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Old 11-10-2009, 11:29 AM
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What are peoples view on it?!

Where the gf is working/training now the person who does alot of the engine work who has been around for donkeys years and knows his stuff and suggested i get it as he can get the car running a shit load better using dta management rather than the standard ecu livemapped etc. Know its pricey but they can get me the ecu for trade and map it for next to nothing and for the price of the ecu and loom and mapping session its not far off the price of buying a L8 ecu and a livemap session on a cossie ecu!!
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Originally Posted by Toe Knee
What are peoples view on it?!

Where the gf is working/training now the person who does alot of the engine work who has been around for donkeys years and knows his stuff and suggested i get it as he can get the car running a shit load better using dta management rather than the standard ecu livemapped etc. Know its pricey but they can get me the ecu for trade and map it for next to nothing and for the price of the ecu and loom and mapping session its not far off the price of buying a L8 ecu and a livemap session on a cossie ecu!!

no doubt its a good ecu but as for getting it running better than a L8 that all depends on who is mapping the L8 my astra gsi is on L8 mapped my karl norris and runs as factory fitted
Old 11-10-2009, 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by panelbeater
no doubt its a good ecu but as for getting it running better than a L8 that all depends on who is mapping the L8 my astra gsi is on L8 mapped my karl norris and runs as factory fitted
that sounds good do you have any pics?
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Originally Posted by Toe Knee
What are peoples view on it?!

Where the gf is working/training now the person who does alot of the engine work who has been around for donkeys years and knows his stuff and suggested i get it as he can get the car running a shit load better using dta management rather than the standard ecu livemapped etc. Know its pricey but they can get me the ecu for trade and map it for next to nothing and for the price of the ecu and loom and mapping session its not far off the price of buying a L8 ecu and a livemap session on a cossie ecu!!
i would go for it mate, maybe bit more expensive,i was for goin level 8,but when i added everything up including boat fairs etc for me anyway,it was as cheap to go for a proper management
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Originally Posted by clarke5700
that sounds good do you have any pics?
yeah, the inlet pipe is now red and its now running a t34 on an rst manifold



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The guys there know what their doing as they've built an escos thats running circa 500bhp on their rollers and they did all the engine work etc and mapping themselves.

Main reason i say it is cos your looking a 600 odd livemap plus the lambda sensor etc to run closed loop and best part of 200 for an L8 ecu so thats £800 + when i can get the dta ecu/loom and get it mapped for around the 1k mark ish!! and then obviously i can keep an eye on whats going on with etc with a laptop.

Wouldnt be for a while as i dont have the money at the mo and dont know whats happening at work but just wanted to get some ideas on what ppl think about it.
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i don't understand why you would want to keep an eye on it with a laptop?
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Originally Posted by panelbeater
i don't understand why you would want to keep an eye on it with a laptop?
Maybe he was metaphorically speaking. He might want to change his shift light, RPM limit, check sensors and make sure everything is correct. Or of cause make minor changes.

Which DTA is it your looking at? Sounds like an S40?
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Maybe he was metaphorically speaking. He might want to change his shift light, RPM limit, check sensors and make sure everything is correct. Or of cause make minor changes.

Which DTA is it your looking at? Sounds like an S40?
i can understand that but after saying someone else is going to map it, i can't see the point thats all
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Originally Posted by panelbeater
i can understand that but after saying someone else is going to map it, i can't see the point thats all
He probably never will but might want to "have a look" a bit like most would look at any work your doing for them but not actually know what there looking at.

But still with a DTA there are many more places he could get it mapped, which obviously lowers the price.
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Which dta exactly? I wouldn't bother with the s40 it cant even do sequential injection.
You'll probably find the decent ecu's are.... reassuringly expensive, around 50% more than the entry level stuff.
I found the price differance between an entry level dta ecu and vipec v44(which is very good imo) surprisingly close.
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yes was being metaphoric im not gonna mess about with the maps or anything would just be to check if things are working ok etc thats for the pro's to do.

Its the S60 not the S40, and the mapping they can do for pretty much nothing so just be the price of the ecu and loom.

Just trying to get opinions on how good dta management is etc compared to others at that price, its what he has reccomended and as the gf is working there he's not trying to push me into buying it or anything!!

Wont be for a while thou, specially if i get made redundant in a weeks time
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my escort has dta managment, and i know a few others who run it aswell, not had my car long to know what it can and cant do but is going for setting up etc end of month.
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ah right cool, just gauging ideas really for when i have a bit of money to spend, like i say its gettting mapped for pretty much nothing and getting the ecu and loom for trade hence if its good for the sake of a few hundred over the price of getting a L8 ecu and getting it livemapped it sounds tempting.

Btw the reason i would get an L8 if i was livemapping it is i would want it closed loop if i was paying the price for a livemap which the S60 can do aswell!!
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The S60 is a capable ECU, im sure it will be fine for what you are after Tony, but in terms of the day to day running with perfect cold starting and spot on transient fuelling etc, I dont think anyone could better what Karl can do with the L8, so its horses for courses.
Personally I would prefer the S60 out of the two just because it is open for anyone to map.
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