TIFF

At the moment i have a Belkin Wireless G Router......

All i got it for was to run my laptop which isnt that far away from the router.

But for Christmas my Missus lad got an Xbox Wireless adapter so he can go online in his bedroom upstairs.

But it is struggling to get a constant conection to the router.........

Would it be because it was just a basic cheap wireless router i got, as i didnt intend on it running an xbox.......as my Xbox is hard wired in.

What are good routers on the market that will run the xbox well.......its not my internet connection as that is a 10mb fibre optic

At the mnute i have one like this

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/stor...&category_oid=

Would i be better of getting one like this

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/stor...&category_oid=

Graceland

Get yourself one of the new generation Netgear Routers - 25m wireless range with superb connection that won't hang and drop every 5 seconds

TIFF

Paul

Have you got a link to one?????

TIFF

this one?

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/stor...&category_oid=

danneth

dont spend that much when its not needed

TIFF

Well what is needed

Graceland

If I was going wireless then I would be buying that one myself Mark

Graham S1

Can I stick a question in this thread too as it's relevant?

My mum got the same thing (Belkin G wireless), and trying to get it hooked up to my bro's BT router. I've now got it recognising, and trying to connect with Firefox. It's asking for username and password, which I take it, should be my brothers details for his ISP?

Or do I have to setup a username/pword on the router?

TIFF

What about this one.....says its for gaming and can download speeds at 300mbps

http://www.currys.co.uk/martprd/stor...&category_oid=

danneth

something like the Linksys WRT54G2UK 54G will be more then enough can be had for about £30

BM08

The only thing you put into the router is ISP details yes, only other password is for your own security so that joe bloggs two doors down cant connect to it

TIFF

The onei have is a 54g for about £30 and it wont cope with the xbox......

would rather get a good one that is up to the job

danneth

you wont get much better then linksys i just set th same one up for my mate with his xbox and 2 pc's no problems

stevieturbo

What about the network adaptors that network over your mains wiring via a plug adaptor ??

TIFF

Whats that about

stevieturbo

This type of thing

http://svp.co.uk/category/networking_(ac_mains)

http://www.devolo.co.uk/uk_EN/index.html

Basically saves you running cat 5's everywhere from the router.

Normal router...to mains adaptor plugged into the 240 wall socket.

Then at the other end..another adaptor at the computer/xbox end, and same setup. Short cat5 patch from adaptor to your device.

FWIW, Ive never used one....but they look handy.

Rick Astley

Tiff...

Get the idea out your head that buying a new router will sort your problems out. It won't always necessarily.

First thing to do is go into your Admin Panel for your router which is normally something like http://192.168.1.254/

Your looking to move the wireless to another channel and see how it is from that point on.

Give that a shot then if you get nowhere perhaps think about placement of the router to avoid any interference like microwaves, electrical cables etc.

HTH
Tim

NEO™®©

as said before linksys are great

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Hmmm....

Only if your router is also a modem, and your internet comes in via ADSL over a phoneline

No. You will have a password for your router settings - a username and password to allow you access to the settings and options in the router set up menu's.

You can THEN choose to put a password on the wireless signal in the for of security - typically either WEP or WPA. Some allow you to choose a custom password, some will generate a random code you need to use for all devices that want to connect to your router, and thus internet signal (and any computers with shared files/drives on your network)

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)

Tiff, before you start buying new stuff that do dont actually need...

Try changing the default channel number as all your neighbours are probably using the same

Usually set to channel 11.... Try another

leecavturbo

netgear is ultra good. Tiff deffo try changing the channel first
as other things in your house can be close to maybe the channel its set on
like dect phones etc.

TIFF

How do i change the channel??????

TIFF

How do i change the channel over.....

I need a simpltons step by step guide

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

iTrader: (1)

Sorry, You will need to RTFM as I dont know the specifics of your router

I had the same issues myself on my netgear and its been 100% perfect since I changed the channel

3i-bays

im using a belkin, it runs my laptop, and xbox fine.

TIFF

Simon

With all your knowledge i thought you would be the man to tell me.....

TIFF

Is that how to change the channel

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Thats no good for use with the XBox Mark. Thats using wireless N technology, which the xbox doesn't support.

Wireless comes in varying forms, which are down to speed and data transfer rate. To make it REALLY simple, there are only really two "standard" forms - 802.11b and 802.11g. B will allow transfer speeds upto 11Mbps, and G will allow speeds upto 54Mbps.

There are varients, like Netgear's "Super G" that use two wireless channels to achieve 108Mbps, however you need a compatible "108-G" adapter for the device aswell (usually in PCI, PCMCIA or USB form)

Wireless N isn't a stock specification yet, and isn't approved either. It runs at a higher frequency than 802.11x specifications (which are 2.4Ghz - N runs at 5Ghz) This means if your router is set to N-spec, other devices that run at 2.4Ghz (such as laptop's, PDA's etc) won't be able to connect to your network.

Also, the speed is country dependant. In the US, 802.11n is allowed to go at upto 300Mbps, but in the UK (might be Europe as opposed to UK only) it's capped to about 130-150Mbps. It's to do with radio frequency and bandwidth I believe.... Of course it's "get around-able" - People with the Apple Time Capsule (that is N-Spec) can input their location in the set up as the US using a US postcode and be "allowed" to run at 300Mbps - however in real life that's probably only going to be a useable 90-100Mbps....

So in reality, wired is STILL the way to go, specially if your hardware at each end is gigabit compliant (10/100/1000) as there's nothing commecially available that will run at close to those speeds.

Moving onto powerline adaptors that someone mentioned - many have been praising these for allowing them to be able to hook up PS3's and 360's

YOu fit one into a mains socket by your router, and connect to the router using an ethernet patch cable, and plug in another near your console/laptop/computer/printer/whatever and connect with another patch cable. Just uses the house mains wiring to extend the data signal. Also allows multiple output point connections.

Speeds range from 14Mbps to 85Mbps, but I don't think anyone's actually acheved speeds as high as that, but typically they provide a quick enough exchange to allow online gaming....

Don't use with a multi-gang plug thing tho - they need a dedicated wall socket all to themselves.....

Hope this is of help

biglee

Tiff, i have a uprated tx/rx netgear router you can have mate... just pop over and get it... trip to daventry lol

TIFF

Cheers for that

So i basically need a "G" spec'd router.................... which i have at the minute and it does run the Xbox upstairs.... but it has dropped connection a few times.

I will try changing the channels on it as people have said.

At least my Xbox is hardwired in...........

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Mark - not knowing what your router actually is, this isn't going to be a gospel step by step guide.

But first find out what your computers IP address is. This can be done from going into NETWORK CONNECTIONS in CONTROL PANEL and clicking PROPERTIES on the active network connection.

It will be something like 192.168.1.x (x being a number between 1-9)

So the address of the router will be like this, and probably be 192.168.1.1 or maybe 192.168.1.0 - like that

Put the address (the numbers above) into a webpage (like you would for a website) and if you get the right IP, you should go to the page for your router settings. You'll probably be asked to log in - you'll need your admin password and username (this will be in your manual or sometimes on the bottom of the router)

Log in, then look for something like WIRELESS OPTIONS or WIRELESS SETTINGS. ONce you find that you should be able to look through it and see a drop menu for the Wireless Channel. As Simon said, typically it's set to 11, but so is everyone else's aswell so this is no good. YOu should choose another, preferably 3 "points" either side, so with 11 being higest, try channel 6 or 7. If thats no good, try 4, and so on....

Remember to save each time!

TIFF

Cheers mate........ I have the "web addy" for the router in my bookmarks so i will try this first.....

Thanks for the help guys

Lee......... Cheers for the offer fella......... if all else fails i will pop over

JTECH James

iTrader: (13)

i have a bt homehub, and a belkin g+ router,

which do you think would be best to use?

Wazzzer

I upgraded from a G and got myself an N spec router and all seems to be well

Nice idea about changing the channel too, just done that as it was set to factory

Thrush

iTrader: (1)

Wazz - it's probably only running on G-Spec settings then....

Madbradz

Erm... I think everyone thought you were running wireless??? unless im missing something....

If your running wired.... The prob is most likley to be your Internet connection....


Igonre me just re read your post, Yer change channel.Im running a cheapo belkin router and xbox with no probs

Adam

Stu.H

Mark
I too had a belkin bellend router, absolutely awful. Disconnecting everytime download speeds exceeded 100k.
I changed it to a Netgear WGR614, and it NEVER drops. can download at 2.2mb/sec all day long and ive not had to reboot it once in the month or so ive had it.
Was only 39.99 as well from currys.
If you are on NTL/Telewest/Whatever they call themselves these days, thats the router to get.
If you are on SKY broadband or one that requires a username and password, you will need to get the ADSL version.

HTH, and hope u and ur family had a good crimbo/NY

Chris Honeywell

I have exactly the same it runs ps3 xbox360 3 laptops and 1 desktop..
The 360 is top bedroom and the router is in the lounge.
It all works sweet so far

JTECH James

iTrader: (13)

ive just swapped my homehub for the belkin and its sooooooo much better!

tonyk

I have a linksys 300mbps router and it runs two 360's, a ps3, 2 computers, and a epson wireless printer without issue. A router may be 54g spec and may acheive that speed under test conditions, but as soon as you add in a few walls, radio noise etc.. the signal strength drops as does the speed. If you have encryption on the router this also slows it down. Also the cpu in the router may be slow when processing/routing lots of traffic. This is usually the difference between a £20 item and £100+ router.

I would personally try another wireless channel, and make sure the xbox does not have anything covering it. If you have encryption on the router, turn it off to test the connection and see if its bigger, also check your router has the latest firmware, there should be an automatic update feature on the belkin.