if you read earlier in the thread, jonnybravo managed that with FWD

 

The other thing you have to take into account is alot of people build there cars for themselves and not for anyone else. They are not bothered with competing against others and proving there times.

Some cars just have better geometry for strip work, The old Rover 220's were superb out of the box. My mate AndyR's old 220 Turbo was a 11.9 sec car with hardly any development. That was on 215 Dunlop Road legal drag tyres aswell. I bet you could build that car including buying it for less than £3.5k now.

 

lol , that's cheating though . Mind you so is nitrous

 

so is a turbo, or a supercharger


oh well... i'm off to build an enormous v8

 

That's what i mean , FWD cars can launch just as good as RWD ones on the same tyres .

 

Nah mate , they are proper mechanical parts .
Nitrous is just spray in bhp that needs refilling every few runs , they even call them "cheater" kits on the web site !

 

but it's still just a power adder... just like pumping more air into your engine, just a different way of doing it


anyway, specky's tigra without gas still runs a 11.6

 

The corsa's 13.2 sec run on street tyres is far more of an achievement than stuffing a load of gas down it's throat and praying it holds together for 11.5 secs in my opinion .
No doubt chip won't like my opinion as all his mates NEED nitrous to beat everything else and he hates anyone mentioning their gas installs !

 

int it more of a case that vauxhalls wont go round corners? so they jus put all there effort into goin in straight lines?
plus i like all my leather in my escos i dont wanna strip it all out

 

My old XR ZT did a 13.1 on toyo R888s with a 60ft of a shit 2.29.

MK managed a 12.6 on road tyres with a 60ft of 2.11!

My next Fiesta will be cracking sub 2 seconds...hopefully

 

yeah but i'll think you will find that when going for 1/4 mile times as i'm sure alot of chips mates do nitrous is the cheapest dare I say most efficient way of upping the power. WON kits are the best.

 

Have to disagree unless you mean with mega suspension mods to the FWD and not to the RWD?

 

Yes turbos and superchargers are power adders BUT they don't need re-filling every few runs do they and are mechanical .

 

The corsa and nova's don't have mega suspension mods to do good solid 0-60 foots . They are just light and powerfull machines and have nothing fancy/expensive done to their suspension .

 

i agree
id rather see some good times without gas

 

Too right mate , proper cars don't need nitrous to help them run fast numbers

 

proper cars don't need nitrous is a very blinkered attitude, maybe if more fwd ford owners had a play with the gas there times would be up with the nova's and corsa's.

Have you ever been in a car fitted with gas? I doubt it.

 

in fact if you took gas completely out of the equision would the vaux boys be much quicker than the fords?
i dont know of many if any quick rs turbos that run gas?

 

saw a fiesta on youtube run a 10.9 or something like that.front wheel drive?maybe be wrong but surely thats keeping with the vauxhall boys

 

Gas is cheating??



Next you all will be saying boost is cheating



What a bunch of clueless Cunts, no wonder the Ford boys struggle to do well in 1/4 miles.

 

yes because speckys tigra runs 11.6 WITHOUT ANY NITROUS.



yeh cause it is LMFAO

 

just like your turbo and supercharged cars need the fuel tank filling



althou that is correct in they dont have mega suspension mods i dont think your giving the standard set-up the credit its due, they dont need alot of work because there so good, unlike the ford FWD stuff that does not seam to be that good from the factory

 

NO they aren't quicker than the fords . They are only as fast as x-flow powered mk1 fiestas that run low 13's on street tyres . If the x-flow fietas also had 150+bhp of gas they would run low 11's .

 

Yes , all my mates have gas . Their cars also go 2 seconds faster at Santa Pod with it switched on .

 

so are their cars not 'proper' cars? Just don't understand why you don't approve of it?

I agree its good to have a fast car without it but when going for 1/4 mile times it would seem silly not to.

And mate those vauxhalls are fast off gas just even faster with it.

 

lol funny thread this, i think red tops are alot better than zetec in standard form

is this the purple corsa with nos that was at pod saturday

il be running in the 10`s next year in the mk3 hopefully, but im 4wd and can drive

the royal nail van was only 380bhp no nos and i did 11.53 @ 120mph and 1.61 60ft

 

Yes i agree but you could put 200bhp of gas on a stripped out standard zetec fiesta and run a rapid 1/4 mile time if it stays together . The same car would be slow without the gas though so this is what i mean when i say i'm more impressed with the corsa 13.2 sec N/A run on street tyres WITHOUT gas . This is true and excellent performance

 

tw@

thying is you know youre wrong and baiting us, so no point in actually putting together a competent reply

 

WTF is your point then ? There are 150-180bhp x-flow mk1 fiestas that run low 13's on street rubber WITHOUT gas the same as that Corsa does . They have less cc's as well so less power and torque than a 2 litre XE which is a far better engine to start with than a 1970's pushrod engine .
I'm not baiting you i'm Telling you the truth as usual .

 

where are they all then ???

 

One of them is no more as it's engines in a hill climb Anglia race car .
The other one is about and is a sleeper XR2 mk1 in black . It has a 150bhp x-flow motor and runs low 13's at Santa Pod . They are finally catching on and i know a few being built , they will all run low 13's without gas for sure

 

RS2.7 - My mates road legal rwd car runs low 1.4 60ft's on treads, You would do 2 sec 60ft's in a Sierra GLSi

I thought Gaz'd put it into the 12's off gas with the new engine ?, Olly Hewitt ran a 13.4 with only 181hp in his old nova.

As far as I'm aware nobody has run a 10 on treads yet

 

That is because there geared for it, everyone we have mentioned has cars capable of over 160mph not 120@9k

 

RS2.7, some plain and simple facts for you:

Fastest OFF NITROUS vauxhall in the UK on street legal tyres FWD = 11.6
Fastest ON NITROUS vauxhall in the UK on street legal tyres FWD = 11.5
Fastest 60ft FWD Vauxhall on street legal tyres = 1.8
Fastest 60ft RWD Vauxhall on street legal tyres = 1.5
Highest place in HANDLING at TOTB this year for a vauxhall = 2nd


EVERYTHING you are saying, as per every thread you ever post in, is absolute bollocks cause you havent got a clue what you are talking about, why dont you just sit and read and learn, rather than keep coming out with endless bollocks all the time?

 

Probably mate, but I was saying what the fastest I had personally seen it run off gas was, which was in february 2006, and it was snowing at the time, it ran a 13.2 then (on a 2.3 60ft IIRC) but of course its an easy 12 second car if they wanted to run it without the gas im sure, Ive just not seen them do so again since personally.

 

Any pics of this road legal 1.4 sec 0-60foot on street tyres motor then please ?
Kev Warns mk2 rs2000 runs 11.1 secs at 135mph at Santa Pod on R888 street tyres . Almost certain to run a 10 soon on street rubber WITHOUT gas

 

Just to prove they are treaded :



Runs a 9.8

 

My point was you will need serious suspension mods (if its even possible at all!) to match the fastest RWD 60ft times.

 

Love that car Jonboy

Still a snail compared to steve patemans calibra though of course, lol

 

He is just talking utter shit, as per usual, he NEVER says anything correct, ever.

Fastest street legal 60ft on BUDGET rwd cars are around the 1.5 mark, you will NOT get that in the uk on a fwd car that is a genuine road car on road legal tyres and built for a sensible budget, its just not going to happen at all.