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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by tosh
I would leave it, as it is nicely positioned to be able to plug a bar heater into to keep the bathroom nice and worm in the winter

only joking that would seriously worry me, if that is what the previous owners were willing to do what the hell is the rest of the electrics like, for piece of mind I would get the rest of the electrics tested,
A small price to pay for safety and piece of mind.
to be honest, the rest of the electrics and general condition was shocking 9no pun intended) but most of it has been sorted now.

i do have to admit, if i'd know there was power in the bathroom there would be heated towel rails and one of those mirrors that heats itself to prevent condensation!

still.. too late now!
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Markb_s1
thanks for the advice... already noticed the lack of earth (believe it or not).
no idea where to bond it to though!
wouldn't be surprised if when the face plate does come off there's no earth in there anyway! the conductor is probably wrapped in cotton old school stylee.
They can be attached to any earth from any circuit, however, a local circuit that is used in the bathroom would be the right way!

If there isn't mate just bond between all pipes for now as the incoming water and gas (should??) be earthed. It will at least give you a little piece of mind.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by tosh
only joking that would seriously worry me, if that is what the previous owners were willing to do what the hell is the rest of the electrics like, for piece of mind I would get the rest of the electrics tested,
A small price to pay for safety and piece of mind.
This exactly what I was thinking fella get a qualified sparky in to sort it and give rest of the installation a once over
Have been called so many times to little jobs like this only for effing great ballsups to be uncovered

Don't want to worry you bud but get a pro in and forget screwfix etc u can't b too carefull with 'leccy
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:18 PM
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Ahh! too slow with my post as it looks like the installation was 'shocking' before and u sorted it then found this

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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles
sorry well when you get the face of the socket look witch way the wires go if they go up then they'll go into metal sheeving just behind the plaster against the inside brick work if you get what i mean, then into the ceiling, if they go down they'll go into the floor, being behind the bath though cuttin a hole out wouldn't be too much of a problem to get to the wires, i'll hazard a guess being victorian the ceilings will be lath and plaster making the cutting a hole out useless really cos it'll be a nightmare .

hope i'v atleast helped slightly to get you head round it i can help tmoz but gotta go partyin now so have to leave the world of passionford
thanks mate. pretty sure the ceiling is lathe and plaster due to the problems i had fitting the new light and also pretty sure that the cables will be going into the floor.

enjoy the party. don't do anything i wouldn't do!
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Cragrat
This exactly what I was thinking fella get a qualified sparky in to sort it and give rest of the installation a once over
Have been called so many times to little jobs like this only for effing great ballsups to be uncovered

Don't want to worry you bud but get a pro in and forget screwfix etc u can't b too carefull with 'leccy
believe it or not the electrics have been tested but i guess the fact that this outlet was hidden was missed.. dunno, i'm no expert.

funnily enough i don't mind dealing with electrics if i start from scratch as i know what i'm dealing with. i still get it checked for the sake of my own sanity but i do hate dealing with unknowns - and this is certainly one of those!

i think i'd be reasonably content if the live cables were sealed up and below the floor.
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Cragrat
Ahh! too slow with my post as it looks like the installation was 'shocking'
not yet.. .maybe tomorrow!
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Red16
Slightly off topic but get some earth bonding on those pipes too, as they dont appear to have any at the moment
why? supplementary bonding has been relaxed in 17th ed regs
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
plug something into the socket, sensible like a radio or the like
turn it on
go to the fuse panel and start to turn the circuits off
when you have found the right one, make sure it's kept off
then do what has been suggested above and use a blanking plate and a waterproof fitting for out door use and fit it in place of the existing plug

if it were me though, i'd be making sure that the wiring to the plug was chansed etc as i think the likelyhood is that it's going to be spurred off another socket rather than on the main ring
prob the most sensible thing ive seen you write on here
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Old Oct 31, 2009 | 11:23 PM
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Originally Posted by cozzy940
why? supplementary bonding has been relaxed in 17th ed regs

keep up
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by danneth
keep up
Lol yeah don't generally need to fuck about bonding every pipe in sight as long as it's all coverd by a 30ma rcd, and the main gas/water has been done. Oh and ideally you really want those cables jointed under the floor, i'll be surprised if the backbox itself hasn't gone rusty and with all the condensation about under the bath/possible leaks that could also cause nuisance tripping problems....

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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Burnzybubbles
or that would do tbh but i'd deffo go round the blanking plate with some silicone just to make water tight, this would be the least hassle way of doing it but i'd always reckon to have it completely removed just depends on how much time you have to get it sorted.
I agree, remove it then fill it. If you have the slightest doubt with electrics get a reputable and if possible recommended electrician to do the work for you. Years ago i caught a live wire with the tip of a screwdriver and the resulting bang and jolt made me think i had been shot lol.
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Old Nov 1, 2009 | 01:21 AM
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fuck me, looks like bodge it and run away wired your gaff up !! good luck with that !!
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