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Old 08-10-2009 | 05:53 PM
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Default Unlimited oil/petrol... have we been done over?

I'm a bit of a futurist, and like to keep up on new sciences and technologies, so given my environmental views clashing with my petrol head views I thought this was quite good... producing synthetic petrol.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/279153

A team of scientists based at the Royal Institute of Technology in Sweden have made a "revolutionary" discovery about how hydrocarbon is formed, learning that animal and plant fossils are not necessary to form crude oil.
The discovery, the scientists say, means that the world will never run out of crude oil.
Great. Although I think we should look more at less polluting ways of powering our lives (plastic, chemicals, oil, petrol), for example most people could do with an electric car... most don't care how they work, just that it gets them from A-B, so petrol could be saved for us that like the sound (and power) of a whacking great V8, or turbo'd YB.

Kutcherov had recently proven that hydrocarbons can be created out of water, calcium carbonate and iron, and this means that crude oil is a sustainable, renewable resource, according to reports. However, this discovery does not mean that emissions from the combustion of hydrocarbons do not create climate change.
Now I'll state here, that I've never beleived that oil comes from the compacted remains of animal and plant life buried deep underground. Coal maybe, but not oil. I'm of the belief that crude is abiotic, and is generated by the mantle under the earths crust.

BUT, and heres the killer, a little bit at the end of the article....

These recent discoveries were found by building on a German process referred to as the Fischer-Tropsch type (FTT) genesis. Germany had plenty of coal but very little petroleum, which prompted a serious push by German scientists to find a way to create a substitute fuel. The FTT process was developed and patented in the 1920s, and was subsequently used throughout World War II by Germany and Japan. The process has been the basis for the creation of jet fuel made from water in the United States, as reported by Wired magazine.
So for the past 8 decades, the tech has been there, but we've just been paying trillions through the nose (exhaust) to big oil companies and already too rich Arabs.

Hmmm...

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Old 08-10-2009 | 06:27 PM
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ok it may never run out but how much does it cost to produce the stuff?
it may actually be more expensive than taking it out the ground
Old 08-10-2009 | 06:33 PM
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the germans were/are the bollox with all there shit they done through the years mainly around ww2
Old 08-10-2009 | 06:43 PM
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i was reading about the creation of petrol substitutes by germany during the war on wiki this afternoon - spooky
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Wow that is mental
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as oil supplies dwindle it will become viable to produce synthetic petrol.
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
i was reading about the creation of petrol substitutes by germany during the war on wiki this afternoon - spooky
Wierd.

Were you aware of "Operation Paperclip", which happened at the end of WW2? All the top Nazi scientists were shipped over to the States, to work on their "black" projects.

If it's tech used from the 30's I doubt it would be more expensive than pulling out of the ground. Will try and see if there's anything about on costs of producing it synthetically.
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