I went santa pod on sunday and im sure i heard someone say they were going to fit a focus rs gearbox into their escort rs turbo!? Can this be done, does anybody know? Cheers

 

Crazycage can do this for you. He can have it done in his lunchbreak.

IMO, it's a bitch of a job. Can be done, but its alot of work.

 

aslong as you use the rear starter but you have to remote fit the oil filter etc

 

Im just after some cheaper options than a stage 2+ box as they are a bit on the expesive side!!!

 

Well forget the FRS box then, its certainly not a cheap option.

If you've got the power, you need to spend the money, we've all had to one way or another, I'm afraid.

 

I have one in mine. You don't have to do anything to the filter Tim, starter is miles away from it.

Rick.

 

will a frs box fit in a mk3 fiesta with out much work and what will i need for it to fit?

 

Same as above. Its not easy.

BC/IB5 gearbox to MTX75 is not an easy conversion. Mounts are different, shafts are different and so on.

 

PM crazycage as he has done it.

 

might have been mentioned before but I dont remember it, how does the frs box differ to other mtx75 boxes?

 

shot peened and the quaife diff.

 

the frs box has a quaife diff in it

 

3,61 ratio

 

so I take it that once that box is in the car you wouldnt need to mod it any further on a circa 300bhp engine??

 

mine has a 3.41 now as the focus runs on 18's

 

What did you have to do to get it fit and how much about did it cost?

 

driveshafts, modify inner wing, two new box gear box mounts.

 

Is that it, it just bolted on? Did you use focus driveshafts?

 

no lol, you have make the mounts for the box, then weld them onto the car. driveshafts have to be cusom made. Then you need a master cylinder for the clutch, and a focus gear stick and selector cables.

Rick

 

you need to get a life man, it took me about 12hours to do the conversion on my fiesta turbo, like it or not that is a fact. it cost £480 as i sold my old helix clutch and cts stg1 box.

just because you fucked up using the shity rs2k box with a shit linkage and no real choice of clutches thats your problem and you even said it at the ford fair to me without knowing lol.
try putting your car on the strip next to mine some time .

 

Chill out man. You had a bad day?

So, we had a stealth conversation at Ford Fair eh? Yeah right. More like tongues wagged I reckon.

 

crazycage (gary) tbh from my view i thought you had just got on with it?

Pushing boundries is what it is about

 

Il put my hand on heart and say fitting my st170 box into the Fiesta was the biggest ballache of building the car.

Once done though its by far one of the best upgrades.

If you can do all the fabrication yourself like Crazycage has then it may seem fairly straight forward.
But as Christian has stated it is not as simple to do may be easier in a Fiesta than an escort who knows!

Either way its certainly more complex than a bish bash bosh and your done!

 

we did yes.
ok so i might be getting a bit defensive but you have brought me into this thread and one the other day ,im not on here telling everyone how to do it ,im more than happy with how mine drives and feels out on the road witch is more than you had to say about yours at the ford fair.

and yes so every one knows i didn't find it that hard to do BUT im a welder by trade.

i mean the box fits onto the engine ! the starter is easy extend two wires! the gear stick mounts in the exact same place as the escort/fiesta one and even uses 3 out the four bolt holes all ready in the floor pan! the hydraulic clutch is easy-er on the fiesta but still no big job on the escort,the mounts didn't take long to do and i welded up some shafts that you are most unhappy about them not snapping even tho ive killed it at the pod twice and ford fair 0-60 setting times that not manny people in the fwd ford scene can do.

 

You need to calm yourself down a bit, despite whatever problems I have with my car, I have a plan to sort it now and its no big deal. I'm in no great rush and now the clutch is bedded in a bit, it's better to drive. So, I'm just enjoying it now.

When I do decide to rectify the problems, it will be to the same high standard that was used for the original conversion.

There are other reasons I can't use the FRS 'box, but I already have the new box lined up, just down to when I can be arsed to do anything about it. The car gets very little of my time at the moment, hence why I really don't give a fuck about it.

In real life, it goes like fuck and I am just enjoying pulling it out of the garage and driving it, knowing that the gearbox can most probably take it.

I did read that you have broken driveshafts and for me, doing this conversion and leaving any question marks or grey area's in terms of strength wasn't an option. It's not worth doing the work to improve the gearbox if there is a chance that the driveshafts will break. It's my opinion and you are entitled to yours. My comments on this and other threads were intended as light-hearted banter, so take it as that and chill the fuck out! LOL.

 

Crazycages shafts do seem to hold together however Im on your team Christian

I would not want a shaft snapping and taking out my sump or gearbox casing etc.
To rule out the chance of that happening one piece shaft is the only way.

However my box is not as straight forward to fit as the Focus Rs number so at your easy to fit gearboxes

 

It's not just the damage Luca, it's where you might be when it happens. If you're at a trackday, or you've driven to Santa Pod and you snap a shaft, thats pretty much game over. Or, you'll be flat on your back fitting new bits. Fuck that!

 

Why stop at just the box?

Use the engine and running gear and you might get a better car

 

so if an mtx-75 came with the mondeo 2.0 duratec engine (same as what's in my car) but I have an ib5

If I want to put a mtx-75 in my car i.e focus rs gearbox will I need the bell housing off a mondeo mk3 gearbox fit on the focus rs gearbox and this would fit?

Or am I best fitting the inards and diff off the focus rs gearbox to the mondeo mk3 item? Can you even do that?

I know i'll need driveshafts aswell and please bear in mind that the duratec unlike a zetec takes a reading off the gearbox for speed, I think the zetec takes it off the hub?

Sorry for 1 million questions but I need help as my gearbox aint gonna like my new power

 

what ever mate, and what you read was that i snapped a standard factory drive shaft in my fiesta at the pod running a cts stg1 gearbox not on my focus box and welded shafts . and if they snap i have said from the start that i will get some dave mac ones.

and if one goes its just like any other failer all that will happen is i will have a loss of power as its a atb diff in there, not like the lsd that will put power to the other side and put you off the road or into the other lane at the pod like my cts box did.