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Old 28-12-2008, 02:56 PM
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Default Seimens black 55lb injectors

What boost are they maxed out at?
Old 28-12-2008, 03:00 PM
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not really any answer to that tbh, it will vary completly on ve and turbo choice
Old 28-12-2008, 03:02 PM
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I have just fitted a t4 to my car & going to phone karl norris for a chip to suit my spec but just wondering if i need to change my ijectors.
Old 28-12-2008, 03:04 PM
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i would use the 83lbs on a t4

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Old 28-12-2008, 03:06 PM
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great the 55lb's are splitting new more money down the drain ohh well
Old 28-12-2008, 03:09 PM
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it depends what sort of power you want from it, 55s are bigger than a grey but i dont think you would see 500bhp from them, and the t4 is potentially a 500bhp turbo

whereas the 83s are safe to over 600bhp and you would be running a real safe duty at that

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Old 28-12-2008, 03:12 PM
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Not sure on power to be honest.Its a new roller bearing t4 i have fitted.Small turbo plenium.
Ported head & bd 16 cams.
6.8 comp ratio.
What kind of boost would be ok? hit 32 hold 28? that would do me
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well that engine will piss 500bhp, its a similar spec to mine,

you can run whatever boost you want, i run 37psi peak hold 32 to the limiter,

but ive seen 44psi peaks
Old 28-12-2008, 03:16 PM
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Foook me didnt realise i could run that
Old 28-12-2008, 03:19 PM
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hell yeah, t4s go into a league of there own at 37psi
Old 28-12-2008, 03:21 PM
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Exited now
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you diff and box wont be
Old 28-12-2008, 03:26 PM
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Don't think 55's will do safely 500bhp on a t4?
Old 28-12-2008, 03:28 PM
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If i need to buy 83lbs i will i will see what karl says dont think i want to run any more than 35 psi
Old 28-12-2008, 03:29 PM
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im sire youl need 83s for that..
Old 28-12-2008, 05:39 PM
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Peaking at 36 psi on my t34.63 with 55's carlo.
Old 28-12-2008, 05:55 PM
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Boost has very little relation to injector sizing..
Old 28-12-2008, 05:56 PM
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Whats it holding kevin?
Old 28-12-2008, 06:00 PM
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With a T4 I would want 750cc as a min but it is best to ask your mapper.

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Thanks mark what cc are the 55lbs seimens injectors? (hope thats not a stupid questions)
Old 28-12-2008, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by carlo
Exited now
So am i mate and its not even my motor
Old 28-12-2008, 06:09 PM
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Realy need a part number but 55lb converts to 578cc.

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Old 28-12-2008, 06:14 PM
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No probs mark thanks. Just out of iintrest do you map webber & sell chips?
Old 28-12-2008, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by carlo
No probs mark thanks. Just out of iintrest do you map webber & sell chips?
No I recomend Ahmed or Stu's chips to people wanting them.

Mark
Old 28-12-2008, 06:21 PM
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Didnt think you did i have always seen autronic on your cars.
Old 28-12-2008, 06:58 PM
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55lbs would max at probably at 450hp; i had 55lb on my t34.55 and it was only around 370hp (ish)

the thing with all of the siemens injectors is that the 55lb, 72lb and 83lb are all the same price

ps. i bought mine from the US and it worked out cheaper, PM me if you want the details - the exchange rate isnt as good now tho :-( but probably still cheaper

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Old 28-12-2008, 07:41 PM
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55s flow better/more than greys carlo and i ran greys on my t4 set up but i maxed them out in the end so i now have 83lb siemens

euans engine was well specced to start of so i would go 83/1000cc now mate
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Cool thanks all im going to phone karl norris 2 moro for a chip if he has the injectors i will get him to supply them for the chip
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Originally Posted by carlo
Whats it holding kevin?
Just under 2 bar m8.
Old 28-12-2008, 08:20 PM
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carlo you got pm mate
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Hi , Anyone please help,, I have fitted a Garrett 3071 and 55lb black fuel injector,
I want to know if the Garrett 3071 is safe to work witht he 55lb siemen 55lb injector.

thanks emile(seychelles)

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I'd step up to 83Ib - think Tony @ turbosystems stocks them as they are pretty hard to source
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Originally Posted by emilegarage
Hi , Anyone please help,, I have fitted a Garrett 3071 (GT30)and 55lb black fuel injector,
I want to know if the Garrett 3071 is safe to work witht he 55lb siemen 55lb injector.

thanks emile(seychelles)
the 55's are too small for the capabilities of that turbo you will have to cap your power or use the larger Siemens
and I do have these in stock and maps to suite
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Hi there Perfic, my cossie the head has a mild flow and port and the cams are piper 262 and im running an RS500 intercooler on standard regular leaded fuel. will it be ok witht the larger siemens
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it will be fine if mapped correctly on the large siemens
Old 17-09-2012, 05:03 PM
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just turn up the fuel pressure, may need a significant upgrade in fuel pump though.
on my 60lbers with 3BAR they will flow 630cc, at 6BAR fuel pressure (max of 2BAR boost at this level) they can flow 900cc.
i'd be thinking 55lb siemens could flow just over 750cc, the problem being the fuel pump needs to be able to run 6BAR plus boost pressure to get it right, even an 044 won't guarantee this, a 413 will though, hard to get hold of though
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