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Old 05-02-2009, 11:30 AM
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Yeah, course. We have done them ourselves. I cracked a piston on mine in the last one we did! Doh!

If the numbers were there, hell yes. I'd do 4x4, RWD and FWD qualifying.

As ever you get big noise about it and it goes quiet near the day, but i'd be more than happy to arrange it. Thrashes are on the back burner for the moment because of brunters and the costs of other possible venues. I would go for it though, yeah!

TOTB is well worth a crack IMO. You have to be one miserable cunt to go to a day like that and not enjoy it. Lemme see, a day with like-minded people, from across the car world, all having it and abusing their toys, swapping tips and ideas?

Or an afternoon slagging off the people from your own "scene" on the internet?

Car abuse and friendly banter/rivalry wins everytime for me, sadly, i'm in a minority it seems! Anytime a proper Ford owner tries to sort something they are met with sarcasm, digs, snide commets etc etc.

Not cool.
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Neil - would you be interested in running a TOTB 'qualifying' at Brunters for a Ford Team?

I remember Max Power did one for TOTB 2 or 3 - Marco, Spadge, Martoon, Bruce Read etc. etc. were all in it - made a great read
i dont think we will have enougth cars to have to qualify.so a totb testing day will be better give us a chance to help each other go a bit faster,swop tips ect.
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cars will need to be running by the end of june.
Old 05-02-2009, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Lloyd
i dont think we will have enougth cars to have to qualify.so a totb testing day will be better give us a chance to help each other go a bit faster,swop tips ect.
Agreed - a day of testing would be good.

It would also identify any potential problems well in advance of the event. Nothing worse than something failing on the start line in front of a crowd as the car hasn't ever been tested!
Old 05-02-2009, 12:06 PM
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Just as a note, the noise regs for TOTB are stricter than Brunters.

Ł100 for an entry is quite cheap, you get 2 tickets worth Ł40 and a DVD of the day Ł15, so that works out at Ł45 to have as many goes on the quarter mile and standing 1km plus 5 laps of the handling circuit - Not Bad?

Simon.

PS. dont think I will be attending this year as my baby is due in July?
Old 05-02-2009, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by sas
Just as a note, the noise regs for TOTB are stricter than Brunters.

Ł100 for an entry is quite cheap, you get 2 tickets worth Ł40 and a DVD of the day Ł15, so that works out at Ł45 to have as many goes on the quarter mile and standing 1km plus 5 laps of the handling circuit - Not Bad?

Simon.

PS. dont think I will be attending this year as my baby is due in July?
thats a shame simon,i was looking forward to seeing you have another go at beating some vauxhalls.
Old 05-02-2009, 12:20 PM
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Have we a list of potentials then now, can you update the first page Lloyd so we can see whos up for some OldSkoolFun!
Old 05-02-2009, 12:24 PM
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Shame Si, you, to your credit have been a good example for people.

Priorities though mate, hope all goes well for you 'n the Mrs
Old 05-02-2009, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Luca
Have we a list of potentials then now, can you update the first page Lloyd so we can see whos up for some OldSkoolFun!
done mate.
as not everybody has internet access,please ask anybody you know who has a suitable car.
Old 05-02-2009, 06:37 PM
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I'm trying to talk my mrs into entering but she doesnt like the idea of all the keyboard warriors giving it the big what for if for some reason she doesn't do really really well, cant blame her really but it is a shame.
Old 05-02-2009, 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TiB
I'm trying to talk my mrs into entering but she doesnt like the idea of all the keyboard warriors giving it the big what for if for some reason she doesn't do really really well, cant blame her really but it is a shame.
she shouldnt let other peoples opinions affect what she does in life.and its unlike a woman to be told what she can or cant do,are you sure she has thought this through? lmfao.
just put her name in lee.
Old 05-02-2009, 07:28 PM
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I know she's been reading this post so maybe she might be secretly a little bit interested... ask her nicely and she might do it lol
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ok, ftao lees mrs, will you please enter totb?
will that do ?

Old 05-02-2009, 07:57 PM
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Ha ha....i doubt it... i think it'll take more than that.

get a few people (neil from fast ford might talk her into it) to harass her

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Old 05-02-2009, 08:10 PM
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I'm more into the Vauxhall scene but I'd love to see a Ford team enter...if anything to make the competition a bit more interesting
Old 05-02-2009, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TiB
Ha ha....i doubt it... i think it'll take more than that.

get a few people (neil from fast ford might talk her into it) to harass her
why neil? or shouldnt i ask
Old 05-02-2009, 09:53 PM
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Is Mike doing a cossie team this year?
Old 05-02-2009, 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Is Mike doing a cossie team this year?
Lol - Just slum it with us mate

YUM would be a fantastic all rounder at TOTB
Old 05-02-2009, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Lol - Just slum it with us mate

YUM would be a fantastic all rounder at TOTB

Not a 10sec 1/4 yet
Old 05-02-2009, 10:11 PM
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We will be running the sunbeam again this year, so I don't think I will be able to compete myself, as it seems to take up all my time just working on one car! I will however see if Oli is interested, as we are now nudging 500bhp with the CVH!

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Originally Posted by Its Dave
Not a 10sec 1/4 yet
With the new engine i will be genuinely shocked if you can't break into the 10s!!!

The thing about yours Dave, is that it'll be an all rounder - ok, might not be 'the' quickest on the quarter, top speed or handling - but it should be up there mixing it with the jap stuff...
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Originally Posted by Karl
We will be running the sunbeam again this year, so I don't think I will be able to compete myself, as it seems to take up all my time just working on one car! I will however see if Oli is interested, as we are now nudging 500bhp with the CVH!

500hp
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Originally Posted by Karl
We will be running the sunbeam again this year, so I don't think I will be able to compete myself, as it seems to take up all my time just working on one car! I will however see if Oli is interested, as we are now nudging 500bhp with the CVH!
500bhp nice one mate!!! hope to see that there!!!!
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
With the new engine i will be genuinely shocked if you can't break into the 10s!!!

The thing about yours Dave, is that it'll be an all rounder - ok, might not be 'the' quickest on the quarter, top speed or handling - but it should be up there mixing it with the jap stuff...

Hopefully in April we will find out but at the moment it looks like this


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Dave - your engine bay is more complete than mine! And i'm wanting mine done, mapped and shakendown for central day!

Karl - 500bhp CVH Awesome!!!
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I think we would be competetive on the handling and standing km, but would be near the bottom on the qtr mile as mk3/4 escorts are dreadfull at putting power down off the line. (Allthough Tim somehow manages to get his going ok!)
Old 05-02-2009, 10:21 PM
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I'll be there spectating, but I'll offer anyone free spannering/errand running/parts fetching/beer to anyone who needs it.

Lets all go, have a fucking laugh and watch/drive some fast cars eh?
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Originally Posted by SteveH
Lets all go, have a fucking laugh and watch/drive some fast cars eh?
Exactly. The scene needs just that!

I'm utterly fed up with the negative vibes at the moment - i don't care if my car comes home on a trailer that day, i intend to show it no mechanical sympathy
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Originally Posted by Karl
I think we would be competetive on the handling and standing km, but would be near the bottom on the qtr mile as mk3/4 escorts are dreadfull at putting power down off the line. (Allthough Tim somehow manages to get his going ok!)

So what can you do to help getting off the line quicker in mk3/4 escorts?

as there seams to be loads of powerful enough cars out there but they
put in shite quarters in comparison to a similar or even lesser powered nova/corsas!!
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Originally Posted by Karl
I think we would be competetive on the handling and standing km, but would be near the bottom on the qtr mile as mk3/4 escorts are dreadfull at putting power down off the line. (Allthough Tim somehow manages to get his going ok!)
it would be nice to see tims and oli s car at totb mate.
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Dave - your engine bay is more complete than mine! And i'm wanting mine done, mapped and shakendown for central day!

Karl - 500bhp CVH Awesome!!!


Hopefully will be ready in March
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The solution is NOT to use a mk3/4 escort. Put Tim or Oli's engine in a mk1/2 fiesta, instant 11sec qtr mile car!

I even ran a 12 sec qtr in a X-flow powered mk1 fiesta over ten years ago with only 170bhp. Try running a 12sec qtr in a mk3/4 escort with anything less than 250bhp!
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it cant just be down to weight can it? more down to different suspension set ups,better traction in the fiestas.
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
Exactly. The scene needs just that!

I'm utterly fed up with the negative vibes at the moment - i don't care if my car comes home on a trailer that day, i intend to show it no mechanical sympathy
Bang on Will!! like I said I may be of no use but i'll roll my sleeves up if it means cars can keep running, and if not, I'll be there with a selection of beers to keep nerves from fraying
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Lloyd,

The suspension design and geometry of the mk3/4 escort is terrible. I actually think they are the worst handling car of the era (i.e. early 80's) and by modern standards are shocking!

The fiesta mk1/2 allthough also crude by design, does not suffer with rear end squat, front end lift of the mk3/4 that prevents good launches.

Obviously the mk3/4 escort could be completely re-engineered to be a qtr mile car, but then why bother with the esocrt in the 1st place, and Tim and Oli use their's primarily as track cars.


Regarding weight my own fiesta should tip the scales at around 730kg, compared to 950kg of Tim's. VERY SIGNIFICANT!
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Originally Posted by Lloyd
it cant just be down to weight can it? more down to different suspension set ups,better traction in the fiestas.
As Karl has said - they're just not the chassis for the job!

Was one of the primary reasons i walked away from my 500bhp Mk4 Escort project, because it just wouldn't have been the chassis for the job!

The modifications required to hook even half that power up would have been extensive and at the end of it (and a far lighter wallet) - you run the same times as someone with half the power...
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yes will, it seems quite often that a big power fwd ford will run the same times as a car with half the power.
the more power you have the harder it is to get any traction.
just a shame the vauxhalls can manage it lol
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not sure who is organising this etc, but i want to compete for sure
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Originally Posted by AJC
not sure who is organising this etc, but i want to compete for sure
to enter totb,you only need to fill in the form when they become available,march time.and send off the payment.if your car is accepted, then you will get your number details ect in the post.
if mike is not organising a cossy team then you are welcome to tag along with us.
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wooo hooo hoo hoooo, we got a genuine team then?


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