NMS Gunship Live Map!!!!!!!! IS FANTASTIC...
03-11-2009, 12:32 PM
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If Karl is as good as you say he is then his off the shelf chip for a given specification should be fairly spot on. Without re writing the chip the only other variables you have that can be adjusted to change it are the fuel pressure to effectivly scale the fuel map and the boost control.
It takes 30 seconds to either check the FPR has not been tampered with or re adjust the static pressure to your specification. Then check the amal valve is as your specification.
Take car for drive and check fuelling. You can tell pretty quickly if the FPR is set right just by the idle AFR. Check all fuelling and general drive.
If all ok, job done.
Now how much is a gunship chip? £150?
How much is his labour rate? £50 ph?
So that is 5 hours to fit a chip and check the fuelling. Even if you checked all the sensor resistances and the fuel pump voltage it would only add 10 mins max to the job.
Have any of you actually performed these jobs before to have actual experience of how long they take???
It takes 30 seconds to either check the FPR has not been tampered with or re adjust the static pressure to your specification. Then check the amal valve is as your specification.
Take car for drive and check fuelling. You can tell pretty quickly if the FPR is set right just by the idle AFR. Check all fuelling and general drive.
If all ok, job done.
Now how much is a gunship chip? £150?
How much is his labour rate? £50 ph?
So that is 5 hours to fit a chip and check the fuelling. Even if you checked all the sensor resistances and the fuel pump voltage it would only add 10 mins max to the job.
Have any of you actually performed these jobs before to have actual experience of how long they take???
You are obviously the oracle when it comes to tuning cars, forward on your company details so we can all come and have our cars mapped and setup by you for £100 a pop!
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03-11-2009, 02:49 PM
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don,t see you on here much now...
They,re some amazing figures there Mike, bet that drove superbly well as a road car....
03-11-2009, 03:59 PM
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Well i count myself honoured then Mike....
Good times those Mike, just shows SENSIBLE power and good setups can produce.....
Pete,
I bet he looked like Nick Hayward from Haircut 100..
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03-11-2009, 05:59 PM
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That,s exactly how mine is Mike, that,s why i said in my first post how it caught me out...
Karl & Ollie had warned me BUT you always need to find it out yourself... i just love how the torque slams in though, makes the conversion imo...Oi, show some respect for your elders you....
03-11-2009, 06:27 PM
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03-11-2009, 07:52 PM
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[quote=Alg1k;4492657][quote=Garage19;4492575]If Karl is as good as you say
Yes he is as good as I make out .Karl will take the car out and run the car up in ALL the gears as even a generic off the shelf chip will have certain areas within the map that will need optimising to get the map absolutly spot on as every single engine has lead a very different life . As said you pay peanuts you get what you get. I for one would not use say a place called garage 19 that sounds like it's inbetween council garages 18-20 where as I would use Karl NMS as they have been praised soany times on here the fact that they may be a little dearer which I'm sure there not is of little consiquence when I know the job will be done correctly and my pride and joy won't be waiting for the RAC. I DO know how long it takes to do these checks when done right I was doing it when you were shitting green.
Thats lucky as there is no place called Garage19
Its just a user name.
If you are optimising areas of a chip whilst viewing live ecu data then that is live mapping. Not an off the shelf chip.
So which is the NMS gunship conversion? None of you seem to know what you are paying for.
When i was "shitting green" as you put it there were not any efi cars so i can't see how you can say you were checking their sensors and if you do all this yourself why are you paying someone else to do it again??
Yes he is as good as I make out .Karl will take the car out and run the car up in ALL the gears as even a generic off the shelf chip will have certain areas within the map that will need optimising to get the map absolutly spot on as every single engine has lead a very different life . As said you pay peanuts you get what you get. I for one would not use say a place called garage 19 that sounds like it's inbetween council garages 18-20 where as I would use Karl NMS as they have been praised soany times on here the fact that they may be a little dearer which I'm sure there not is of little consiquence when I know the job will be done correctly and my pride and joy won't be waiting for the RAC. I DO know how long it takes to do these checks when done right I was doing it when you were shitting green.
Its just a user name.If you are optimising areas of a chip whilst viewing live ecu data then that is live mapping. Not an off the shelf chip.
So which is the NMS gunship conversion? None of you seem to know what you are paying for.
When i was "shitting green" as you put it there were not any efi cars so i can't see how you can say you were checking their sensors and if you do all this yourself why are you paying someone else to do it again??
03-11-2009, 08:07 PM
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Been a while sinse we've had a good 'Karl isn't as good as everyone makes out' thread.
Or a...
'NMS are shit' thread....
Or a...
'X Tuner (usually NMS) did something to my car and I am happy, but everyone else needs to have their say about it' Thread.
Come to think of it, I'm not actually aware of any 'NMS are actually shit threads' just a load of people who prefer using someone else who tells them something else different to what someone else said, so it must be right.
Its all crystal then isn't it.
No ones right, a man paid for a service, which was provided and the man is happy.
Or a...
'NMS are shit' thread....
Or a...
'X Tuner (usually NMS) did something to my car and I am happy, but everyone else needs to have their say about it' Thread.
Come to think of it, I'm not actually aware of any 'NMS are actually shit threads' just a load of people who prefer using someone else who tells them something else different to what someone else said, so it must be right.
Its all crystal then isn't it.
No ones right, a man paid for a service, which was provided and the man is happy.
03-11-2009, 10:14 PM
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Jake... AHMEN to that, my money my choice AND i,m over the moon with the car, seems like this Garage 19 fella has BEEF with NMS imo, if so, then take it up with Karl and not my thread fella...
03-12-2009, 05:12 PM
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my 3dr was live mapped by carl & olli at nms and im well happy with how it performs t4 on grays running flatout ............''woop woop''
its a awsome
i may go back for a wrc 8 injector setup later part of next year
its a awsome
i may go back for a wrc 8 injector setup later part of next year
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03-12-2009, 07:36 PM
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Pete, Pictures mate?
Why does this bother you?
If Karl is as good as you say he is then his off the shelf chip for a given specification should be fairly spot on. Without re writing the chip the only other variables you have that can be adjusted to change it are the fuel pressure to effectivly scale the fuel map and the boost control.
It takes 30 seconds to either check the FPR has not been tampered with or re adjust the static pressure to your specification. Then check the amal valve is as your specification.
Take car for drive and check fuelling. You can tell pretty quickly if the FPR is set right just by the idle AFR. Check all fuelling and general drive.
If all ok, job done.
Now how much is a gunship chip? £150?
How much is his labour rate? £50 ph?
So that is 5 hours to fit a chip and check the fuelling. Even if you checked all the sensor resistances and the fuel pump voltage it would only add 10 mins max to the job.
Have any of you actually performed these jobs before to have actual experience of how long they take???
It takes 30 seconds to either check the FPR has not been tampered with or re adjust the static pressure to your specification. Then check the amal valve is as your specification.
Take car for drive and check fuelling. You can tell pretty quickly if the FPR is set right just by the idle AFR. Check all fuelling and general drive.
If all ok, job done.
Now how much is a gunship chip? £150?
How much is his labour rate? £50 ph?
So that is 5 hours to fit a chip and check the fuelling. Even if you checked all the sensor resistances and the fuel pump voltage it would only add 10 mins max to the job.
Have any of you actually performed these jobs before to have actual experience of how long they take???
Why does this bother you?
16-12-2009, 05:33 PM
#103
hi pete
everything sound mate yourself ? defo getting my 3dr mapped by karl
once i get a few quid together it's hard to save it with kids house family they all come first
got the 5bar to go on 850cc to go on thats it he can release the power again with a live mapp
marco
16-12-2009, 05:42 PM
#104
Chasing Radders
Been a while sinse we've had a good 'Karl isn't as good as everyone makes out' thread.
Or a...
'NMS are shit' thread....
Or a...
'X Tuner (usually NMS) did something to my car and I am happy, but everyone else needs to have their say about it' Thread.
Come to think of it, I'm not actually aware of any 'NMS are actually shit threads' just a load of people who prefer using someone else who tells them something else different to what someone else said, so it must be right.
Its all crystal then isn't it.
No ones right, a man paid for a service, which was provided and the man is happy.
Or a...
'NMS are shit' thread....
Or a...
'X Tuner (usually NMS) did something to my car and I am happy, but everyone else needs to have their say about it' Thread.
Come to think of it, I'm not actually aware of any 'NMS are actually shit threads' just a load of people who prefer using someone else who tells them something else different to what someone else said, so it must be right.
Its all crystal then isn't it.
No ones right, a man paid for a service, which was provided and the man is happy.
SO SO right Jake......
Like you say, been a while since the NMS haters showed there head.............
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