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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 11:14 AM
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whats involved when it comes to the DVLA.. does any one know how the process works when notifying them of a engine swap??

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 11:39 AM
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fill in the part on the log book with the new engine number...send it off to dvla and you will get it back within a couple of weeks with new number on the book

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 02:13 PM
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email recived kev and replied.

O ok so its that simple. i thought checks etc had to be done lol
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 05:15 PM
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Nope no checks as said just fill in logbook and send off, you also have to notify if change of FUEL is done.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 05:19 PM
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From DVLA:

Change to engine and cylinder capacity (engine size)
DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:
  • a receipt for the replacement engine
  • written evidence from the manufacturer
  • an inspection report provided for insurance purposes
  • written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle


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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by focusv8
From DVLA:

Change to engine and cylinder capacity (engine size)
DVLA will need written evidence of any changes to engine number and cylinder capacity (cc). Written evidence can be:
  • a receipt for the replacement engine
  • written evidence from the manufacturer
  • an inspection report provided for insurance purposes
  • written confirmation on headed paper from a garage if the change in engine size took place before you bought the vehicle
that is regarding a change of engine size

swapping an engine for another the same size and type only needs the doc filled in with the new number and sent off to dvla
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevin Sharp
that is regarding a change of engine size

swapping an engine for another the same size and type only needs the doc filled in with the new number and sent off to dvla
Original post doesn't say whether it's a size change or not.

Originally Posted by R5FORD
notifying them of a engine swap??



DVLA quote "of any changes to engine number"

Every engine has a different engine number, so changing any engine for any other engine needs to comply with the quote from DVLA.

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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:38 PM
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ive never bothered changing the v5. the insurance know and thats all that matters really.
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Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by focusv8
Original post doesn't say whether it's a size change or not.






DVLA quote "of any changes to engine number"

Every engine has a different engine number, so changing any engine for any other engine needs to comply with the quote from DVLA.

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i have swapped countless engines but not increased capacity of the engine as all have been like for like swaps....always just fill in the engine number on part 7 of the reg doc...post to dvla and like magic...within a couple of weeks your new doc drops through the door with the new engine number on it
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 08:56 AM
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when i bought mine, it had a turbo conversion. As far as I know, as much of the original Orion EFi engine was left in, and only the parts needed to add the turbo were added.

How do I go about declaring that? the engine is still a 1.6, so capacity hasn't changed?

I thought i had to have some report of some kind, declaring that the brakes etc have been upgraded as well, to cope with the extra power?
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:28 AM
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OK heres your answer as i have been on the phone with DVLA this morning about my focus cossie conversion, they checked and double checked and came up with the following

- if RFL (road tax) is based on emissions or not

The original emissions/ tax bracket is based on the car NOT the engine, so i can put a 2.0ltr in a 1.4focus and still pay road tax as if it was a 1.4, all you need to do is put in writing the engine size and engine number and send it to them with V5 and thats it, obviously it would have to be insured under the new cc but im ok cos im on a trading policy as easy as that



if your not changing CC sizes then is does not matter as long as your insurance covers you with a turbo conversion

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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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.. which is hilarious as emissions tests are done on the engine, not the car/year!!..

Gotta love how the DVLA and VOSA don't collaborate
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 09:38 AM
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also for emissions tests on newer cars, i.e my 1996 escort cossie, no cat, at mot time, its a modified car and has the engine and management system from a 1987 RS500 so the emission goes on the 1987 car
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 10:48 AM
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I have only ever filled the V5 in and never been asked for anything yet, well not in25 years anyway.
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Old Jan 15, 2009 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tabetha
I have only ever filled the V5 in and never been asked for anything yet, well not in25 years anyway.
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The last engine change I did 2 years ago, I only notified on the v.5. and the new V5 came back without any questions.
The quote I got from DVLA website appeared about a year ago.
It would appear that persons at DVLA that answer the phone don't know their own rules.
I would guess if you tried to notify an engine change today they WILL ask for the info I quoted.

Regarding the reference to engine size and emissions / tax bracket, that's not the same as emissions as measured at MOT.
People were claiming they had changed their engine to a smaller size to get reduced RFL, when actually they had the original engine in.
DVLA fixed the RFL to original makers emissions data so no matter what engine is in it's still the original RFL rate.

More people were falsely declaring reduced engine size than people genuinely declaring increased engine size, so DVLA's income is hardly affected by the few who fit large engines to cars with low RFL rate.

At M.o.t, emissions are determined by whichever is the oldest, car or engine.

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