right then, currently we all get our internet down a phoneline yes?
well, most of us do anyway

but what got me thinking was my sky box, if it can download a hd film to be shown on my telly AND record another HD film AT THE SAME TIME, it's got to be capable of downloading a shit lot of stuff for just your common chap with a computer in the living room yes?

so why don't they send the internet over the airwaves? you can do it with an iphone and stuff, so why are we stuck in the wired world and not gone wireless?

you can even get batteries that are charged wirelessly now so why the big hold up?

or is it because bt want to charge us for digging up the road?

 

i thought sky internet was through the dish

 

no sky internet is though your phone line.

 

I get my internet through cablevision. I can also get internet wirelessly here in Canada at 21mbps.

Internet over phone lines (adsl and dialup) is the slowest way here in Canada. So yes, wireless is easily done but the infrastructure isn't there globally.

 

What pacwest said about infrastructure, plus rolling it out on the scale your on about would be massive + teething problems + updating everybodies hardware + technology thats not quite there yet (range, reliability etc etc) = hassle + cost.

fibre optic is the way forward for now, even system busses will go that way in the not too distant future.

 

sky use bt lines. the wireless part is coming i work for bt in london north area and we have bt openzone which is free to use so will not be long now plus with the new cab boxs we are putting in there is no need for the exchanges it will all be done from the cab

 

fibre is being done as we speak by the end of 2012 they reckon we will have 100 meg

 

Fibre is the way forward, IMO we should be aiming at 1Gbit by 2015 to the home. Theres no reason this cant be started now and the tech is out there.

Back this up with wimax/other across towns and linking rural areas in.

 

Internet over satalie to your home is nothing new. Think a company called europeonline offer it, albeit a shitty version.
http://www.europeonline.com/

The problem is while you can get fairly impressive Download speeds, the Upload is shite.

When you look at the speed they quote and think, i get better, just remember that you have line contention to deal with. What they say IS what you get.

More geared towards those who can't get broadband.

Not for me though, Fook that carry on.

 

how do these dongle things work? my sister who has no broadband or cable/sky tv buys a Ł15 top up per month and her daughter uses it for internet connection on her lap top. where does the signal come from?

 

Dojj I've heard Sky will be implementing this, don't know when though. The next thing from Sky is going to be 3D, I've had a sneak preview of this and it's pretty cool - TV sets are gonna cost a bit though.

 

Cost is why not. They'd rather keep charging us for 'normal' phoneline internet for as long as possible. Remember, they're going to have to update everything if they changed to wireless, which wont be cheap, and would possibly mean downtime for customers.

 

I think you're referring to WiMAX. i.e. using wireless as the medium for the 'last mile' instead of someone digging your path up and making a poor job of laying a cable from your local exhange (POP) into your house.

When ISP Pipex was up for sale a couple of years ago, Sky were sniffing around it as Pipex had made big investments in WiMAX. This deal didn't go through and I'm not sure what Sky are up to in this space any more.

A general description of it is here -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WiMAX

cheers
Billy

 

The plans I heard for Sky wireless were that it uses the same dish but with a wireless sender on th LNB which transmits pictures to your TV and acts as a gateway for internet access.

 

internet using satelite has been around for years, i considered it ages ago whe we were out in the middle of no where but it was quite pricy

 

Yup Satellite Internet is expensive.

I setup a 512k circuit last year in a remote farm thats miles from anywhere - Ł9k install and Ł485/month. Ouch!

 

Dongles have a sim card in them so they work just like internet on mobile phones.

 

i use a moblie dongle and it is faster then my vigin was but you do need a good area

 

 

i have a box in my house with three plugs one for phone,tv and 24 mbits broadband ,going through the phone line is becoming obsolete here insweden,when i was using internet /broadband through te phone line(3 years ago) i had major problems as i was supposedly on 8m/bit and was getting 1 out on .www.tptest.com after investigating this the phone company said my phone filters where blocked/old/crap and tried to charge me for changing them hence i know get around 22 m/bit out of 24 through the cable box in my house 100m/b is available now @ around 35 quid a month

 

http://tptest.sourceforge.net/
thats the address to test your speed

 

find this is a better test , better front end anyway for the average user


http://www.speedtest.net/

rob v
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Interesting Dojj, Swindon will be the first town in the UK to provide free wireless internet to all its residents according the the metro the other day

 

not sure if it is true or not, but I heard that they are waiting for TV's to all go digital as that will free up airwave space..?

 

I think in a few years every house will have the net and all the tv channels will be on it.

 

free wireless internet? how will that work?

 

The uk is way behind in terms of bandwitdth to the home

Fibre is the future but it's going to take time to upgrade

Im not convinced by wifi over large space's

Even in the office environment most are still installing cat6 and fibre with a few AP's for roaming visitors..........

 

apparently analogue TV waves cause a hell of a lot of interferance. Not sure about with wireless internet though.

 

agreed mate. I have a friend in sweden, He has something like a 50mb line (and ACTUAL 50mb line, not a uk like, which is alot lower than they state) and thats kind of the 'norm' there.