Modifying Sierra's for more steering lock.
08-12-2004, 12:56 AM
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Modifying Sierra's for more steering lock.
Its been said a lot (Marco esp) that Sierras have fuck all steering lock compared to a lot of cars so are shite to really drift etc.
Can that be solved easily? Mods to the rack or whatever
Can that be solved easily? Mods to the rack or whatever
08-12-2004, 01:01 AM
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Well I know you can get racks with different ratios from burtons.... but they reduce it. Dunno if someone does a longer one....
Supose if you have the rack from another car and are quite clever about it you could quite easily transplant it...
Supose if you have the rack from another car and are quite clever about it you could quite easily transplant it...
08-12-2004, 01:04 AM
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No you fool 
Burtons etc sell a quick rack, ie less turns from lock to lock (non PAS only tho), thats not the issue, i mean how much of an angle the wheels are at full lock, they not enough, or so they say...
Them racks dont change that (AFAIK)
Burtons etc sell a quick rack, ie less turns from lock to lock (non PAS only tho), thats not the issue, i mean how much of an angle the wheels are at full lock, they not enough, or so they say...
Them racks dont change that (AFAIK)
08-12-2004, 06:37 AM
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it is not brilliant to start with, but when you start putting wider tyres with much bigger rims on it, it get's worse. even if you change to a rack with more travel, or modify the existing one by having a few more slots cut into the rack, it wouldn't help on mine as the inner edge of the tyre would foul on the inner wing.
would be ok on rally cars where you probably stay on 15" rims, or if you were building one specifically for drifting.
would be ok on rally cars where you probably stay on 15" rims, or if you were building one specifically for drifting.
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08-12-2004, 08:58 AM
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i'm sure that you can take out the stops if you want, but i think you'll hit inner wings with the tyres unless you have 13" rims and skinny tyres.
the size of rims wouldn't matter on a drift car, as you don't need big brakes.
and / or you could have wheels with more offset to the outside that would normally foul the arches on a road car with sensible spring rates if you run bastard hard front springs. not sure if you want that for a drift car?
the size of rims wouldn't matter on a drift car, as you don't need big brakes.
and / or you could have wheels with more offset to the outside that would normally foul the arches on a road car with sensible spring rates if you run bastard hard front springs. not sure if you want that for a drift car?
08-12-2004, 10:28 AM
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my m8 andy put a 2.0 glx rack on his , he had to remove the inner arches and it still touched slightly but it did have a slightly smaller turning circle than my shaff . the only problem was the steering wheel had to do more revolutions lock to lock hence making it less responsive .
i spose if you want an everyday driver it would make life easier but for handling feel, it wouldnt help as it provides less feel due to the finer gearing in the rack ! if that makes sense
i spose if you want an everyday driver it would make life easier but for handling feel, it wouldnt help as it provides less feel due to the finer gearing in the rack ! if that makes sense
08-12-2004, 10:37 AM
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Would i fuck ever put a non cossie rack on, cossie racks are very good quick racks, not much turn lock to lock, madness to put one on with more turns lock to lock, thas worse (if we still ttalking bout drifting) than having less full lock in the firstplace
08-12-2004, 10:40 AM
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pmsl he's a tight coont tho
in his defence tho , he has put a proper one on it now .
only cos he bent the glx one after slapping a kurb and snapping a wheel
he's a tight coont tho in his defence tho , he has put a proper one on it now .
only cos he bent the glx one after slapping a kurb and snapping a wheel
08-12-2004, 05:10 PM
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just finding my feet
my cossie has a fooking shite turning circle but has a very quick turn, my cabby though has a good turning circle but the rack ya have to turb for days and theres no power steering either
why could ford never do a job properly
why could ford never do a job properly
08-12-2004, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by B19-TRB
Fookin fairies!
Turning circle is excellent on a cossie! Well rwd 1s anyway! Full lock boot in drop clutch!
Turning circle is excellent on a cossie! Well rwd 1s anyway! Full lock boot in drop clutch!
then on back of a flat bed
08-12-2004, 07:40 PM
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a bit off topic i know, but compared to a evo 7, a sierra is like a london black cab in comparison, now they just have the worst turning circle i have ever seen.
08-12-2004, 08:42 PM
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ok well these will only be of use to you if you have a cossie to compare them as there pics of full lock from teh wheels and arches, the wheels are 7 x 15 and have 185 x 65 x 15's on so get looking
may be of use , but has truly got massive lock to lock in 2.8 turns !!
may be of use , but has truly got massive lock to lock in 2.8 turns !!
08-12-2004, 08:42 PM
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yo Steve
as you know the problem is ,they haven't got enough lock you can drift them easy but the point i am making is if the back end comes out too far your not getting them back due to the issue of the lock
we are not on about how many turns lock to lock
for the peeps that don't know what we are on about ..........
when you compair the lock to lock say on a mk1/mk2 escort you will know what i mean ..........the mk1/mk2 escort is a bit like shoping trolly wheels the lock to lock on those are fantsitc ....you can get the back end out about 90 degress and get it back with the sierra you won't
I know Mark has done a very good mod to his i won't say what it is because it's Marks idea his mod and it works
Marco
as you know the problem is ,they haven't got enough lock you can drift them easy but the point i am making is if the back end comes out too far your not getting them back due to the issue of the lock
we are not on about how many turns lock to lock
for the peeps that don't know what we are on about .......... when you compair the lock to lock say on a mk1/mk2 escort you will know what i mean ..........the mk1/mk2 escort is a bit like shoping trolly wheels the lock to lock on those are fantsitc ....you can get the back end out about 90 degress and get it back with the sierra you won't
I know Mark has done a very good mod to his i won't say what it is because it's Marks idea his mod and it works
Marco
08-12-2004, 10:05 PM
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see i run 215/40-17's on the front with 8x17" and they do catch on the inner arch but not on the outer because they have been modded .... but i still have the same probs is the lock theres not enough .............what if i was to have a longer rack with more lock to move the wheels out a bit further , i have adjust TCA's would this be a problem
Marco
see i run 215/40-17's on the front with 8x17" and they do catch on the inner arch but not on the outer because they have been modded .... but i still have the same probs is the lock theres not enough .............what if i was to have a longer rack with more lock to move the wheels out a bit further , i have adjust TCA's would this be a problem
Marco
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