Mark_

your wasting your time trev, we dont own turbo's.

derekd

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He said FWD you absolute idiot!

PLEASE learn to read as you keep just replying with utter utter gibberish.

It was ME that said fwd mate ?so please read again he said (I'd have Vauxhall of that era everytime)

trev27

or 350+BHP and 0-60 in 4.3673 seconds (on a dyno)

alan12112

are mk5/6 rs2k's that much worse than the fiesta rs1800?

the fiesta is probably the worst RS IMO

why does it matter anyway?

Mark_

the rs2000 has more power than the rs1800 and handles better

zetecvandal

I own two RS2000's one mk5 and the others a mk6 and I could not give a flying f**k what anyone else says about them they are both cracking cars in their own right and deserve to have an RS badge, they have become the lost and forgotten RS like the RS1600i

and now people are starting the appreciate them for what they are… a good non tubo’d reliable fun car

stick your vauxpile sh*t on a different site and not a ford one

jammerrs

sorry to but into the arguement

minirotty - can i have a link to your thread pleeeeeeeeeeease

Mark_

link sent via pm,

jammerrs

thankyou

Minirotty

I only replied here in the first place as previously stated one of my pal's felt insulted by a member here for calling RS2000's crap

Since that this thread has given Chippy the notoriety he so craves pmsl

Chip, you can feel free to stop replying to this thread now as your point has been made, we realise you hold no regard for the RS2000 and tbh there may well be many other (probably vax pile owners) and not genuine "ford" enthusiasts that feel the same as your self, but am I interested in hearing there point which will just echo yours? no lol

It has been nice to return here today to see many others echoing D19 STE's and my fondness for the RS2000's though.

Long live Ford's no matter what league it may fall into within the RS judgement panel here on PF.

If you would like to enter a non judgemental area on the Internet regards to Fords have a look at www.SportingFords.com you'll be amazed once you join that even if you do not own an RS badged Ford you will still be entitled to an opinion and your opinions will not be over powered by long standing members of the forum (even if they are idolised by other pmsl)

I wont reply in this thread again as I guess my post here may have antagonised Chippy further

coxyrs

275 to 300bhp i4 engine, i wouldnt say that there that untunable for n/a power if you have money lol, now im skint

trev27

Well said mate

silky16v

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Dare i even ask how much that cost this is picture a power graph of my 2.0 16v XE with simple bolt on Jenvey throttle bodies & mild cams & DTA management everything internally standard, i don't have the graph which shows it made 208.9bhp with an exhaust change

And that cost me the price of a Full Astra GTE 16v for the engine (coscast) Ł300 and the Throttle Bodies, Cam, Loom, ECU & mapping Ł2000
I of the best Mods i ever did to that engine

RCCossie

Ive got 2 Mk5 RS2K's and had 4 all together and even if i had a 800 bhp cossie id still own a RS2000.

The i4 is a great engine maybe not the most powerfull. My Gray RS2000 got put through hell being Redlined all the time and it even got crashed twice (not by me) and yet would start up and run perfect everytime without fail.

ill prob have one for along time to come no matter what other cars i own in the future

michael harbour

i just got a black 08 plate today.......................

coxyrs

forged high compression pistons
steel rods
autograss blank cut profiled cams
adjustable cam sprockets
bigger valves
uprated springs
knife edge lightened & balanced crank
baffled sump
ported head
2.3 galaxy bottom end
re bored to 91.00 with the custom pistons
jenveys
90mm trumpets
440cc injectors
omex 600

approx probably about 5k probably more

minimum is 275bhp, but maybe more if im lucky enough on the dyno

me and miniroty are doing a simular build.

why would motorsport use the rs2000 engine in a maxi rs2000 mk6 if it was not worthy of the rs name badge.

the old classic rs2000, rs500, cosworths were all in motorsport and they seem to be worthy.

so why not the rs2000 mk5/6 be worthy of the rs name, ive never understood this arguement on ford forums.

mad_on_Series_one

opened this to read about the corsa VXR and its about the bloody rs2000 , can the starter of the thread change it to "CHIP HATES THE RS2000" lolol

RS Grant

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Someone (cant remember who) mentioned the Calibra and Cavalier Turbo as Vauxhall flagships... and forgot to mention the Sapphire or Escort Cosworth which were available at the same time... ...must have been because it would have shat all over his arguement. Reason I mention it is (could be in line for a cheeky james bond smiley face) that weren't the Calibra and Cav Turbos all 4WD, obviously until the transfer boxes shit themselves.

I had a MK5b RS2000, which is the worst looking of the MK5, MK5b and MK6 models.. but it was a quick car (faster than a friends MK2 Clio 172) that handled and stopped reasonably well. Picked it up for peanuts, if I could find another one for a few hundred quid then I'd be all over it, never gave me any hassle and sold it onto a friend who ran it for a while without any issues either.

I think the only reason that they are so unloved is that most people would rather pick up a slightly more special looking Series 1 or Series 2 and spend a few hundred quid tuning it... to get any meaningful gains out of the N/A 2.0 then you're talking big wonga.


Cheers,
Grant

RS Grant

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Oh, and to keep it on topic... the Corsa VXR have/had a bit of a problem with the engines losing oil pressure didn't they??

Just that a lad up here had a VXR and got it remapped by some company down south to c210-215bhp and think he had two engine failures which he managed to get through warranty before he got fed up with the hassle and decided to move onto something else. There were also a couple of standard cars on the owners club were also losing oil pressure, leading to rebuilds too.

This may have been cleared up by a recall or something by now.


Cheers,
Grant

Chip

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LMAO @ people saying im anti ford, of course I fucking not or I wouldnt own one and be a member of my local RSOC etc!

Its because im a RS enthusiast, that I notice things like the brand being cheapened with cars that arent up to the usual RS standard

silky16v

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thats because both the calibra & cavalier are both available in FWD format at we ain't talking about 4x4 cars here

and anyhow in standard form the Cavalier & Calibra Turbo were both far better than a Standard 4x4 Saph (and TBH how could any car maker try compete with the Escos) But i tell you sommit Vauxhall certainly won in the Rwd with the lotus Carton

silky16v

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i was gonna say getting that estimated power for 5k is really chep then i notice it ain't a 2.0 any more, will be very interested to actually see what power it makes and how reliable it is at that power level

derekd

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LMAO @ people saying im anti ford
Its because im a RS enthusiast (u forgot the cosworth bit here)


i would say u are mate if it aint got a cosworth badge then it aint worthy of the RS badge?? is that just cause u own a cossie??

nickywarwick

not to open a completly diffrent argument but i do not belive that statment in the slightest. my 182 (virtualy no diffrent to a 172) would piss all over it in standard form

Chip

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Mine's neither an RS or a cosworth mate, its a replica, just a very thorough one

AlexF

Chip,

I'm so glad you havent seen the RS models ford didn't put into production...

like a ford KA RS with a 1.6na

Chip

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Indeed, was so obviously bollocks I just didnt even bother to reply, no point going down that route with him, he'll swear its true even though blatantly the only way it is, would be if the clio was fucked or not driven right, no way is an rs2000 actually the quicker car of the two.

nickywarwick

100% agreed bud. but i aint getting into a slagging match between members.lol.

i do agree on the other hand that the later rs2k is a poor example of an rs imo.

AlexF

anyways!

I might go look at a Vauxhall Dealership today LOL

coxyrs

silky16v i'll let you know how it all goes when its done, but with all the calculations done i will not have any running issues, i hope or its back to the drawing board.

anyways back on this topic.

my mate had a vxr and i agree about the engine problems.

went back for two heads and didnt sort it a new engine, wents tits again and then another new engine and then he sold it.

he was lucky it was under warranty, so hopefully there shouldnt be any of these problems anymore.

purple_fiesta

Ive not drove the artic on the road, but the standard corsa vxr (which I have driven many times) is pretty poor imo performance wise, but better looking than the ford st150.

Charlie Chalk

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I was in my work van the other day and could hear a drone, Looked over and see one! A VXR Corsa in white, Didn't know fuck all about it, but it sounded lovely, and when he gave it some, it shifted too! Didn't help that I was egging him on, but I liked it, Alot.

steelcabby

I like both the corsa and astra VXR. but wouldn't buy one at those prices, wait for them to come right down in a few years, saying that i wouldn't buy one anyway, rather a skyline TBH.

as for the RS2000 situation.....i agree that they are worthy of the badge, great cars. especially the mk5 IMO.

looks very sporty, very comfortable to drive, handle very well if driven right and my old one never let me down, good strong cars. very smooth to drive

i've owned lots of rs turbos and TBH they are over-rated crap, just an xr3i with recaro's and bonnet vents.....oh not forgetting that all important turbo. always problems, handle crap. only had acouple of reliable ones, and they are the ones that stay standard. i think its the turbo issue that people like about them, easy to whack the boost up and have instant power, well if you want that extra power you still have to chip it, cool it etc etc or it ain't gonna last. still costs allot of money if you want it done properly

don't give a monkeys what people say about this reply, but the rs2000 is one of the best RS's i owned and regretted selling it. and i will be getting another one this year for ford fair plus for daily running.

so to sum it all up, someone anwser me this, what gives a car the right to wear an rs badge?

A Turbo?

Looks?

Recaros?

and who decides what gives a car the right to own such a badge?

Ford?

Or someone who thinks he is an RS enthusiat?

an RS' enthusiat loves all RS's IMO not just the ones with turbos and look good.

IMO mk3 escort looked hard as nails, mk4 escort looked crap. mk6 escort looks poo IMO, only cos it represents a GTI. loved the mk5 escort and also the cosworth. the 3 door was the better looking of the sierras, but who cares???

you own an drive it cos its an RS IMO

Oh and chippy pants? did you say you drive a replica?? so you don't own a real RS in any form?

Ad4m RST

I can't take the RS2k's seriously either tbh, far too watered down.

Was definitely more marketing than making a name for Ford, it resembles an Escos slightly so just about ticks the box for looks but just can't pull any weight against the known RS's, far too soft.

It's the most user friendly, but then why buy an RS



Tell me you'd honestly take a Cav Turbo over a 4x4 Saph?

And mentioning the Lotus Carlton here is like a Ford nut mentioning the GT, not remotely relative.

trev27

Bollocks!!!!!! The MK6 RS2K was out before the GTi, the GTi is a rep of the MK6 RS2K IMO LOL

Either way, i like all RS's and what they stand for.

Vauxhalls, you can stick them up your ars........................................

Mark_

what do you mean it cant pull any weight against any other rs's?
take one standard rst and put it up against a standard rs2000 and the rs2000 will beat it in everyway, rs2000 handles 100times better than the rst and its quicker to 60 and higher top end so the above comment is nonsense

Ad4m RST

But then give a RST an MTX75 box, haldex transmission, bigger brakes etc.

If you're going to wave off nearly 10 years of engineering might as well level the playing fields.

Mark_

thats development mate, the point im making is that the rs2000 can hold its own against other rs branded cars and therefore deserves to wear the rs badge surely?

Ad4m RST

Too emotive for a definite answer tbh mate...

Pound for pound for me it's a soft RS.

Mike C

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I think the MK6 Escort looks fantastic with GTi/RS kit and a few subtle touches.

MK5 looks shite, although the buldge bonnet RS2000 in Polaris Grey goes some way towards redeeming that...