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Well thats cleared a few RS issuses up but not actually covering the question in hand lol.
Was the qusestion somthing like as a visiting car club stand you can't disply RS cars?
Well come on you RSOC members whats the Answear then?
Cause as a NON member for now I know that
1 you can display your RS on a regional stand if a fully paid member of the RSOC at a discounted price
2 If your a member of your regional group and not the main RSOC then you can't
3 If you are attending with a visiting car club ie this website then you can member or not and it costs Ł15 per car!
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Was the qusestion somthing like as a visiting car club stand you can't disply RS cars?
Well come on you RSOC members whats the Answear then?
Cause as a NON member for now I know that
1 you can display your RS on a regional stand if a fully paid member of the RSOC at a discounted price
2 If your a member of your regional group and not the main RSOC then you can't
3 If you are attending with a visiting car club ie this website then you can member or not and it costs Ł15 per car!
FACT!
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All this bollocks about what do i get back , to be honest if thats why you join a club so you can get free stuff back then to be honest i dont think
1, you understand the concept of what a CLUB is
2, I dont think many people would realy want you in there CLUB
If you join a fitness club what do you get back ?, Ill tell you , NOTHING , as its the same as every other club in the world , YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU PUT IN ,
I realy cant believe that people will make such a song and dance over Ł30 and yet most will pay Ł10 to join a bloody website where all they have to do is moan ,
Makes me fucking sick
1, you understand the concept of what a CLUB is
2, I dont think many people would realy want you in there CLUB
If you join a fitness club what do you get back ?, Ill tell you , NOTHING , as its the same as every other club in the world , YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU PUT IN ,
I realy cant believe that people will make such a song and dance over Ł30 and yet most will pay Ł10 to join a bloody website where all they have to do is moan ,
Makes me fucking sick
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All this bollocks about what do i get back , to be honest if thats why you join a club so you can get free stuff back then to be honest i dont think
1, you understand the concept of what a CLUB is
2, I dont think many people would realy want you in there CLUB
If you join a fitness club what do you get back ?, Ill tell you , NOTHING , as its the same as every other club in the world , YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU PUT IN ,
I realy cant believe that people will make such a song and dance over Ł30 and yet most will pay Ł10 to join a bloody website where all they have to do is moan ,
Makes me fucking sick
1, you understand the concept of what a CLUB is
2, I dont think many people would realy want you in there CLUB
If you join a fitness club what do you get back ?, Ill tell you , NOTHING , as its the same as every other club in the world , YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU PUT IN ,
I realy cant believe that people will make such a song and dance over Ł30 and yet most will pay Ł10 to join a bloody website where all they have to do is moan ,
Makes me fucking sick
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At the end of the day, I'm a FORD enthusiast, not just an RS enthusiast. I asked a simple question, and I think under the 400 layers of bullshit and arguing, I've got an answer in there somewhere
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Whether I join the RSOC is up to me, just because I own an RS, doesn't mean I have to join the RSOC. I'm a member of two other Ford clubs, and as a Ford enthusiast, I'm quite happy being involved with any type of blue oval, RS or otherwise.
It's my opinion that this scene spends far too much time kissing the arse of the RS brand, where most of the other models remain forgotten, which is a crying shame. I understand all the heritage and stuff, but I do find it a bit sad.
But, whether I join the RSOC or all the other shite is totally irrelevant to the questions asked, a few people just wanted clarity on what the rules were regarding who could show their car where. The question may come up every year, but some of us don't go every year, so just want some information, which shouldn't be too much to ask!
It's just as usual with PF, fighting comes before anything
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At the end of the day, I'm a FORD enthusiast, not just an RS enthusiast. I asked a simple question, and I think under the 400 layers of bullshit and arguing, I've got an answer in there somewhere![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
Whether I join the RSOC is up to me, just because I own an RS, doesn't mean I have to join the RSOC. I'm a member of two other Ford clubs, and as a Ford enthusiast, I'm quite happy being involved with any type of blue oval, RS or otherwise.
It's my opinion that this scene spends far too much time kissing the arse of the RS brand, where most of the other models remain forgotten, which is a crying shame. I understand all the heritage and stuff, but I do find it a bit sad.
But, whether I join the RSOC or all the other shite is totally irrelevant to the questions asked, a few people just wanted clarity on what the rules were regarding who could show their car where. The question may come up every year, but some of us don't go every year, so just want some information, which shouldn't be too much to ask!
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At the end of the day, I'm a FORD enthusiast, not just an RS enthusiast. I asked a simple question, and I think under the 400 layers of bullshit and arguing, I've got an answer in there somewhere
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Whether I join the RSOC is up to me, just because I own an RS, doesn't mean I have to join the RSOC. I'm a member of two other Ford clubs, and as a Ford enthusiast, I'm quite happy being involved with any type of blue oval, RS or otherwise.
It's my opinion that this scene spends far too much time kissing the arse of the RS brand, where most of the other models remain forgotten, which is a crying shame. I understand all the heritage and stuff, but I do find it a bit sad.
But, whether I join the RSOC or all the other shite is totally irrelevant to the questions asked, a few people just wanted clarity on what the rules were regarding who could show their car where. The question may come up every year, but some of us don't go every year, so just want some information, which shouldn't be too much to ask!
It's just as usual with PF, fighting comes before anything
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the main problem is people get charged to be a local group member and there should not be a charge for this at all
this was discussed last year at the local group seminar
it will once again be a topic this year !!!!!!!!!!!!
dicko hit the nail on the head, you should be a national member before joining a local group and there would be no confusion
this was discussed last year at the local group seminar
it will once again be a topic this year !!!!!!!!!!!!
dicko hit the nail on the head, you should be a national member before joining a local group and there would be no confusion
it does make more sense than charging subs to the local group. I would happily pay Ł35 a year once, to take part in every single show as opposed to Ł20 for all the local shows, then Ł35 for national day ( which is how i see it as the other stuff you get is irrelevant to us )
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exactly dicko
over the years the local groups have become bigger and wanted to be more financially secure, hence the fee they charge
some then think they dont need to go by the rules they agreed to when their group was set up !! ( not a dig at anyone in particular ! )
as for this year and visiting clubs
rs cars will be allowed on visiting car club stands ( member or not ) ( however dicko need to join lol !!!!!!!!!! )
hope this is cleared up now
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over the years the local groups have become bigger and wanted to be more financially secure, hence the fee they charge
some then think they dont need to go by the rules they agreed to when their group was set up !! ( not a dig at anyone in particular ! )
as for this year and visiting clubs
rs cars will be allowed on visiting car club stands ( member or not ) ( however dicko need to join lol !!!!!!!!!! )
hope this is cleared up now
regards
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exactly dicko
over the years the local groups have become bigger and wanted to be more financially secure, hence the fee they charge
some then think they dont need to go by the rules they agreed to when their group was set up !! ( not a dig at anyone in particular ! )
as for this year and visiting clubs
rs cars will be allowed on visiting car club stands ( member or not ) ( however dicko need to join lol !!!!!!!!!! )
hope this is cleared up now
regards
Dave
over the years the local groups have become bigger and wanted to be more financially secure, hence the fee they charge
some then think they dont need to go by the rules they agreed to when their group was set up !! ( not a dig at anyone in particular ! )
as for this year and visiting clubs
rs cars will be allowed on visiting car club stands ( member or not ) ( however dicko need to join lol !!!!!!!!!! )
hope this is cleared up now
regards
Dave
Rs cars on visiting car clubs Job done
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All this bollocks about what do i get back , to be honest if thats why you join a club so you can get free stuff back then to be honest i dont think
1, you understand the concept of what a CLUB is
2, I dont think many people would realy want you in there CLUB
If you join a fitness club what do you get back ?, Ill tell you , NOTHING , as its the same as every other club in the world , YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU PUT IN ,
1, you understand the concept of what a CLUB is
2, I dont think many people would realy want you in there CLUB
If you join a fitness club what do you get back ?, Ill tell you , NOTHING , as its the same as every other club in the world , YOU GET BACK WHAT YOU PUT IN ,
Thing is though you don't need to join a fitness club to get fit just like you don't have to join the RSOC cause you have an RS lol.
Ah well lest we know RS cars will be on visiting car club stands just like every other yr thats passed us by
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Theres no free loaders at all so's I guess every 1 that ain't a member is a free loader then thats funny as thats a sure way to recruit new members to the club
Does every 1 that has been out and bought a new RS Focus from ford had it rammed down there throat that they have to join the RSOC to attend a show /meeting I don't think so.
They buy the car for what it is not for the shit that goes with it. and that go's for every model of Rs.
Personally I would have thought of joining but if thats the attitude of most of the members why bother?
i've supported the RS marque for many years buy driving 1.
As for the RSOC paying out for National Day they do but they make alot more back through ticket sales to the show not just from its members.
With out the public support and other clubs being there the show would be alot smaller than it is now and the RSOC over heads would be massive!
And I'm not just speaking for myself here I'm talking for a lot of other people that I know that WERE MEMBERS of the RSOC but ain't no more cause of the negative atitude of some of its members.
Like I say great way to recruit new 1's
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Lol Free loaders you make me laugh
Theres no free loaders at all so's I guess every 1 that ain't a member is a free loader then thats funny as thats a sure way to recruit new members to the club
Does every 1 that has been out and bought a new RS Focus from ford had it rammed down there throat that they have to join the RSOC to attend a show /meeting I don't think so.
They buy the car for what it is not for the shit that goes with it. and that go's for every model of Rs.
Personally I would have thought of joining but if thats the attitude of most of the members why bother?
i've supported the RS marque for many years buy driving 1.
As for the RSOC paying out for National Day they do but they make alot more back through ticket sales to the show not just from its members.
With out the public support and other clubs being there the show would be alot smaller than it is now and the RSOC over heads would be massive!
And I'm not just speaking for myself here I'm talking for a lot of other people that I know that WERE MEMBERS of the RSOC but ain't no more cause of the negative atitude of some of its members.
Like I say great way to recruit new 1's
Theres no free loaders at all so's I guess every 1 that ain't a member is a free loader then thats funny as thats a sure way to recruit new members to the club
Does every 1 that has been out and bought a new RS Focus from ford had it rammed down there throat that they have to join the RSOC to attend a show /meeting I don't think so.
They buy the car for what it is not for the shit that goes with it. and that go's for every model of Rs.
Personally I would have thought of joining but if thats the attitude of most of the members why bother?
i've supported the RS marque for many years buy driving 1.
As for the RSOC paying out for National Day they do but they make alot more back through ticket sales to the show not just from its members.
With out the public support and other clubs being there the show would be alot smaller than it is now and the RSOC over heads would be massive!
And I'm not just speaking for myself here I'm talking for a lot of other people that I know that WERE MEMBERS of the RSOC but ain't no more cause of the negative atitude of some of its members.
Like I say great way to recruit new 1's
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Lol Free loaders you make me laugh
Theres no free loaders at all so's I guess every 1 that ain't a member is a free loader then thats funny as thats a sure way to recruit new members to the club
Does every 1 that has been out and bought a new RS Focus from ford had it rammed down there throat that they have to join the RSOC to attend a show /meeting I don't think so.
They buy the car for what it is not for the shit that goes with it. and that go's for every model of Rs.
Personally I would have thought of joining but if thats the attitude of most of the members why bother?
i've supported the RS marque for many years buy driving 1.
As for the RSOC paying out for National Day they do but they make alot more back through ticket sales to the show not just from its members.
With out the public support and other clubs being there the show would be alot smaller than it is now and the RSOC over heads would be massive!
And I'm not just speaking for myself here I'm talking for a lot of other people that I know that WERE MEMBERS of the RSOC but ain't no more cause of the negative atitude of some of its members.
Like I say great way to recruit new 1's
Theres no free loaders at all so's I guess every 1 that ain't a member is a free loader then thats funny as thats a sure way to recruit new members to the club
Does every 1 that has been out and bought a new RS Focus from ford had it rammed down there throat that they have to join the RSOC to attend a show /meeting I don't think so.
They buy the car for what it is not for the shit that goes with it. and that go's for every model of Rs.
Personally I would have thought of joining but if thats the attitude of most of the members why bother?
i've supported the RS marque for many years buy driving 1.
As for the RSOC paying out for National Day they do but they make alot more back through ticket sales to the show not just from its members.
With out the public support and other clubs being there the show would be alot smaller than it is now and the RSOC over heads would be massive!
And I'm not just speaking for myself here I'm talking for a lot of other people that I know that WERE MEMBERS of the RSOC but ain't no more cause of the negative atitude of some of its members.
Like I say great way to recruit new 1's
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The club is as good as you personally want to make it - i have only been a member for 3 years after returning to the UK but in that time i've seen changes that have benefited me as a member and others.
New committee members seem to be pointing the club in the right direction and seem to listen to all issues that are brought forward but you have to give them a chance as I'm led to believe they are still straightening out problems that were caused by past committee members.
If you want any more information get on to the RSOC main board the members on their will answer any of your questions
New committee members seem to be pointing the club in the right direction and seem to listen to all issues that are brought forward but you have to give them a chance as I'm led to believe they are still straightening out problems that were caused by past committee members.
If you want any more information get on to the RSOC main board the members on their will answer any of your questions
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The club is as good as you personally want to make it - i have only been a member for 3 years after returning to the UK but in that time i've seen changes that have benefited me as a member and others.
New committee members seem to be pointing the club in the right direction and seem to listen to all issues that are brought forward but you have to give them a chance as I'm led to believe they are still straightening out problems that were caused by past committee members.
If you want any more information get on to the RSOC main board the members on their will answer any of your questions
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New committee members seem to be pointing the club in the right direction and seem to listen to all issues that are brought forward but you have to give them a chance as I'm led to believe they are still straightening out problems that were caused by past committee members.
If you want any more information get on to the RSOC main board the members on their will answer any of your questions
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But what it don't need is the negative attitude to none members that could be prospective members in the future its a sure fire way of putting them off joining.
Or is that what the older memebers want to keep it for them selves don't want fresh blood amongst them. keep it in the circle if you like! cause thats the sort of attitude it puts across!
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Thats right mate I agree its as good as you want to make it like every thing in life ![Smile](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
But what it don't need is the negative attitude to none members that could be prospective members in the future its a sure fire way of putting them off joining.
Or is that what the older memebers want to keep it for them selves don't want fresh blood amongst them. keep it in the circle if you like! cause thats the sort of attitude it puts across!
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But what it don't need is the negative attitude to none members that could be prospective members in the future its a sure fire way of putting them off joining.
Or is that what the older memebers want to keep it for them selves don't want fresh blood amongst them. keep it in the circle if you like! cause thats the sort of attitude it puts across!
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The RSOC makes very very little proffit from Nat day mate , In fact its getting to the point where it may even be downsized as the risk involved with such a massive outlay is hardly worth it .
Think about it , Lay out over 50k to hold a show and it seriously pisses it down and the turnout is poor , what will happen to the club ? you quesed it , BUST ,
Like everything in life costs go up and the RSOC has had massive costs over the last few years that it has never had before ( solicitors for one ) most of the legal stuff was done by the club solicitor ( a member ) for very very cheap rates , now they pay full money as the old solicitor cant work for the club anymore , and we all know how much they charge
the RSOC now has to think about Heath and safety issues and the costs that go with it
Massive price rises in the hire of donnington for Nat day ( they tried a much cheaper option of rockingham but everyone moaned )
The list goes on mate
Believe me that your entrance fee for Nat day does not make massive proffots for the club , IT NEEDS MEMBERSHIP to continue and with more people wanting to be in a local group and go to Nat day without being a full RSOC member then the club simply cany survive
I know quite a few people who after many years away from the club have rejoined and have honestly said that there membership fee was worth ever penny
Its what Ł35 a year , anyone who says they cant afford this is telling little fibs , even studants can afford to go on the piss every weekend
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You will find that most RSOC members are quite passionate about it and understand what is involved in running one of the biggest motor clubs in the world and get a little wound up when they see negativity from people wanting the best parts about the club but wont join
I honestly feel that for what it costs to join you get so much back its a real bargain
You get more than just a mag etc as some people will state ,
Free Valuations
Cheaper insurance
The mag
The shows
The website
Help and support
Group buy deals
etc etc etc
But mainly you get to go to the shows and be part of the club and meet new folks
But i quess thats not worth Ł35 to some people
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well said Paul!
But tbh, it's pointless trying to defend ANYTHING RSOC on passionford as this is where all the haters and band wagon jumpers are anyway............let them piss and moan as no one that is part of the RSOC and is a valued member gives a shite about the haters anyway.
But tbh, it's pointless trying to defend ANYTHING RSOC on passionford as this is where all the haters and band wagon jumpers are anyway............let them piss and moan as no one that is part of the RSOC and is a valued member gives a shite about the haters anyway.
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well said Paul!
But tbh, it's pointless trying to defend ANYTHING RSOC on passionford as this is where all the haters and band wagon jumpers are anyway............let them piss and moan as no one that is part of the RSOC and is a valued member gives a shite about the haters anyway.
But tbh, it's pointless trying to defend ANYTHING RSOC on passionford as this is where all the haters and band wagon jumpers are anyway............let them piss and moan as no one that is part of the RSOC and is a valued member gives a shite about the haters anyway.
Calm down Scott.
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Well if thats the attitude of people why bother joining lol
I'm quite happy supporting the RSOC by attendeing there shows and paying like every1 else
I like many others don't want the bennifits from the club as they can be found else where
Any way enjoy the show and lets hope it don't rain then
I'm quite happy supporting the RSOC by attendeing there shows and paying like every1 else
I like many others don't want the bennifits from the club as they can be found else where
Any way enjoy the show and lets hope it don't rain then
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exactly dicko
over the years the local groups have become bigger and wanted to be more financially secure, hence the fee they charge
some then think they dont need to go by the rules they agreed to when their group was set up !! ( not a dig at anyone in particular ! )
as for this year and visiting clubs
rs cars will be allowed on visiting car club stands ( member or not ) ( however dicko need to join lol !!!!!!!!!! )
hope this is cleared up now
regards
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over the years the local groups have become bigger and wanted to be more financially secure, hence the fee they charge
some then think they dont need to go by the rules they agreed to when their group was set up !! ( not a dig at anyone in particular ! )
as for this year and visiting clubs
rs cars will be allowed on visiting car club stands ( member or not ) ( however dicko need to join lol !!!!!!!!!! )
hope this is cleared up now
regards
Dave
hes joined now anyway
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so if my car is actually capable of getting there n back.....how do i get in...????.....not a member of rsoc....but i have a cool box full of cans.....
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Well if thats the attitude of people why bother joining lol
I'm quite happy supporting the RSOC by attendeing there shows and paying like every1 else
I like many others don't want the bennifits from the club as they can be found else where
Any way enjoy the show and lets hope it don't rain then
I'm quite happy supporting the RSOC by attendeing there shows and paying like every1 else
I like many others don't want the bennifits from the club as they can be found else where
Any way enjoy the show and lets hope it don't rain then
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i think both you and rod are very narrow minded. you need to look at the bigger picture
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Mint problem solved dicko !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
pete there is no way u will make it there !!!!!!!!!
Did you get it back today then ???????????/
pete there is no way u will make it there !!!!!!!!!
Did you get it back today then ???????????/