How can i tell if i have a proper 200 Block or a Turkish one ?

Steve

 

They have 99 cast on block on drivers side,if i remember correctly,a lot of new blocks that came direct from cosworth,woodfords etc a few years ago were 99 blocks,but ment to be ok under 500 bhp

cheeRS stu

 

I never knew that.

 

Well it wont be going near 500bhp LOL

Will dig it out and have a look tomorrow

Why do we play with these old cars

Steve

 

Steve, surely not?? you,re having some shit luck mate at the min......

 

I have had the car apart this week due to needing a helicoil and sorting out other underbonnet issues.
When putting the car back together today my brother and i noticed a small water stain under No3 exhaust port, looked in the head and you could also see some staining, also No3 on the exhaust manifold was white and the other 3 black.
Decided to take the head off and No3 piston had a nice pool of water and antifreeze sitting on top of it
Don't look like any damage to the gasket, the head has a few small cracks around the spark plug.
Might be the block but can't see anything

Steve

 

It,s that new found BOOSTTTT mate that,s done it...

 

as above; exhaust side of the block; number will look like this at the end 99




i think there is alot of people steer of these for the wrong reasons tho. i'd rather have a turkish block than a 205 block

Euan had one in his saff at 550hp, scooby slayer had one at 472bhp, i think Mad Ade has got one and his is 700hp

Matt

 

Well i only have the 200 block so that's the one that will get used LOL

Steve

 

You got yours back from Martin yet Pete ?

Steve

 

Ade has run at circa 600bhp for over 12 months or so, hes hopeing its well heat cycled by now & can take the full 700bhp very soon.

 

Steve,

Your block will be fine, turkish ones can cope with decent power anyway, just when heading to the silly heights of 800bhp + they struggle..


No mate, sometime this week...........

 

well he's just being greedy then! ha

having said that didnt Mad Yum's give up the ghost? or was that because of a liner problem? - cant remember

 

Both Rods and Daves were brand new blocks, and had not been through any heat cycles, so it's suspected that the blocks both flexed due to the mahoosive torque causing the liners to move.

 

mine was brand new and 100 % perfect and reliable 472 bhp but only 342 lbft. was just standard head bolts to.

 

How comes yours only made 342 lbft then m8 ? Or was there anouther issue.....

 

I have a new block but instead of the 99 it has 98 cast,does this make it a turkish block? I was told it was a belgium block?

 

I'm intersted in yours and Rods theory that the blocks get heat cycled.

From what i know of cast iron it needs to be elevated to temps way higher than 100 deg c to be normalized or hardened and any hardening that does occur is limited.

 

Mine is also a 99 block. Should be ok. Standard head bolts still

 

Aint any theory behind anything , Ade will find out if heat cycles & perlonged use make it last with 700bhp, if it dont he will require a new Block. Daves warped in the mid 600's & mine did the same at about 750bhp we know another Tuner has had the same probs at these levels. If we had any theory on these Blocks we would not have used the B****y things .

 

Well my engine builder is on holiday all week

Wont be at Ford Fair now in the 4i

Steve

 

shit luck didnt you have a similar prob with the other block?????

 

The other block was only a normal pinto one with cossie internals and lasted 9 years LOL

The one in the car now is a cossie 205 block and has lasted about 18 months

Oh well, dig out the 200 block and get that all built up.

Do i go for a higher spec though ?????

Steve

 

Of course you go for a higher spec steve. No point in using the 200 block and staying at the same power

 

Chat Chip up to get me the same spec turbo as you then LOL

Steve

 

Chip ^^^^^

 

Dug the block out, casting numbers are 24D91

 

At a guess that would be a 91 block then stevie boy, big power here it comes

Steve

 

whats the 98 then?

 

I've heard that the turkish block only fail due to liners?

I know someone getting a 640bhp engine built using a turkish block

 

Has to be Steve imo, now you have the block mate, seem a tad pointless not to as mentioned above..

 

Didn't use a Turkish block by choise, it was Ranj's engine that l bought and at that time no one knew about the problems.

Its ok now have a original old block

 

Not true, they warp & head gaskets lets go. When measured the rear of my Block dropped away .004" but that was enough. Think Daves went in the middle but not sure.

The person getting that built is not sensible with the information that others are giving out, very expensive if that goes the same way.

 

so is the last 2 digits the year of casting then??

 

Would be nice to know as my 205 block ends in 88

Steve

 

I think so as my 205 block is a 88 and both my 200 blocks are stamped 91

Steve

 

Can anyone explain this 98 one i got then? last 2 digits are 98,i double checked earlier and definetly a 98.

 

whats a virgin EEC4 block worth while we are on the subject of blocks then?

 

£50 Kev... inc delivery and I'll take it.

 

LOL