mad dog younge

well sorry guys and girls .but i think i am on dickos side here.we have been to a lot of shows this year with the cleveland group .and to be honist i wont be joining the main group for the last show of the year .and for all those peeps saying 30 quid is fuck all ,it would get my nappies for my little boy for the week .a lot of us have took time out from work .ie took hoiladays just to go to shows why the fuck should we pay 30 quid just to have our own car on our own stand , it cost me 20 quid a year to be in our own club

massivewangers

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That's all very true, but surely they should be trying to encourage me to join? Showing off the club and welcoming potential new members with open arms, not asking me to reach into my wallet straight away?

I do get a bit fed up of "It's only £30". To some people, that's more than others, and I don't feel I should be made to join a third owners club, when I'm members of others that do everything I want from a club. I don't want to show with the RSOC, I have loyalties to other clubs, and I'm not bothered about magazines and the like, so I effectively would be paying £30 just to go to Nat Day. I though the whole point of the day was to showcase the RS brand and the RSOC, not say, this is our show, for us, and you can only bring your RS if you give us money first. It almost makes it sound like you want exclusive rights to the things. It should be about enthusiasts and friends getting together and enjoying themselves.

It seems something of a mute point though, as according to others, I can show my 2k with a visiting club without being a full RSOC member, which is good, as joing the RSOC is something I'm not entirely sure I wish to do at this point.

Well, hopefully that clears it up, thanks for your help Rach, and for the emails too, much appreciated

Its Dave

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Well lm not going to go there

Ive had my say and really its up to if you want to join or not

Just if we all had the attitude that im not paying £30 where would the club be? Sorry but one of the main club revenue is membership.

Also one big benefits is agreed valuation and a good club insurance which also covers track day at rsoc shows, worth every penny

Im sure this topic will go on and on

RSRACH

No bother mate. Hope you get sorted with your group for a stand and like I said before, pop over for a burger if you want.... mind I will have to charge you £3 as your not a member of our group... pmsl

Rach

Dicko&Vacant

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weve started a right battle here

ooooooops

RSRACH

LOL LOL You want to come on our stand then? See you tomorrow night.

Captain500rs

What you's are all missing is, that your not prepared to join the national rsoc but want to show yours cars at the RSOC's national day, having not paid a penny towards the club, unlike the members that have paid memberships fees lol. Dont seem right somehow that people come on and say this is wrong, thats wrong etc when them people have not had a thing to do with the national club and have not paid a membership fee to become a member to really have a say on whats wrong etc.

massivewangers

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I sort of see your point...

BUT, what I want to do, is take my Ford Escort, and show it with the club that I have been a member of for a number of years. Just because it has an RS badge on it, doesn't mean I shouldn't be able to stay loyal to the club that I've already paid a membership fee for, and that I will be paying for an entry ticket into the show, which is more expensive than an RSOC member's would be.

I see no problem with that at all to be honest. If I wanted to be on an RSOC regional stand, then fair enough, but I don't, I want to show MY car with MY friends, it shouldn't matter whether it's an RS or a 1.1, if I pay for the ticket, and understand I'll be in the visiting clubs area, that's up to me isn't it

The Youth.

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My opinion is the seme as scotts, Clive (righthooker) and anyone else that believes only full rsoc members should be on local group stands at nat day, it's nothing new to the club and has been this way for many years,.
It's not about £30 for one show, with that you are a member for a year get 6 issues of rallye news and if needed insurance discounts in most cases I have been a member for 14 years now and will be for the next 14 and onwards supporting the club.
really don't understand what the fuss is about if no one pays there membership fee's then they will be no nat day and no rsoc..simple..
lets just support the club for what it is ment for ...enjoying the RS marque..


steve
Cleveland group secretary

righthooker

every year we here the same , getting boring tbh.

Go on a visiting club stand if you want , makes no difference to me .

Would be nice if you would join there group too, or will it be Magpies lol.

Dicko&Vacant

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i dont want to join any other groups

it might be boring, but i would love someone to explain to me why for the past 4yrs ive not renewed my membership and been on stand?

**Claire**

Did you even have an RS last year at National Day?

massivewangers

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Most people have said nothing about being on RSOC regional stands without being a member, I agree with that. If you want to show with a club, you should be a paid member.

There just seems to be a mass of confusion about the rules regarding visiting clubs and whether they're allowed to display RS vehicles and whether those doing so have to be RSOC members.

I think people on this site just like fighting really

righthooker

No but some people will to get on a stand, iirc you where going on the pf stand one year??
We will see how many members we lose to RSmania stand this year?


Because every year people get asked to join the main club , they say they will and dont, yourself included.By then the tickets are ordered so to late.
Its the rsoc mate , your happy to go to events but wont join up , dont give me its the cost bolox because you do ok , you just wont spend it

**Claire**

You would have probably had a more concise reply if you had posted the question on the RSOC forum.

Dicko&Vacant

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Ive never said i wanted to join the RSOC. AND why does everything you mention have to do with money? Its got NOTHING to do with the money whatsoever, ive never once said get me the tickets i'll join the RSOC, as quite simply, i wont.

Dicko&Vacant

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yeah, my mates

**Claire**

So you took your mates car to ND last year and were on the Cleveland club stand and you weren't a member?

Dicko&Vacant

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basically, yeah

righthooker

Dicko, how many times in the last 4 years have you had a car of your own on the club display??
I dont know what happened last year, but in previous years people have had tickets only if they have been members or lied about being members or promosed to join up.

What is it that you have a problem with about joining the rsoc, i know you dont need the insurance as you are a trader lol, but then again i dont use it either.
The magazine is ok , and you get into nat day a bit cheaper.
I join to support the club, and i enjoy the shows and the envolvement,its a social thing for me .

COS 22

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i will confirm the exact rules for this years national day as soon as the organiser calls me tomoro

as for rs mania stand, its probably not a good idea to blatantly offer to space to somebody in the way you did for all to see in a public forum !!

rs mania is for your members and not to be used as a car park

as for the local groups, all cars need to be full members with rs cars and yes i know there were 2 cars last year that were not !!

regards

Dave

**Claire**

Well to me that's just taking the piss, don't mean to offend but that's just how I see it.

Dicko&Vacant

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I enjoy the local groups, thats why i pay money to be a member of our group, but i quite simply dont see the need to pay to be part of the RSOC. If you had to be a full paid member to be in any show on any stand, i would pay it, but not purely for the use of stand at National Day. None of the offers they provide are of any use to me whatsoever, which is why i dont want to join.

For the past 4 years ive had my own car on stand for 3 of them

massivewangers

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I have asked the question of someone in the RSOC, just waiting for an answer.

I only started asking questions here, as I was reading this and it came up.

Then the fight started

stebbo748

Who the fuck do the RSOC think they are telling people where they can park their own cars ??? SURELY it would make a better show with more cars, more people attending and maybe the RSOC would gain more new members rather than saying "It's our stand or not at all !!!" Sounds like a fucking 7 year old "It's my football and you are not playing !!!" No wonder people don't want to join....and as for the regional clubs I've been to....if you like being ignored by people who are far too far up their own arse fill your boots.....


Regards Stebbo:a ngry:

righthooker

Mate you have supported the club all year, but rules are rules and this year they will be upheld on our side, they are the main club rules.

as or the nappies , get a fucking grip, the money you spend on the rs and drink , i dont think you will notice another 30 bar lol

righthooker

pathetic rant, you have no idea .

lincolnrs

Funny thread this!

Just to clear a few things up I have been organising the Oddkiddcreations stand in the VISITING CAR CLUBS AREA for the past 5 yrs and every year we have a great selection of RS CARS!!! on display.
There has never been a problem with this and half of us ain't members either of the RSOC due to what ever reasons.
I am a memeber of my local RS group but not the National RSOC that is why I choose to have my RS on display on the Oddkidd Stand as do many others.

I have got the booking forms here in front of me for this yr and it DOES NOT SAY RS CARS ARE NOT ALLOWED ON VISITING CAR CLUB STANDS!
And when I was sent the forms from Ricky wood he knows we all have RS cars on there so thats why its not a problem.
And lets face it if they wern't allowed on the stands half the show would be empty!

Thats why I do laugh cause of the shit that happens on here every yr!

COS 22

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lol at stebbo

the rsoc pay for the venue !

i think thats maybe why they say who parks what where !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

stebbo748

So if I parked my RS on a stand of MY choice where would the money go to ??? Oh yeah the RSOC.....so what's the problem ??? Which ever way you look at it they will generate revenue from me and others instead of trying to alienate us.

Regards Stebbo

lincolnrs

They do mate but they make it back through the ticket prices not just memberships through the yr!

Hence the reason for visiting car clubs cause with out the other clubs there you may as well hold the show somewhere smaller lol.

Cause all said and done the RS Stands are only on the melbourne hairpin section of the track!

stebbo748

I have an opinion as much as anyone else on here like it or not....


Regards Stebbo

ESCYSCOTT

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i'm not spitting my dummy mate, am just defending the principles and rules to which myself and all other paid up members of the RSOC are happy to abide by. I pay to be a member of the club because I am a TRUE RS enthusiast and why should I pay for my privilages and have other people get them for free then still call the club and it's members. We as a group took on board what was said at last years AGM about charging our members to be a part of our group and we since abolished it and it has attracted more members to which they have ended up joining the main RSOC too.

If you's don't want to pay to join the club and have issues with the rules then don't come on the forums and preach your sour grapes to everyone else as I don't think people wanna hear it, simples.!!

COS 22

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lincoln

i arrange the melbourne loop !

mad dog younge

clive i do spend a lot of money on drink .its my hobby not yours .as for spending money on my rs .last time i counted it totaled up to about 400 quid in the car .dont forget not all of our group have good jobs .............................

righthooker

Is that right then, the bit about "rs cars" on visiting club stands.
The part about them having being main rsoc members??

righthooker

Dont get me started younge, we are talking £30, it is FOOK all.

I dont have a good job, i just work very hard , there is a diference , i also have all my own bills to pay so zip it lol

mad dog younge

30 quid is fuck all .that is part of my phone bill for the garage .and clive i will not zip it .you know how hard it is working for your self in the first few years .all im saying is we .the cleveland group pay for our member ship .then our jackets then the t shirts .then we have to join the main club to put our cars on our stand thats all.my dummy is back in lol

ESCYSCOTT

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to be part of a Local RS Owners club AND wanting to be part of ND etc, your membership to the club should come first and foremost before any of your local group fees, shirts or jackets imo!!

dangerbrian

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pmsl at this thread