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Old 21-10-2009 | 01:34 PM
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i am thinking about converting my escos to rwd. Has anybody drove, own or been out in a rwd escos? Oppinions please good or bad.
Old 21-10-2009 | 01:40 PM
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never driven, been out in or owned a RWD Escos, but if I were to be the owner of a Escos now I would 100% have to RWD it lol
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a mate of mine has a RWD one - its an animal! its how they should have been built! Ours will go down that route one day.
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iv owned 3 rwd and its a transformation!!!wouldnt have one any other way..iv also done a few conversions for people..check my race car in this months pf mag..cheers danny
Old 21-10-2009 | 02:21 PM
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iv owned 3 rwd and its a transformation!!!wouldnt have one any other way..iv also done a few conversions for people..check my race car in this months pf mag..cheers danny
Do they feel much quicker?
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Awesome sideways fun, but not that quick on track once the power starts to get high enough that you have to feather the throttle out of the corners .
Old 21-10-2009 | 04:24 PM
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It'd save me a lot of money in transmission hhmmmmm decisions.

then there is new crossmember, sump, d/shafts and stuff
Old 21-10-2009 | 04:27 PM
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i'd rather poke my eyes with cocktail sticks than drive a 2wd escort cos

maybe if someone took me out in one i would see it different but i know how my 2wd cossies went and they were shit in the damp wet and slippy conditions and my escort is none of that

cheeRS.
Old 21-10-2009 | 04:30 PM
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drive a 2WD sapph m8. thats probably the best way to test it as u will use most of the parts from one. ive been in one. and i thought it was good definatly looks cool with the back wheels smoking up but it was very tail happy. depends on how u drive.
my driving style prefers 4wd as i like to go really quick down B roads etc. but if ur into greasy roundabouts and donuts. DO IT!
Old 21-10-2009 | 04:46 PM
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RWD is only way to drive
Old 21-10-2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
RWD is only way to drive
...really slowly .
Old 21-10-2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by m4tt274
drive a 2WD sapph m8. thats probably the best way to test it as u will use most of the parts from one. ive been in one. and i thought it was good definatly looks cool with the back wheels smoking up but it was very tail happy. depends on how u drive.
my driving style prefers 4wd as i like to go really quick down B roads etc. but if ur into greasy roundabouts and donuts. DO IT!

surely if your into driving fast and safe around roundabouts you get a 4wd ??? i can see it now m-sport going 2wd with the wrc cars cos it looks good smoking up the rears and laying 9 grand out on the rev counter.

no 2wd cossie looks better showboating than a 4wd one driven properly.

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/1760/

and again a year later

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...+snijers&hl=en#
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
...really slowly .
not at all = shitting your brick looking through the passenger window more like

RWD is fun and thats why I love it.

I very much doubt you can fishtail a good few hundred yards down the road in a 4x4 making all the pedestrians run for cover I loved it
Old 21-10-2009 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
...really slowly .
dont ever remember a time when your 2wd was "really slowly"....lol

what did you always say, 185 per tank.....and not mpg
Old 21-10-2009 | 05:57 PM
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I have built 3 now and love them ,

They arnt as snappy as a 2wd saff due to shorter wheelbase , infact you can give them it large on the track and will stick with a 4x4 no probs
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Virgo
dont ever remember a time when your 2wd was "really slowly"....lol

what did you always say, 185 per tank.....and not mpg
My Escort would leave it for dead anywhere bar a straight line.

I can remember it getting a bit fruity five up in the wet as the cams had their second wind and it lit the tyres up at 125mph in the top end of 3rd gear (3.36 gearing) .
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:10 PM
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2wd = manly

























































































4wd = wannabe manly



2wd everytime over 4wd for me !!!! and i know lots others of same opinion

rwd = REAL wheel drive !!
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:11 PM
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ive got a video of a blue one at lakeside comin sideways out of a turning ...i try to grt it on here
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
...really slowly .
Especially round roundabouts Mike?

Last edited by Paul_RS; 21-10-2009 at 06:13 PM.
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:18 PM
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RWD = fun/dangerous in anything other than perfect dry for your average driver (and lets be honest 99.9% of pF drivers are average and not the drifting gods they make out to be ).

4wd = fast/safer

Id rather have 4wd knowing i will likely have a car that i can drive through a wet winter and likely not have smashed it up going backwards through a hedge/wall/shop window etc. Where as with a powerful RWD car most drivers would end up either having to drive really slowly (wheres the fun in that? ) or accept the fact you either cant drive it much in wet or accept the massively increased chances of bashing it in.

We are after all talking about almost 30 year old suspension/handling design with NO driver aids. a RWD old ford is not like a modern BMW with all the driver aids that mean even a old lady can drive in the wet and not die!
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
surely if your into driving fast and safe around roundabouts you get a 4wd ??? i can see it now m-sport going 2wd with the wrc cars cos it looks good smoking up the rears and laying 9 grand out on the rev counter.

no 2wd cossie looks better showboating than a 4wd one driven properly.

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/1760/

and again a year later

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...snijers&hl=en#
Yer man can drive alright

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...44400285279454
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:23 PM
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plus you can get 4wd cars sideways just as much as a RWD. Just takes a bit more effort thats all!!

In the wet i very easily can get my 4wd car sideways out of junctions and on roundabouts just being an idiot with the loud pedal and steering wheel

So 4wd can be just as fun.
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:33 PM
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I was laying under my escy while stripping it back for new bushes bearings etc...thinking maybe i should 2wd it as i have to change box 3 or 4 times a year..................
so i may try it for next year as its not much of a job.....
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:36 PM
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look at ken block or what ever his name is he uses 4x4 dont he in his car
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Sounds like you need a proper 4x4 gearbox!
Old 21-10-2009 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
plus you can get 4wd cars sideways just as much as a RWD. Just takes a bit more effort thats all!!

In the wet i very easily can get my 4wd car sideways out of junctions and on roundabouts just being an idiot with the loud pedal and steering wheel

So 4wd can be just as fun.

Sorry but i would love to see a 4x4 saff with lets say 300bhp go sideways the same as a 300 bhp 2wd saff
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sideways is great fun, but when u just wanna go for a drive with skyline's and rx7's etc the tail out antics gets abit old when u just wanna go quick. 4x4 is alot faster, although more fragile. it depends what u want to do.
and i can spin all 4 wheels in first and second in the wet in a streight line. so a 2wd must be to much when u have big power.
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that depends if it shits its gearbox/front diff pulling away or not
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Sorry but i would love to see a 4x4 saff with lets say 300bhp go sideways the same as a 300 bhp 2wd saff

easy

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/1760/

ignore the title though as theres no such thing as a lhd cozzie sapphire.
Old 21-10-2009 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by escos-jim
It'd save me a lot of money in transmission hhmmmmm decisions.

then there is new crossmember, sump, d/shafts and stuff
You can run 2wd using all the esc cos front end stuff. You can cap off the front hubs and it will make no difference. Obviously change the sump but thats a minor.

Old 21-10-2009 | 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
easy

http://www.motorsportmad.com/view/1760/

ignore the title though as theres no such thing as a lhd cozzie sapphire.
Now try to be realistic and talk road cars with average drivers not full blown rally cars with pro drivers
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
...really slowly .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d01VB...eature=related
not precisely a rwd escort cosworth but you get me,rwd.......slowly
Old 21-10-2009 | 08:03 PM
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is this not sideways mostly??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM9C9CJPXmY
thats 4wd
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Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Sorry but i would love to see a 4x4 saff with lets say 300bhp go sideways the same as a 300 bhp 2wd saff
Originally Posted by NORTH YORKS RS SPARES
Now try to be realistic and talk road cars with average drivers not full blown rally cars with pro drivers



you should of said flipping road cars.

that video proves though that a 300 brake 4wd cozzie can go sideways and smoke the tyres easy just like a 2wd if your a proper driver with good kit.
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4x4 for those with lots of money and love the track,

2wd for a road car to have a bit of fun

2wd is what ill be having when i get a saff
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
understatement, awesome
Old 22-10-2009 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by RC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d01VB...eature=related
not precisely a rwd escort cosworth but you get me,rwd.......slowly
Some nice driving in a lovely car, but you've only got to ask yourself what finished in front of him when he wasn't first .
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all about the fun factor for me. If it puts a smile on my face its a good thing. couldnt give a monkeys who is faster in a straight line or round a track - if its fun its fun - fuck everyone else!
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i have one.never liked the heavy/initial understeer feel of the 4wd car and 2wd'ing cured all that. great conversion that makes the car faster
Old 22-10-2009 | 10:29 AM
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to be honest guys i would leave it 4wd if it wasnt for my gearbox shitting itself all the time & this is the only thing pushing me towards rwd. What sort of power can a standard t5 box handle?



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