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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:31 PM
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Got a nice fat cheque through from my insurance company this morning for the Integra which was carjacked last month and have decided to get a larger estate type motor until mid next year. Problem i've got it I dont know which one!!!! I only want to spend up to around the 4k mark and put the rest aside for when the right F150 Lightning comes along!! However, a lot of the estates are all 100k mile motors (want a diesel!), should I worry with this mileage these days?

The two in particular i've been looking at are either the Mondy TDCi 130 Zetec S's or an Audi A4 Avant. I actually prefer the look of the Mondy's but worried about reselling in say 6 months time. The mondy below is a 2002 model tdci 130 zetec S up for £3995 with 102k on the clock, the Audi below that is a 94000 miler V plate 1.9tdi se.






Which one would you go for and why?!

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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just sold a 02 02 omega dti estate,1 owner full history 120k miles,6 months tax,nearly new branded tyres,and drove like new for 2k, that makes a mondeo 02 diesel estate look dear, omegas can do huge miles if looked after properly as they are german built and really opels
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:46 PM
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Hello mate,

Personally I would just get yourself a very cheap <£1000 runabout for a year.

The problem with estates is that you are stumping up £4,000, which you would probably expect to loss one third if not half in a years time.

Alternatively wait and keep hunting for the F150, do you know the guy who has the black one that is always down our street......that makes one hell of a noise!
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:47 PM
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I am turning Japanese for my next car, I have always been a Ford fan but now that I am pregnant the Escos, Puma and Z-T van just aren't practical. Am a bit stumped on the Ford front as I want something reliable and Turbo'd (normally aspirated just wont do lol) so we are buying a Subaru WRX Estate for practicality and fun. still keeping the others apart from the Puma though

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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:50 PM
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iv'e got an audi a4 same car as in the picture but blue.very nice car to drive and the se is a good spec but if you need the boot space the mondeo is much bigger.i found the a4 does not have as much rear leg room either.very economical and cheap to run.you should be able to get an a4 that year and miles for alot less than 4k.have you thought about an a6?for 4k you should get a nice estate though.
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saw a impreza estate last night do £650 quid at auction, it had gold sti v3 alloys,morretts,the silver/black cloth seats and 81k miles,it was a turbo and didn't sell as the owner wanted a grand. thats cheep but not if the clutch or gearbox is fooked.
regards omegas,if you bought a 2 grand good 02 diesel you would probably not lose much if anything on it as they hold money really well the older they get. just try driving one to see,they are rear wheel drive and a cracking tow car or load carrier.
i just wouldn't get a petrol at the mo.
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zedtechs - no interest in a cheapy cheap shitter to be honest, i've got an old escort at the moment which i've been smoking about in and its horrible - used to newer / nicer cars if you know what I mean. yeah seen that black F150, parks at the station, i'm in the middle of buying a house so want to get moved in and settled down first before buying a Lightning as i'll be doing less miles (consumption) once im in.

cozzfather, i do like the omegas as it go and your right they are cheap. MIght be worth considering.

I dont really like the scooby estates to be honest and would've thought they would be hard to sell?? Having looked at that Audi again it is actually quite ugly as well!!!!



I may go look at the mondy and try and bid him £3200 or something and see what he says.
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I did see that one mate but its miles from here and it hasnt got the sporty bumpers!!
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That looks a good buy, same price as the other but 2yrs younger, and less mileage too
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:08 PM
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Shame it has to be a diesel, I know someone selling this for under £4k


Audi A6 2.7T Sport Quattro Avant


*Standard 230bhp (up to 300bhp if remapped) twin-turbo V6 30v with twin intercoolers as fitted to the Audi S4.

*Tiptronic gearbox & steering wheel controls (can be driven like a clutchless manual).

*Quattro 4WD.

*ESP Traction Control.

*Dual Digital Climate Control.

*Cruise control.

*Bose sound system and CD multichanger.

*Xennon headlights.

*6 airbags (front passenger one can be turned on or off with the main key).

*Leather 'S' sports steering wheel (adjustable for reach and rake).

*Recaro style deep sports seats.

*Full proper nappa leather interior with wood dash inserts.

*Electrically adjustable height and lumbar on front seats.

*Heated front seats with temperature control.

*Rear Parking Sensors.

*On board computer.

*Front and rear armrests with storage in both.

*4 x electric windows.

*Electric mirrors.

*Roof rails.

*3 rear headrests and 3 proper rear seatbelts.

*Remote central locking with auto window closure.

*Immobiliser and alarm.

*Retractable dog guard (an expensive optional extra as I understand it).

*Audi taylored floor mats.

*Power Steering.

*ABS.

*16” alloys.

*Extra 12V socket in the boot.

*Courtesy/ambient lighting in every footwell and on every door.

*Front spotlights/fogs.

*Cupholders everywhere.

*Storage cubby-holes all over the place (and under the front seats).

*Audi tool-kit and warning triangle.

*Retractable rear parcel shelf.

*Headlamp washers that rise up out of the bumperetc etc etc etc………….tons more featureslisted in the manuals



-109K miles, so almost run-in. Drives like a new car.

-Only 2 previous owners (both millionaires and very careful lol).

-Taxed until the end of March 2009.

-MOT’d until April 2009.

-Circa 28 mpg on a motorway run.

-Circa 23 mpg around town.

-Group 17 insurance (around £300 for me to insure).

-NO lights on on the dash (check control display).

The car has been local to here since new and has Lockyear Audi history from new, and then comprehensive history from a local garage ever since (who still know the car if you have any questions). Comes with all old MOT's and tax discs too.

Effortless, fast, smooth, extremely quiet, powerful, high quality, spacious, practical 150mph estate car.
The silver one

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forgot to mention the subaru was a 97 p, have seen y reg new shape mondeo diesel estates at auction for £1250, a mate bought it,1 owner,history,black metallic,drove mint, also seen focus td estates do just under £1500 on a 51 plate with nice miles (70k)
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Audi or vw Passat

You can get a very nice S2 avant for good money

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I did see that one mate but its miles from here and it hasnt got the sporty bumpers!!
It has, and its a facelift car too, much better buy

edit,,, just seen its a v6 not a tdci,, still prefer it though-lol
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Originally Posted by maxest
It has, and its a facelift car too, much better buy

edit,,, just seen its a v6 not a tdci,, still prefer it though-lol
Dont think they are mate, the fogs look different, plus thats a petrol one, hence being cheaper .

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lol, just seen your edit!!!!
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Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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its been said, but size wise, the mondeo is a fair bit bigger, a lot more boot space and the a4's rear leg room is minimal
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i had a 130 zetec s and they go well but suffer problems like check diesel pump as the seals go in them, Duel mass fly wheel, starter motor etc, come to think of it go for an audi at least they dont suffer as bad with rust.
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i have a pug 406 estate, and i have to say,its the best "normal" car i have ever owned. I use it to tow my cars to trackdays, does 60mpg on a good run, and its done 160k and drives like new. I hated Pugs till i bought this
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If you're toying with the idea of the A4 and you're not a badge snob. why not look for a Octavia estate.

Heres a 2005 TDI with 94K on the clock for 1500 of your hard earned..

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/747547.htm

I've never had one or been in one, so no idea what they are like, but if you only want one for about a year, gotta be worth a look
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sounds very cheep does that and if it is a real ad with no funny buisness going on i would think you'll be lucky to chip it down to 15
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If you want something to smoke around in for a year or so cheaply, I personally would avoid the mk3 mondeo diesel - Chances are at that mileage the dual mass flywheel will be on its last legs, expect a 4 figure sum to replace it

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/727994.htm

How about something like this?
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Chris

This is the car for you......And as it is Huw selling it, it will be FUCKING MINT

https://passionford.com/forum/cars-for-sale/262089-vauxhall-vectra-gsi-estate-special-build-press-car.html
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I did that Vectra tiff but it will be a killer on juice for me!!! If it were a diesel i'd be well tempted!!!!

Whats this dual mass flywheel thing? Is it likely to be covered under a warranty?

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I did that Vectra tiff but it will be a killer on juice for me!!! If it were a diesel i'd be well tempted!!!!

Whats this dual mass flywheel thing? Is it likely to be covered under a warranty?

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Highly unlikely to be a warranty thing. Not really too sure how it works, but its some fancy flywheel that commonly go wrong on a lot of newer cars, and cost £££££ to put right!!
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Am really liking that that Zetec S, will probably swap my Mondeo for one of those. I would avoid red though, or at least give it a good check over, as the bumpers tend to go 'off colour' and look darker than the rest of the car.

Had an Audi A4 TDI for a year or so. Was an excellent worthy car, and I'm a big fan of German motors, but it was completely devoid of soul.
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i love the look of this one

http://pistonheads.com/sales/737309.htm
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Of those two on pure cosmetics I think the mondy look better and more modern, no nothing other than that lol!!!

oh, and times is tough, haggle hard!!!
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Originally Posted by steviecossie
i love the look of this one

http://pistonheads.com/sales/737309.htm

i knew the previous owner of that car, well the one that did all the mods?

the porsche cayenne turbo calipers are massive
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I know Ford do a 150bhp 2.2 TDCi but for some reason i can only find it in the saloon version

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/lis...ter=TP&o=q&pc=

I had a 2.0 Mondeo TDCi Ghia X, was an amazing car really for the money
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tonight i saw a 02 02 audi a6 1.9 sport auto tdi estate in silver with very nice leather and big alloys,direct from arnold clark warrented miles and with a trial do £3250 provisionaly, had 91k miles under its belt and looked a great car
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Chris, my friend is selling a cheap BMW 320D SE Touring,, with nav,, 01-51 86k,,, £4250.00... Silver with silver leather.. nice car
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Originally Posted by R7BKR
If you're toying with the idea of the A4 and you're not a badge snob. why not look for a Octavia estate.

Heres a 2005 TDI with 94K on the clock for 1500 of your hard earned..

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/747547.htm

I've never had one or been in one, so no idea what they are like, but if you only want one for about a year, gotta be worth a look
Thats suspiciously cheap for an 05 model.

I love my tdi Octavia estate, 110bhp with a remap, does 55-60mpg, big enough for all our crap, went to the Nurburgring in july, just get the badge snobs looking down their noses at you, but fuck 'em!


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Out of the ones i've driven the Audi A6 avant was my favourite. They still look reasonable, drive great and are very solid. I really fancy an A6 2.5tdi 180 sport quattro as my next car.

For sheer cheapness and to get a very new car with low mileage and lots of toys i'd recommend the Renault Laguna. The prices they go for are just silly cheap and they are all 5 star ncap rated. I currently have one and its really good, just doesn't have the sporty drive of the Audi or feel as solid.
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For sheer cheapness and to get a very new car with low mileage and lots of toys i'd recommend the Renault Laguna. The prices they go for are just silly cheap and they are all 5 star ncap rated. I currently have one and its really good, just doesn't have the sporty drive of the Audi or feel as solid.
They're cheap for a reason though - Mate had one, and had no end of electrical problems, and the engine eventually ate itself. When he was trying to get the electrical stuff sorted he was turned away from two garages as they "wouldn't touch them"!
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Chris, my friend is selling a cheap BMW 320D SE Touring,, with nav,, 01-51 86k,,, £4250.00... Silver with silver leather.. nice car
You got any more info on that mate?

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