminal background generally dont find it that bad as theres no more brutality than theyd get on the street in the rough nieghbourhood they live in anyway!! so prison itself only deprives freedom so yes that is a punnishment but its obviously not enough. We spend a lot of effort rehabilitating them to be able to choose not to do crime if they so wish. But if you dont punish someone enough so that it "gets through" then they will keep going back to crime as crime pays at present.
The only way to reduce the crime is to increase the punishment to a level where most criminals would rather go honest than risk going to prison because prison is such a nasty/harsh environment. There will still be a few retards who wont change but it will be a lot less than we have now.
The sooner the government realise this the better as otherwise the longer we leave it, the worse it will get and the harsher and more brutal (and socially unacceptable) the punishment will need to be, to have the desired result.
Just look at the brutal prison regimes in the middle east. They do work. Albeit such extreme behaviour is not socially acceptable in our society so we cant go that far.
If we do nothing then eventually it will get to the point where we will need to do things we consider unacceptable to solve the problem or just accept our society is crumbling into anarchy.
And we really havent helped ourselves with the human rights act!!! Its all very well and commendable to look after the "individual" but this has been at the expense of "society".
Quite clearly there needs to be a balance between the individual and the greater good for society as a whole.
Whats the point in making Mr Joe Bloggs happy if as a result we end up wiping out the species??? epic fail
Society needs to go look at simple behaviour control to solve the CHAV problem. The airy fairy rehabilitation and teach them an alternative to crime just doesnt work because crime still pays and theres no real punishment.
Think about it, a cow with an electric fence around its field learns to stay within the boundary set out due to pain. Plain and simple. It works with cows and is not considered cruel as they learn from a very small amount of pain which reinforces the notion of staying within the boundarys or there is a negative consequence.
Translate that to humans and when young we learn boundarys in a similar way. Luckily we have language and rarely need pain so can have telling offs, be sent to our rooms, no pudding, get grounded etc. Funnily enough if you dont discipline a child and society lacks a adequate form of punishment they end up like CHAVs.
Its almost directly akin to training a dog, if you neglect it or abuse it or set no boundarys and no punishment for doing wrong, then it becomes unruley, does what it wants and can be aggressive as in this sad case. Translate that to humans and the behaviours are the same!!!
Not rocket science really.
Look back at society say 40 years ago, it was normal for prison to be brutal and grim and often it worked. Yes we lacked rehabilitation but generally criminals hated prison and i imagine with rehabilitation some of them would have stayed out of crime if there was something else to do (you have to accept you can never eliminate crime as some people are mentally dysfunctional in a way that means they commit crime).
But look now, prison only seems brutal to those without a hard criminal background. Those from a criminal background generally dont find it that bad as theres no more brutality than theyd get on the street in the rough nieghbourhood they live in anyway!! so prison itself only deprives freedom so yes that is a punnishment but its obviously not enough. We spend a lot of effort rehabilitating them to be able to choose not to do crime if they so wish. But if you dont punish someone enough so that it "gets through" then they will keep going back to crime as crime pays at present.
The only way to reduce the crime is to increase the punishment to a level where most criminals would rather go honest than risk going to prison because prison is such a nasty/harsh environment. There will still be a few retards who wont change but it will be a lot less than we have now.
The sooner the government realise this the better as otherwise the longer we leave it, the worse it will get and the harsher and more brutal (and socially unacceptable) the punishment will need to be, to have the desired result.
Just look at the brutal prison regimes in the middle east. They do work. Albeit such extreme behaviour is not socially acceptable in our society so we cant go that far.
If we do nothing then eventually it will get to the point where we will need to do things we consider unacceptable to solve the problem or just accept our society is crumbling into anarchy.
And we really havent helped ourselves with the human rights act!!! Its all very well and commendable to look after the "individual" but this has been at the expense of "society".
Quite clearly there needs to be a balance between the individual and the greater good for society as a whole.
Whats the point in making Mr Joe Bloggs happy if as a result we end up wiping out the species??? epic fail
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