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Old 28-03-2009, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by The Diva
Had my life not unexpectedly turned to shit, i had biiiiiiiiiig plans for her James.....

But i`m really glad she ended up with you mate and not someone who would just bung a random motor in and run her into the ground
And then break it and then the car is gone.
Old 28-03-2009, 01:12 AM
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cheers diva i remember silky16v saying at the time you were going to buy it ,i hope things are looking up for you now mate
Old 28-03-2009, 01:15 AM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
cheers diva i remember silky16v saying at the time you were going to buy it ,i hope things are looking up for you now mate
Cheers mate..... all`s good now and i`m looking forward to the show season

Sapphy is almost ready, and i`m trying not to blow it up before it gets to a few shows
Old 28-03-2009, 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Yet people pay massive amounts for mk1/mk2 escorts..... Its not like they are 'better' than an evo or m3 is it?

Its all about how much people are prepared to pay and if they want to pay lots for a Sapphire Cosworth, then thats their decision.
that reply is spot on not eveyone wants japcrap

anyway what is with all this breaking crack that everyone keeps going on about its the same old thing everytime and its bullshit, every cos or rs that gets broken helps to keep another car on the road.....

does it really, more like how many good solid example shells get scrapped just to keep the rest of the sheads on the road, there is alot of rotton rs models on the roads now i bet there has been better one's broke up and crushed for scrap...

if i remember there was 2 40,000 mile cos on here for breaking, same goes for the rs500 yea it will keep another going but there is sod all of these rs 500s left now in the end there will be shit loads of rs 500 parts for just a few genuine one's..


oh sorry its all about money isnt it
Old 28-03-2009, 03:31 AM
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Originally Posted by james kiely
you wont be getting this one back mark
At this stage it had cost about 20k (Not including the original purchase price when I bought it at 18 months old - Norris Motorsport 450bhp Engine, Quaife Box, Quaife Diff, AP Brakes, Suspension, Pro-Alloy - Intercooler - Pre Cooler - Rad - Fans, Bailey Tanks, Breather Systems, Special Magnex Exhaust System, Then Budweis had the rose jointed rear beam fitted, and Autronic Management System............. All in a concourse shell with NO rust at all, as she was fully waxoil injected when I first purchased her. Probably one of the most complete sapphires out there, and well within the top ten sapphire left............... And it was broken.

Thanks to James she's about to re-emerge even better. Good Luck with the Re-Assembly. If I'd know that she would have been broken within a year of me selling her. There's no way in the world I'd have sold her in the first place. I didn't need the money at the time, but when I found out she was being broken up to sell as parts, I didn't have the money to buy her back, which I desperately tried to raise but at the time couldn't.

Is Nothing Sacred ! ! !

And people wonder why there's no decent ones left............. Because they were broken for their modified parts, and the fact that they were a totally mint car seemed to be forgotten.

When there's no good ones left, maybe people will realize what they once had. Another few years and people will be asking big money (And Getting It) for the really mint ones.

I don't blame the people that broke them........... They bought the cars, and it's down to them what they do with them. Just a shame that some good ones have been lost.

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Old 28-03-2009, 08:03 AM
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Someone broke Jim's old Saff? WHY?
Old 28-03-2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rab
Someone broke Jim's old Saff? WHY?
because its a car and there was profit hanging out of it
Old 28-03-2009, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Green
At this stage it had cost about 20k (Not including the original purchase price when I bought it at 18 months old - Norris Motorsport 450bhp Engine, Quaife Box, Quaife Diff, AP Brakes, Suspension, Pro-Alloy - Intercooler - Pre Cooler - Rad - Fans, Bailey Tanks, Breather Systems, Special Magnex Exhaust System, Then Budweis had the rose jointed rear beam fitted, and Autronic Management System............. All in a concourse shell with NO rust at all, as she was fully waxoil injected when I first purchased her. Probably one of the most complete sapphires out there, and well within the top ten sapphire left............... And it was broken.

Thanks to James she's about to re-emerge even better. Good Luck with the Re-Assembly. If I'd know that she would have been broken within a year of me selling her. There's no way in the world I'd have sold her in the first place. I didn't need the money at the time, but when I found out she was being broken up to sell as parts, I didn't have the money to buy her back, which I desperately tried to raise but at the time couldn't.

Is Nothing Sacred ! ! !

And people wonder why there's no decent ones left............. Because they were broken for their modified parts, and the fact that they were a totally mint car seemed to be forgotten.

When there's no good ones left, maybe people will realize what they once had. Another few years and people will be asking big money (And Getting It) for the really mint ones.

I don't blame the people that broke them........... They bought the cars, and it's down to them what they do with them. Just a shame that some good ones have been lost.
It definitely had all the proper bits on Jim - lovely looking car
Old 28-03-2009, 12:29 PM
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nothing wrong with scrapping crappy sierras. it means theres more engines to convert decent well built cars.
Old 28-03-2009, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
nothing wrong with scrapping crappy sierras. it means theres more engines to convert decent well built cars.
Such as shitty old beemers, yeah quality!
Old 28-03-2009, 12:50 PM
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thomps, there aint no chance your getting my saff
Old 28-03-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BRIGSPORT
Such as shitty old beemers, yeah quality!
I always go out and say wow look at the bmw,evo ect. NOT. They are like clitoris's every cunt's got one. The amount of look's you get in a sapphire or any cosworth is worth every penny to keep them on the road.The sapphire was the only cosworth i ever wanted and i would not swap mine for anything. Each to there own but saying a 3 door is better than a escort ect is childish. We own cosworth's so should share the same passion for all cosworth's . Moan over lol
Old 28-03-2009, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by damian harris
I always go out and say wow look at the bmw,evo ect. NOT. They are like clitoris's every cunt's got one. The amount of look's you get in a sapphire or any cosworth is worth every penny to keep them on the road.The sapphire was the only cosworth i ever wanted and i would not swap mine for anything. Each to there own but saying a 3 door is better than a escort ect is childish. We own cosworth's so should share the same passion for all cosworth's . Moan over lol

well said damien
Old 28-03-2009, 01:07 PM
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how much do u usually give for sapps thomps?a rough guide so to speak
Old 28-03-2009, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by damian harris
I always go out and say wow look at the bmw,evo ect. NOT. They are like clitoris's every cunt's got one. The amount of look's you get in a sapphire or any cosworth is worth every penny to keep them on the road.The sapphire was the only cosworth i ever wanted and i would not swap mine for anything. Each to there own but saying a 3 door is better than a escort ect is childish. We own cosworth's so should share the same passion for all cosworth's . Moan over lol

not saying that sapphire is a bad car mate i have owned mine for 8 years just saying that they are looked down on compared to the 3 door/escos bud
Old 28-03-2009, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
at this rate there aint going to be any left
Dare i suggest you stop breaking them then Andy?

Youve personally broken 2 that I can think of...
Old 28-03-2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by AJC
thomps, there aint no chance your getting my saff
Old 28-03-2009, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
how much do u usually give for sapps thomps?a rough guide so to speak
Depends on speck mate, £400 for a good one
Old 28-03-2009, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomps..
Depends on speck mate, £400 for a good one

lol well thats £100 more then i have offered for mine
Old 28-03-2009, 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Dare i suggest you stop breaking them then Andy?

Youve personally broken 2 that I can think of...
stu, yes ive broke 2 in 3 years, one being accident damaged and beyond repair,

the other one being rotten, blown engine and gearbox,

there was nothin but to break them, im talking about good solid working cars being stripped
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Originally Posted by AJC
stu, yes ive broke 2 in 3 years, one being accident damaged and beyond repair,

the other one being rotten, blown engine and gearbox,

there was nothin but to break them, im talking about good solid working cars being stripped
Have a think about my offer for the escort.
You know you want to sell it
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id rather wipe my ass with a brick!!!!! lol
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Originally Posted by AJC
id rather wipe my ass with a brick!!!!! lol
A brick??? Get your chap to do it lol
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How much for both then??
Pm me if you like..
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50k for them both......
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thomps, what do yuo do with saff shells
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Originally Posted by AJC
thomps, what do yuo do with saff shells
Berry them........
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Originally Posted by AJC
50k for them both......
Old 28-03-2009, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Thomps..
Berry them........

That actually made me laugh
Old 28-03-2009, 02:55 PM
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you can have both my cars for 20k
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Cossies will go the same way as the mk1 mk2 escorts,thousands of escorts got scrapped now the old escorts are in demand big time, hence prices,and people are restoring cars which most people wouldnt even bother because they are so rotton,i bet in 10 years time people will be saying i wish i never scrapped that saff shell when they see how much they will be going for
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Heres is my cossie.It needs paint work now cause there is a few rust spots on the rear arches.Its been a good car apart from the few faults i had with it when i bought it.
Old 28-03-2009, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Heres is my cossie.It needs paint work now cause there is a few rust spots on the rear arches.Its been a good car apart from the few faults i had with it when i bought it.

For some reason i only like them wheels on white ones!the just look really good on white ones!looks a really nice straight one mate!even better with that spot on air filter i bet under the bonnet lol!
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
Cossies will go the same way as the mk1 mk2 escorts,thousands of escorts got scrapped now the old escorts are in demand big time, hence prices,and people are restoring cars which most people wouldnt even bother because they are so rotton,i bet in 10 years time people will be saying i wish i never scrapped that saff shell when they see how much they will be going for

i hear what your saying but i aint so sure with the sapp cossie,they were mass produced to a certain extent 12k 2wd and 12.5k 4x4 (although not sure how many rhd)out of that number would imagine 9k2wd and 9.5k 4x4?problem with the sapp it has not the rally/racing backup like the 3door/rs500 and escos!this imo is the main reason with the number they were produced is that the sapp is the (lesser)cossie
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I wont ly and big up my car.It needs a bit of tlc but it gets used most days and its sat on the drive every day getting covered in snow rain.Did this filter whistle on your car cause it does on mine lol.It was the same filter as my old one and that didnt do it lol.It sounds mint though hee hee.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
I wont ly and big up my car.It needs a bit of tlc but it gets used most days and its sat on the drive every day getting covered in snow rain.Did this filter whistle on your car cause it does on mine lol.It was the same filter as my old one and that didnt do it lol.It sounds mint though hee hee.

used to hear the turbo whistle/suck noise chap from what i remember that is all
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i think when the time comes mine will probably end up being broken for parts as i think itl be worth far more that way, got a gripper diff going in next weekend thats another £700 in it.
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Originally Posted by damian harris
I always go out and say wow look at the bmw,evo ect. NOT. They are like clitoris's every cunt's got one. The amount of look's you get in a sapphire or any cosworth is worth every penny to keep them on the road.The sapphire was the only cosworth i ever wanted and i would not swap mine for anything. Each to there own but saying a 3 door is better than a escort ect is childish. We own cosworth's so should share the same passion for all cosworth's . Moan over lol

Agreed!!!
Old 28-03-2009, 09:02 PM
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saphs are brillient looking cars.........i honestly love them,id have them over the escort everytime
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Originally Posted by RETRO_AL
Cossies will go the same way as the mk1 mk2 escorts,thousands of escorts got scrapped now the old escorts are in demand big time, hence prices,and people are restoring cars which most people wouldnt even bother because they are so rotton,i bet in 10 years time people will be saying i wish i never scrapped that saff shell when they see how much they will be going for
The key is ...... that it's a four door saloon car that with a few mods, can wipe the arse of most supercars.

It "will" go the way of the Mk1 & Mk2 Escort, and in ten years time people will be searching for anything thats restorable and has most of the original parts still on it.

You've only got to look at www.turbosport.co.uk (Restorations) to see the extremes people go too, to restore what most people would have sent to the crusher....... Because there's not enough left. Back in the eighties, I had a scrappy pick up my 2dr MK2 Escort because it failed it's MOT on rotten sills, rear spring hangers, and strut tops corroded. The car was very straight with no dents, and I scrapped it. Now, the same car would have sold for well over 1k to the boys who restore them. At the time, the scrappy gave me £60 for it, coz I had a receipt for a recon box fitted six months prior.

No one knows the score on the MK1/Mk2 Escorts better than "RETRO AL". And I'm sure he's right about the Sapphires.

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