wirralphil

Yet another death of a small child due to a dog.

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/...0252-25288226/

RIP

It also turns out the house was under investigation by police in Feb of this year.

Here's hoping it never happens again.

saph4be

NO dog should be left unsupervised with a child ever it is so sad too

R I P little fella

LHD220Turbo

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and it always is the same type of breed of dog. I'm not taring all bull-terrier/ mastiff with the same brush, but these breeds have natural agression and the character ability to snap in an instant

RIP poor lad

Roscco

Saw this on the news yesterday, Shame for the kid involved.

Lovin' the media spins on the 'pitbull type' breed. 99.9% of these dogs in the hands of responsible owners who understand the breed NEVER cause any bother.

Never heard so much shite in all my life, that'll be why the UKKC and the AMKC nickname them the nanny dog ? They turn nasty when people kick fuck out of them or torment them everyday of thier sorry life.
NO natural tendency at all.
How many references do you want ????

Sorry if you think i'm out of order, but really boils my piss when people make uneducated statements like that, thats how witch hunts begin.

Anybody with a Staff that stays in the area would do well to keep it out of site for the time being..... I can see an 'amnesty' coming

Neil@FastFord

It's sad, but generally its the owners to blame for one thing or another.

It wouldn't matter if the Queen lost an ear in a dog attack, i would never give mine up, or allow her to be taken.

I personally know quite a selection of what could be classed as fighting dogs, and honestly, thier behaviour and temperament is much better than that of say, a jack russel.

You HAVE to work at making a good dog for years, not just half arsed while they are cute to make them sit for a treat etc.

JLStretton

bull-terrier or mastiff-type animal, well that clears it up, one is a small dog the other a big one

Rick Astley

Absolutely right, all bull terrier breeds should be banned!!! This video shows just how terrifying and intimidating they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHMCcs2yCI4

**caz**

heard about this...extremely sad situation

unfortunately people forget that even these dogs who live in our houses as a family member....are still animals....and still have their animal instincts about them ....

r.i.p

x

wirralphil

I agree there.

Shame responsible owners of these dogs are going to be tarred with the same brush.

Fiddy

Heard this on the radio in the car yesterday, tbh, i was expecting the dog to belong to one of the little 'gangsters' from norris green.


Poor little man


R.I.P

saph4be

the trouble is you here about these attacks as these dogs are so strong and powerfull were as a shitsu attacks someone it don't do alot off damage for example my mate has a 12 stone rottie and would kill me were as my dog a patterdale terrier would not bother me too much if you see what i am trying to say

wirralphil

Like the woman who had her nose bitten off by a shit-su type of dog while the dog was laying next to her in bed asleep, the labrador who bitten that french ladys face.

I do think the RSPCA should set up some sort of Licence for ALL breeds of dogs.

Neil@FastFord

True, which is why training is totally vital.

I constantly work with my girl.

I have been winding her up like mad, flighting her, pulling her face, getting in her face, taking her bones etc etc ect....why?

Because i have 3 nephews under 5 and its the sorta thing they do.

I fight really rough with her and the second I deem her to be getting too excited i click my fingers and she drops straight into line and calms.

I think i have cracked it, will i relax? Nope.

Been getting the Mrs and my mum to do similar and other training with her so she knows that she is second to all humans, not just me.

I'll keep workin on it and trying new things with her. Far too many people let thier dogs get away with things.

If people don't understand the dogs and the responsibility they shouldn't have them.

dojj

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you should be over 25 and apply to have a license to own any dog, with differences in breeds adding to the type of license you have

if the dog attacks someone, then the owner shoudl be insured and have to face the consequences if thir animal damages peole or property

just look at how that horse trashed ian's micra the other week and the attitude of the owner?

and they shoudl stop dogs being allowed out unleashed and unmuzzled, simple to take precautions when you ar out on the street where attacks can happen

feel sorry for teh little lad

LHD220Turbo

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of course its how they are raised, the same with any dog - maybe i should have worded it differently.

but i would never dream of having this type of breed of dog around children.

its a fact that all dogs have what is called "prey drive". its a natural instinct but in these types of breeds its extreamly high. Its an instinct and can be agressive which is why i would never trust these type of dogs, no matter how well trained

longdog

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I've bin saying this to a few friends, all who have dogs and thay think the same.
To meny people have them who dont have a clue and when something happens the dogs get the blame.

mynew2

iTrader: (1)

Have they not been talking about having licence's for dogs for a little while now, but even if they did who is going to inforce as i cant see the police doing it as they dont really do a good job with dogs at the mo.

i agree with the unleashed side of the being out as neither of my two dogs go out of the lead, but the muzzle is a bit harsh as when i walk mine if we are going past people they are pulled back on a short lead so there is no chance of them jumping up at peopel, but i also think is comes down the the parents of kids when they are out with the dogs. How many times do you see kids running up to the back of the dogs and just stroking them.

wirralphil

Their used to be a licence for dogs years back. Sort of went away.

I'm exactley the same when walking our dog, she stands next to me with a firm hold. Only time she is let off is when we enter our close as she's happy to get in. She has no interest in kids or other dogs.

RC4

R.I.P to the little lad,but i got mad at some of the comments "american bulldog" isnt really a breed?,american bulldogs are a ticking bomb?..........are these people mental?
these people have not got a clue!!!
if the papers/news reported on every dog attack not only terriers,pits,rotties there would be no other news on! labrador,poodle,jack russell attacks are never viewed by the media

wirralphil

Turns out the dog was an illegal breed.

m3cosworth

bottom line is in my opion after owning various types of so called dangerous dogs!
it is the owners who are to blame.
the wrong dog in the wrongs hands!
most of these attacks happen to right bloody chavs or gangster wannabe who are are very insecure themselves. dogs pick up on this.
they are very dangerous if they are trained incorrectly or not socialsied properly.
owners should be vetted not dogs!!!!

OldDan

I imagine it will be a Pit Bull as there are loads in Liverpool.

However, RSPCA are now AGAINST bread specific legislation/ DDA. The sooner this thing goes the better as there are innocent pit bulls being killed too often.

It is ALL down the the owner.

wirralphil

Fully agree.

gaz s1

Makes me laugh when bull breeds get the blame,All dogs are animals and can be dangerous, its how you bring them up.

I trust my staffi 100% with my kids and when i walk her off the lead in the park its always the runty shitty little things that come running up to her trying to bite her ankles and when she bowls them over playing the owners get all arsy about it, soon to be put right on its there ankle biter that come running up to my dog!!!!

AlexF

How would licences help?

We had licences for dgos many years ago - we have licences for many other things that unfortunatly kill people...

Alex

Neil@FastFord

Just make people accountable hopefully.

Oranoco

Don't blame the dogs, blame the fucktard owners! RIP for the kiddie, very sad

They should bring back the dog lisence

TOMMY_RS

i agree with you as well

r.i.p

Ad4m RST

You just need to own a dog full stop, huge tinge of ignorance on what your saying...your 1st post majorly. I've got a Bullmastiff and unless he had a VERY strong reason to react he's the calmest and soppiest dog about, but then trust him with my life. You're just going with trendy terms to feign knowledge.

There's chavvy pricks who rag around Cossie's and whack up premiums, ruin the reputation of the rest, should they ban any potentially lairy cars...of course fucking not.

LHD220Turbo

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??? i've grown up with dogs all my life, i think its ignorant of you to think i know nothing, you dont know me! now thats ignorance!!!!!

how to you know i'm going with "trendy terms" do you think the term "prey drive" i just picked out of thin air?

Great analogy by the way

Nash

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Blaming the Police for the idiotic parents is a bit rich imo.

StephenC

Dogs can be dangerous animals, but guess what so are humans! Its a tragedy that this child was killed in such a way. Were going to end up imposing more rules on four legged animals than we do people who look after our children!! As already said the papers love jumping on stuff like this. There is no solution and I doubt there ever will be. Dogs will continue to be mistret and developed in to fierce animals whether they need a license or not. The dog is born a blank canvas, its up to us to paint the picture!

Ad4m RST

Obviously never learnt much, ignorance is making sweeping statements especially when the person had prior knowledge!

Yous use prey drive as a detriment to all dogs of a certain breed, so applying a trendy term, you obviously don't have any idea what it means to own/raise that kind of dog. And if you do you must just be posting for some attention...

Yeah I thought the analogy was great, going off your contribution to this thread I thought I'd better keep it close to home since you're swept up in hype quite easily.

LHD220Turbo

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very true

its clear the media have got a vendetta for these breeds

Benni

Very sad time for the little boy and I feel very sorry for him, I hope he's in a better place. I don't blame the dog, personally, I blame the owner. I bet you if someone who was well into their dogs had this particular dog from a puppy he could have been a lovely dog.

My friend has two Pitbulls and both were taken from him by the Police and returned around 3 months later, when he was certified as being safe and sound. They're both big softies.

Once again - RIP. Benni.

ben_frst

dog are only good for turning dog food into dog sh*t

i have had menny growing and my mums about to get another, why she loves them so much is beyond me ive not always felt this way buts there so much responsablity feed, water, walk, fook that just get a computer and a cyber dog lol

i blame the owner 90% of staff owners rough play with there dog i met a staffy that has never fort for a toy or rough played in its life and its owner makes an issue of this and the dog is so different more like a springer spanual/border collie sort of temprement chases balls brings them back and drops it not fighting you for it like most do it also playes with other dog not in a fighty way either

fuzzy

dogs fault or owner ? it makes no difference to the result. another child is dead.
im sure people kick cats and other types of dog but you dont hear about them mauling anyone.
its the owners that are so blinkered as to totally deny any fault lies with those type of dogs that confuse me. i hope they dont have kids themselves.
although blame has to lie with the owners for allowing such dogs into the homes of children in the first place.
im sure just like people there are bad ones from birth.

Benni

It's because of their size. I can assure you now if my cat, Blacky, was the size of a Pitbull, I'd be well dead. She's vicious, very vicious. However, at worst I have a hand full of cuts. Loads and loads of small dogs are snappy and vicious, but again at worst you have a bit of blood from your leg or something.

Benni.