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03-03-2009, 05:26 PM
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Someone PLEASE help :(:(:(
Got my car back from the garage again. This is now 3 months that it's been off the road.
No sooner was it in the drive, it cut out AGAIN! SAME problem for the past 3 months. We keep thinking we've resolved it, and it keeps bloody happening!
When it cuts out, the fuel pump remains on. Then the car won't start. Sometimes if left for a while, and i try and start it again, the fuel pump will prime as normal, and the car will start. It could run for a minute, or an hour. Then it will cut out again, with the fuel pump still running.
Car was sparking and fuel was getting as far as the injectors.
Auto Electrician said it was the cracnk shaft sensor. Since then, we've replaced:
2 crank shaft sensors, 2 fuel pump relays, the fuel pump and sender, fuel pressure regulator and still the same.
Had the auto-eclectrician out again today, was at it for 45 minutes. Apparently his computer or whatever he uses couldnt be hooked up to the car as it's too old. The mechanic was hovering about and said that the injectors weren't firing. The AE was in and out of the car and eventually got the car fired up.
They turned the car off and on about a half-dozen times no bother at all. When I picked the car up, it was fine, then as I say, got it in the drive and it cut out. It still won't start now, over an hour later.
Fuel pump still coming on, and staying on.
Surely this isn't the first time this has happened? There must be someone out there who has some idea as to what it could be??? I'm really getting to the end of my tether with it
It's a 1.6 CVH EFi turbo for those who don't know
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No sooner was it in the drive, it cut out AGAIN! SAME problem for the past 3 months. We keep thinking we've resolved it, and it keeps bloody happening!
When it cuts out, the fuel pump remains on. Then the car won't start. Sometimes if left for a while, and i try and start it again, the fuel pump will prime as normal, and the car will start. It could run for a minute, or an hour. Then it will cut out again, with the fuel pump still running.
Car was sparking and fuel was getting as far as the injectors.
Auto Electrician said it was the cracnk shaft sensor. Since then, we've replaced:
2 crank shaft sensors, 2 fuel pump relays, the fuel pump and sender, fuel pressure regulator and still the same.
Had the auto-eclectrician out again today, was at it for 45 minutes. Apparently his computer or whatever he uses couldnt be hooked up to the car as it's too old. The mechanic was hovering about and said that the injectors weren't firing. The AE was in and out of the car and eventually got the car fired up.
They turned the car off and on about a half-dozen times no bother at all. When I picked the car up, it was fine, then as I say, got it in the drive and it cut out. It still won't start now, over an hour later.
Fuel pump still coming on, and staying on.
Surely this isn't the first time this has happened? There must be someone out there who has some idea as to what it could be??? I'm really getting to the end of my tether with it
It's a 1.6 CVH EFi turbo for those who don't know
Cheers
Keir
03-03-2009, 05:49 PM
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Theres loads it could be, but unless oemone is there at the time who knows what they are doing it's no use.
Surely if someone has had, and presumably charged for three months work then they should put right what it was put in there for, or at the very least a refund.
tabetha
Surely if someone has had, and presumably charged for three months work then they should put right what it was put in there for, or at the very least a refund.
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03-03-2009, 07:31 PM
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It hasn't been in the garage for 3 months, just not been running for 3 months.
I've not been charged that much from the garage.
My mate who's usually a good Fordy mechanic is stumped, and that's now a second mechanic who's stumped.
Think I'm gonna swap the ECU and see if that makes any difference, but I would have imagined that the AE would have been able to tell if that was goosed, but apparently he couldnt because my car is too old for his equipment
I've not been charged that much from the garage.
My mate who's usually a good Fordy mechanic is stumped, and that's now a second mechanic who's stumped.
Think I'm gonna swap the ECU and see if that makes any difference, but I would have imagined that the AE would have been able to tell if that was goosed, but apparently he couldnt because my car is too old for his equipment
03-03-2009, 08:35 PM
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what about leaking injectors?? a mate of mine had a problem like this a few years ago,the car would run fine,he'd leave it overnight,then had all the same problems you describe,the injectors where slowly dripping fuel when the car was left for a period of time.
not saying this is definatley your cars fault,just an idea.
not saying this is definatley your cars fault,just an idea.
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I'd Thoroughly check the wiring loom especially where it goes through the bulk head. could well be chaffed through somewhere or rotten connection.
Also, you say the fuel pump works etc have you had the fuel pressure and regulator checked? I had the same fault on my saph a few years back and I found the regulator return to the fuel tank was blocked, would run then cut out...replaced reg all good
Also, you say the fuel pump works etc have you had the fuel pressure and regulator checked? I had the same fault on my saph a few years back and I found the regulator return to the fuel tank was blocked, would run then cut out...replaced reg all good
03-03-2009, 08:51 PM
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Hmmmm just had a thought, where is the reg on yours? I take it the problem is with the orion, I think the reg is by the fuel pump underneath at the rear???? Correct me if im wrong!
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03-03-2009, 08:58 PM
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My old white series 2 used to do this, and im sorry but your AE must have shite equipment because mine was on a H plate and he diagnosed ecu pretty much straight away, changed it, and it was fine after that, so my bet is on your ECU, if its on OFAC I have one for sale 
04-03-2009, 07:13 AM
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I'd Thoroughly check the wiring loom especially where it goes through the bulk head. could well be chaffed through somewhere or rotten connection.
Also, you say the fuel pump works etc have you had the fuel pressure and regulator checked? I had the same fault on my saph a few years back and I found the regulator return to the fuel tank was blocked, would run then cut out...replaced reg all good
Also, you say the fuel pump works etc have you had the fuel pressure and regulator checked? I had the same fault on my saph a few years back and I found the regulator return to the fuel tank was blocked, would run then cut out...replaced reg all good
The ECU is just standard Orion Ghia one, although I have an OFAB from a FRST in the garage waiting to go in
It's not chipped dude, just standard ecu
04-03-2009, 07:22 AM
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Should you be trying to run a turbo car on a non turbo standard Orion Ghia ecu? - could this be the problem
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