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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:03 PM
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ive purchased a e36 bmw and stripped it out to track it with a friend but were both liking the idea of abusing it with a bit of drifting etc, ive had a little go of it already but it really needs a lsd so was thinking of welding it as its only a toy but curious of how it will be on a track? cheers
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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if your going slow then it'll try to understeer
but once you get used to and learn to realy throw it into a corner you'll have it sideways every corner
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:12 PM
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so it will be trying to throw me out at speed? ive heard mixed things about them, some say its better at cornering once moving, others say it makes it arse out lol. i want it to be able to drift but yet grip when on track and not kill myself as i aint no DK lol
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Old Jun 11, 2009 | 10:39 PM
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they will throw the back end out more violantly than a lsd or open diff, but once you get used to them they're easy enough to live with,
if anything its low speed that they become hard to live with
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:13 AM
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what engine is it?

having drivven a 2.0l sierra with welded diff every day for over a year, not once has it stepped out at speed unless provoked, they actually handle very well

throw it into a corner and yes, the rear will more than likely break away, but only when you make it.

not once did it do it when i wasnt expecting it

and i dont hang about either
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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For TRACK DAYS, I would say NO, it WILL promote understeer when turning into corners, making only one option reasonably viable: drift it (or handle shite!). Not always welcome on track days..... well, never welcome, lets be honest.

For FUN. hell yeah!!! E30's are big fun with a (MIG Spec) diff, just make sure you always call it a MIG spec/UPRATED () diff
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 12:43 AM
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3 way FTW yo!

Do it
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 04:12 PM
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its only a 320, stripped it out bare, no dash or anything, not expecting it to be super quick but with half a transit load of heavy interior gone i was hoping it would feel ok?
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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Do it my 3dr handled better on track and loved the smoke when asked.

http://s152.photobucket.com/albums/s...t=PHONE097.flv
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:10 PM
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only one way to find out mate. i didnt find that the sierra understeered at all really, even when flat out, or fast in the wet, as that car didnt not handle well anyway lol
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Old Jun 12, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
only one way to find out mate. i didnt find that the sierra understeered at all really, even when flat out, or fast in the wet, as that car didnt not handle well anyway lol
It understeered in my workshop when you crashed it into the little building in the middle

That was at low speed though, it was fine once it was moving.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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It understeered in my workshop when you crashed it into the little building in the middle

That was at low speed though, it was fine once it was moving.
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Old Jun 13, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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pmsl, yes chip. wasnt that from doing a burnout tho lol

on surfaces other than tarmac it would understeer, but only at slow speed

once going a bit quick it was ok. i still crashed it enough tho lol

my advice, do it to a car that cost fuck all and that you dont mind giving the odd dent/scrape. it also helps when the car is not yours lol
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its ok, its all the car was bought for, just a shoddy e36 lol
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Just get on with it bamo you poof
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 03:57 PM
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now now chippa lol, let me know of track days coming up as id like to get out in it lol
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:21 PM
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a few of the nissan boys weld their diffs up for drifting
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:46 PM
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A lad in our group uses his Sierra on track with a welded diff, goes ok. Gets the arse out whenever he can though, lol. Was at Croft last week.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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if its just for track then do it,but if you wanna drive it as a daily then itl be awful,handling will go down the pan
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 05:39 PM
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so far in my sierra with a welded diff, it understeers below20MPH but you dont notice it being any different driving normally upto 70MPH so far for me.
If you have good grip it will be quick and stay grippy but if you have lost traction you wont regain it untill both wheels are straight and have stopped spinning in my limited experience. Also the rear seems more consistant so far. DO IT!
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Its so much more predictabe too.
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Old Jun 15, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by cossiedrift
Its so much more predictabe too.

I found that with my cossie and a welded diff. Just do it Bam.
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Old Jun 16, 2009 | 10:43 PM
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i got to pull my finger out and get round to it, need a battery 1st so i can move it about to do it lol
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