jundy

Hey guys,

Before you get you beat me and tell me to use the search i will say that i have seen searching and reading for the past two days. All i find are threds detailing bits you would need for a reliable engine and/or guides how to make a nice zetec turbo.

What I am after is a fully build zetec engine that i can pay somone and get it off them. I have a focus turbo with a blown engine and want to buy somthing to simply plop in.

Any idea who will have them off the shelf or can build a reliable one pronto.

I just want somthing to be capable of 300bhp so obviously strong bottom end, but i will be running 250bhp with focus rs turbo and manifold, i have everything else inc intercooler omex management fuel rail injectors ect ect all set on the car. Main note is that i want to be relaible and reasonable with cost, dont want to fork out £££ but round 1k-1.5k ish.

What options do i have? Any suggestions?

creator

To be honest mate I think you'd be doing well to get an engine built on that budget unless your building it yourself.best thing to do would be ring a few tuners and ask them how much

jundy

yeh, i think am going to do that.

was thinking first choice MSD then NMS but i know i wont be doing anything with a budget .

Rick

you won't get a complete new engine for that. What's wrong with the current blown engine?

jundy

am not really sure. I originally suspected it to be the cylinder head but not i think its the bottom end and turbo aswell. I havent taken it apart as of yet but theres a really lowd knocking noise coming from it.

Either way i got it done from an unreliable place so its always at the back of my head that it could blow up. lol.

xrBennett

theres a couple for sale in the strangely named for sale section lol, you could get them on your budget

jundy

All seem to be silvertops.

SiZT

thought about getting yours on a ramp and checking whats up with it? could just be a spun shell

Edit: Whereabouts are you based?

Neil@FastFord

What's wrong with a Silvertop ZT?

What's your budget? Have i read right that its about £1500?

What other parts do you already have?

jundy

Bradford, and ive taken off the cylinder head and there was no damage to the pistons but thats about as technical i can get.

I dont know how to investigate further. Spun a shell?lol.

SiZT

Is it a blacktop? I'll put a guess in right now that one of the main bearings has span causing the crank to knock. Take it to a local specialist and have the engine checked out, is Bolton far (haven't got a clue and cba to look at a map) Chorley Street Garage may be able to help

jundy

@Neal - Im putting it into a focus and the standard one is the blacktop i thought to stick to it. Hopefully less changes on the mapping aswell.

I have goten a few quotes and my preferred being around the £3500 mark but a properly built engine drive in drive out jobby mapped.

@Si - Yup blacktop. Is there a way i can see it. Removing the sump or anything?

Bolton being aprox 50miles away.

Neil@FastFord

I get ya now, makes sense.

Where did you get the quotes from? What spec?

£3500 seems more reasonable than £1500...i dare say it can be done cheap as chips, but if you are hoping for around 300, or at least 300bhp at at later date it would need some decent bits. Reading that you have intercooler and management gives you a good start and saves outlaying more cash!


Might be worth a call to Gordon at S.R.M.C. 07979005530

I know he is busy, but he built my Silvertop when i was with him, seems strong so far, just upping the boost and making tweaks with every trackday it does.

Gordon1

i have a black top here that is forsale

Neil@FastFord

Speaking of which....

bazzle

you should be able to pick up a focus rs engine for that sort of figure , thats a black top zetec turbo basically

zetaboostboy522bhp

hi mate , i know a fellow thats got the last area six/ian howell new and unused zetec turbo engine. its got inlet , turbo etc but he is now willing to split it up but the engine is going as one. its running the same bottom end spec as mine so good for well over 500bhp which has been dynoed and tested. heres the full engine spec and if your interested i will give you his name , its a silver top but its only a engine mount and nothing hard to get made

Zetec Turbo Engine
2100cc 16v Zetec Turbo engine, built by Ian Howell @ Fiesta Frenzy Motorsport/Area Six. The engine will be supplied with the turbo and inlet/exhaust manifolds loose and a number of ancillaries required including the engine mount, oil feed pipe, etc. Please note this engine has never been started.

Spec-
2100cc with BRAND NEW 86mm Diameter Fiesta Frenzy Spec Arias Pistons
Eagle H-Section Forged Steel Con Rods
BRAND NEW ARP Conrod bolts
BRAND NEW oil pump (1800cc Zetec Fiesta)
Less than 30 miles old crank
BRAND NEW shells, rings, seals etc
7.6:1 compression ratio
Fiesta Frenzy Ultimate Camshafts
Fiesta Frenzy Uprated Valve Springs
Focus Central Blue Vernier Pulleys
APR Cam Sprocket Bolts
Blue 8mm Magnecor Igntion Leads
1800cc Sump
BRAND NEW Ford Motorsport Tubular Exhaust Manifold
BRAND NEW GT28RS Ball Bearing Turbocharger with 0.64 exhaust housing
Rover M16 Inlet manifold (rare) (not the inferior T16 manifold)
440cc Ford Racing Injectors
FSE Motorsport Fuel pressure Regulator with gauge
OFAC Engine Loom with ECU, Motorsport Developments Live Map Chip for Zetec Turbo (Will require remap), AMAL and MAP sensors.


cheers paul

woolford

i might have some focus rs piston and rods with arp bolts up for sale??

SiZT

He may have a problem using a silver top engine because of the mounts

jundy

interesting with the 2.1 zetec, i did actually see that in the for sale section but didnt bother as its a silver top. What is he asking out of interest?

Thanks Woolford mate, but i have JE pistons and rods in my current blown engine (seemed ok lol) and a spare RS piston rod set laying around somewhere aswell.

@bazzel - i cant seem to find one at that price, Dealers are charging way more then that for a complete engine.

jundy

@Neal - got that quote from MSD will be getting full spec and details tomorow, i have to supply some of the parts though but it does sound like a solid thing.

SiZT

Oh, and you can check the main caps your self. Get a mechanic there with you. If the cranks duff go and pull one out of any Zetec E (NOT SE) engine out of the scrap yard.

jundy

What should i be looking for?

SiZT

heavy scoring (use a plastigauge to double check), if your going to junk the engine might be worth just giving it a check. By the sounds of it your not confident in the person that built the engine.

Edited to say: Make sure you've got a mechanic mate or someone else with you! Is the engine out of the car?

zetaboostboy522bhp

i think he was looking at £4000/£5000 for the whole lot , he said that the turbo cost over 1k alone so its not a bad deal , all i would say is a custom inlet £650 (area six which i can get for you ) and a big valve head and your easily talking of a 400+ bhp engine. just remember one thing is that ian engines hold most of the records set from 5 years + ago and still yet to be beaten and also his custom service is top , if you brought this i can honestly say that he would look after you and offer any advice etc and would most probably offer you 12 months warranty as its not been used.

cheers paul

jundy

confident you say??? does engine disadvantages ring any bells.

Just to note my car is the black blown focus on ebay + sale section, i was thinking if i cant get back 3k minimum then am going to start from scratch and get a new engine ect.

SiZT

Ouch, buy the one Gordon's got if the car doesn't sell, he maps Omex as well

creator

paul is he not willing to split the engine mate?

EsCos_Enrico

i need a temp sensor for the charge temp! can anyone help??????

PS: originally for focus rs (maybe another one is good enough to do the job!?)

Rick

MSD's built and mapped engine for £3500 is a good deal - you won't have any probelms with it then..

zetaboostboy522bhp

hi matey , yes he is willing to split the engine package , are you interested in something?

cheers paul

jundy

i will be going with the msd, at least that way i dont have to do any extra runing around.

Only thing am thinking is what to do for the turbo. Am going to be skint after the build so wil have to stay with the t25 or get a cheapish focus rs joby n manifold and aim for a moderate 250-270bhp.

andy130

iTrader: (2)

ian howells engines are great never head a bad thing about the or him,

creator

paul id be intrested to know how much he wants for the complete cylinder head with cams in ect but wouldnt want any of the manifolds if you can have a word for me please mate??

cheers danny

jundy

I didnt really want to start a new thread so a question for you guy, whats a good budget turbo/manifold combination?

Bar the t25 s13 turbo with rs manifold, what other options are there?

crazycage

escort turbo manifold and a t34 for 300hp, its the cheapest way to get the power you want.

zetaboostboy522bhp

cant say fairer that that as a budget conversion as i used this when my engine was 300bhp

cheers paul

jundy

T34 it is then. Thought it was a faf due to geting the head tapped and weakening it or geting adapter, which ave read,aint very good. Or are they rare cases?

Also,i was looking on here and ebay last night,i coundlt find anyting,seem quite rare or am i just blind.

Out of interest does anyone know whats the max you can get out of the t25 turbos??

jundy

Anyone?

Also, does anyone know a good place to get an adaptor for the escort turbo manifold?