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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:13 PM
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Looking for a new tv.

A samsung plasma 50 inch is 800 quid.

A 42 inch samsung lcd is about the same,

Which is better quality picture, and how long should a plasma last?
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:21 PM
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anything bigger than 40" and you really are into plasma territory, LCD just cant cut it in comparison

a 100hz plasma 42" looks so much clearly than the equivalent lcd, especially watching non HD broadcasts of football n stuff.

new generations of plasma are a lot more reliable too, they dnt suffer the dreaded 'burn-in' due to the pixel refreshment, and they run a lot cooler too

so if ur thinkin 50", go plasma dude
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I believe plasma's suffer with screen burn?

my mate told me anything up too 42 ish get an LCD, but if you want bigger then get a plasma...

I only have a 40inch LCD anyway, can't fault it
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LCD or plasma?

Death or cake.



Plasma all the way - far better on movement and blacks above 40"

And yes, I do know what I'm talking about, it's not opinion - I've been designing the equipment your films have been post produced on for 20 years!
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:38 PM
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LCD or plasma?
And yes, I do know what I'm talking about, it's not opinion - I've been designing the equipment your films have been post produced on for 20 years!
Yeh! Well, I asked a greasy spotty little employee at Currys and he said your wrong, so there!!
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How long would it take to screen burn? A few hours left on 1 sky channel. Or an hour a day of 1 chnnel etc?
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Originally Posted by Sidewayz
I believe plasma's suffer with screen burn?

my mate told me anything up too 42 ish get an LCD, but if you want bigger then get a plasma...

I only have a 40inch LCD anyway, can't fault it
not quite true mate my sony plasma is 5yrs old now and it has a screen shift function that stops this.
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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i cant fault either of my 50ins plasmas, there only LG but they are nice, it also keeps the rooms warm too which is a bonus !!!
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not quite true mate my sony plasma is 5yrs old now and it has a screen shift function that stops this.

funny that, my mate who works for Sony, told me that plasma's suffer with screen burn....


goes the guy who goes around the country selling/doing Demo's of there products is wrong....
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Old Feb 5, 2009 | 09:10 PM
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i'm just about to buy a panasonic viera 42inch plasma but the screen burn thing is worring me.. the pc will be hooked up and i m ure i ll leave it on.. i know i can use a screen saver but they are a bit shit! will i get a windows start button on my screen?
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if u try and leave any sort of menu function up on any up to date LCD/plasma, the menu wil shift around constantly to avoid burn in

plus if u zoom in on a plasma, u can watch the pixels refreshing themselves, shifting about, again to avoid broadcast logo's burning in

old units used to, newer 1s much less likely to
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pioneer/panasonic LCD

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Most agree Plasma still has the edge picture wise for 40" plus....

Very few LCD can do 'Black levels' to match a good Plasma set, and many mid-priced LCD' suffer motion blur compared to Plas'

LCD tends to be brighter, but this can be used to mask other defects & never had any issues with lack of brightness on Plasmas i've owned. Screen burn on modern, quality Plasma screens now will only happen after a very long period of fixed image (most have built in sensors to reduce)

LCD/Plasma should not be the choice, more importantly check for 1080p, 24fps, 100hz, conectivity & contrast etc...

Buy a issue of What Video & Hi-Def of Which Plasma/LCD before you even think about buying.....will be the best Ł3.99 you ever spent.
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if u try and leave any sort of menu function up on any up to date LCD/plasma, the menu wil shift around constantly to avoid burn in

plus if u zoom in on a plasma, u can watch the pixels refreshing themselves, shifting about, again to avoid broadcast logo's burning in

old units used to, newer 1s much less likely to
Yes menu's etc will move around, but with sky they all have logo's in the top corner, these don't move at all. You know, Living, discovery, etc etc. This is my worry.

Also, i've just been round my Grandparents, they've got a 46" samsung LCD HD 100hz or whatever it is, the quality of the picture is VERY good, will a Plasma be better than this?

This is the 1 i'm looking at,
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/pro...PS50A457P1DXXU
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Wouldn't touch that mate.......

Only 760p, crap contrast ratio, no 24fps & pretty certain it's not true 100hz (widely reported after testing)

As I said above, before you spend your hard earned' you need to get the odd Which/What mag' or two, otherwise your just buying blind and the chance of getting a good 'un is probably 1 in 100......
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
Yes menu's etc will move around, but with sky they all have logo's in the top corner, these don't move at all. You know, Living, discovery, etc etc. This is my worry.

Also, i've just been round my Grandparents, they've got a 46" samsung LCD HD 100hz or whatever it is, the quality of the picture is VERY good, will a Plasma be better than this?

This is the 1 i'm looking at,
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/pro...PS50A457P1DXXU
the issue of logos burning in is as i stated before, the pixels are constantly moving and refreshing, it avoids the burn in issue, so if u zoom in as stated, u can watch the lil fcukers moving around all over the shop, i was hypnotized by it at my mates a while back whilst blind drunk n messing with the remote

i think most manufacturers have had to sort the issue 1 way or another otherwise they would put themselves out of business with warranty claims
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Dont to death an google has all the answer but;

at that size plasma everytime

and newer models DO NOT suffer from burn and my 3 year old LG has never

if you can afford it then panny is the only choice unless you really flush then the pioneer;s are the daddies
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Originally Posted by Sidewayz
funny that, my mate who works for Sony, told me that plasma's suffer with screen burn....


goes the guy who goes around the country selling/doing Demo's of there products is wrong....

tis funny cos i aint had a problem with it,and we have 3 kids so the bugger hardly gets switched off!

maybe mine is a exception....
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ifi pause the sky for longer than about 5 minutes, the little mark stays there for the next 30 or so minutes as it slowly fades away

but if i turnt he telly off then it stays there until i've turned the telly back on again, then it goes

so i've taken to leaving the telly on for a few minutes to start it shiting beforewitching off

subtitles also tend to leave little lighter rectanlges on the screen
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Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:01 AM
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i bought a panasonic viera 1080 42 inch plasma and i couldnt fault it at all. a factor too is the size of your room. there is a recommended distance that you should be from the screen which affects picture quality. no point having a 50 inch screen in a 2 up 2 down sitting room
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I got a 40" Samsung 1080p LCD and regretted it almost instantly as I wanted bigger. The quality is awesome and all that but I love watching films on HUGE screens and I love toys.

I was looking around for a 50" screen then realised it's like when you start tuning a car, you get bored with it quickly and always want more. So why not start with the biggest you can get and do it properly with a projector?

These are great value, 1080p and depending on the size of your room can project up to around 15 foot screen size. No matter what anyone says though, they're not ideal for watching unless your room is a bit darker [curtains drawn and/or at night] which is why a normal TV behind it is a good idea.

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as per Dojj, most plasma's will 'ghost' a bit, ie; if left on 1 frame for a while & then changed you can make out the old image for a few secs.
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Got a 42" panasonic PZ85 and can't fault it either. 1080p with blue ray is superb, and on screen burn thing, play GTA4 for a few hours and the little compass thing on the bottom left will stay round for a while, but does fade away eventually..
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Originally Posted by c.fogarty
Wouldn't touch that mate.......

Only 760p, crap contrast ratio, no 24fps & pretty certain it's not true 100hz (widely reported after testing)

As I said above, before you spend your hard earned' you need to get the odd Which/What mag' or two, otherwise your just buying blind and the chance of getting a good 'un is probably 1 in 100......
I'll have a look in WHSmiths or something for the mag, but surely there not likely to be reviewing TV's every week?

This 1 looks a bit better then, visually it doesn't though.

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/pro.../specification
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My Samsung 50" plasma is a fucker for screen burn. 90" of the logos on channels are transparent, but ones such as discovery turbo arent. If you watch turbo for half an hour or more then expect it to do damage.

However if I don't watch turbo for a couple of weeks then the image does go!
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I spent the extra cash & got a Pioneer 50 plasma. Its the mutt's nut's.
I've had plasma's since the early years, & screen burn isn't an issue as long as you don't leave it on a static image for hours.

Just take care of it and run it in properly & you'll be fine.
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Originally Posted by Rich170
My Samsung 50" plasma is a fucker for screen burn. 90" of the logos on channels are transparent, but ones such as discovery turbo arent. If you watch turbo for half an hour or more then expect it to do damage.

However if I don't watch turbo for a couple of weeks then the image does go!
Leave it with a snow storm for a few minutes & it should go.
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i have a 42" Pioneer and do not suffer with screen burn at all, even though my missus will leave it on the sky menu screen constantly
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42" Panasonic Viera Plasma is ace. Well impressed with mine
Not noticed any issues yet with image burn or anything.
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this is the TV i got anyway

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/stor...ory_oid=-34810

really can't fault it, Great spec, 1080p 100hz blah blah blah....
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Panasonic - Makes the complete units, Supplies Toshiba, JVC, Fujitsu and more

Sony do not actually make Plasma's they use Fujitsu/ Hitachi screens

Pioneer owns NEC and has switched production to the NEC lines. The new 50 inch and the 42 inch units are all NEC glass. To tell if a 50 inch is Pioneer or NEC, check the resolution, If 1280 it is Pioneer , If 1365 it is NEC . 42 inch Pioneer Plasma TV is NEC

Philips - Uses Fujitsu/ Hitachi glass screen and most internal components

LG / Zenith - Make their own glass in Korea
Samsung - Makes its own components in Korea

Toshiba- OEM from Panasonic

I would choose Panasonic all the way, these are the best units bar none imho
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Panasonic - Makes the complete units, Supplies Toshiba, JVC, Fujitsu and more

Sony do not actually make Plasma's they use Fujitsu/ Hitachi screens

Pioneer owns NEC and has switched production to the NEC lines. The new 50 inch and the 42 inch units are all NEC glass. To tell if a 50 inch is Pioneer or NEC, check the resolution, If 1280 it is Pioneer , If 1365 it is NEC . 42 inch Pioneer Plasma TV is NEC

Philips - Uses Fujitsu/ Hitachi glass screen and most internal components

LG / Zenith - Make their own glass in Korea
Samsung - Makes its own components in Korea

Toshiba- OEM from Panasonic

I would choose Panasonic all the way, these are the best units bar none imho

i disagree my pioneer is 10x better than my parents panasonic!
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i disagree my pioneer is 10x better than my parents panasonic!
Are you comparing the same generation screens, screen size and budget when you say this.

If you compare the latest generation Panasonics plasma's against the latest Pioneers in the same price range, I personally think the Panasonic is a better screen and better value for money

Mind you we all have different eyes and your opinion is as valid as mine.

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both where bought within 6 months of each other, mine being first, mine was more expensive, but no one mentioned price, you just said that panasonic where better
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both where bought within 6 months of each other, mine being first, mine was more expensive, but no one mentioned price, you just said that panasonic where better
Fair point, badly expressed point by me

Let me correct this.

Within a given budget I think the Panasonic units stand out.

Mind you the pioneer/nec screens are still very nice, the rest is down to my personal preference.

If its not a Phillips its ok by me
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Originally Posted by RickyLee53
I'll have a look in WHSmiths or something for the mag, but surely there not likely to be reviewing TV's every week?

This 1 looks a bit better then, visually it doesn't though.

http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/pro.../specification


I couldn't find that mag, any other views on the tv linked above? Think it looks the best all rounder.
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I made a point of buying one of the last generation Pioneers when I heard about the change still the best IMHO ahd still rated highly by others.

If I had to buy one now though I would agree & probaby get a Panasonic.

Either way they are both great sets.
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I have a panasonic viera 42" plasma, and I am over the moon with it. Also,as a sidenote, I have found plasmas to display a much better image from an RGB scart source, than an equivalent LCD
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I find that a 50 inch plasma displays a better pic with HDMI. lol
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Sorry to hijack the thread but whats best for gaming, and will a HD ready (as to ful HD) TV be ok for it?

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