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Old 22-09-2008, 03:20 PM
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Default F1 FIA Appeal hearing

So then guys, today is the day. What do we all think the outcome will be?

Even though i am a mad Massa fan, I believe Hamiltons punishment was unfair, and unjust.

Unfortunately I think the penalty will stand - mainly because of the fact a drive through penalty cannot be appealed in the first place, as opposed to the FIA taking a pro-ferrari stance........

Discuss.......
Old 22-09-2008, 03:32 PM
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i saw it and i cant make my mind up

firstly i dont watch and are not into f1 enough to make a valid result. but, i thoguht hamilton let him go back past and thats that. it jus happened that hami took him on the next bend which he may have doen anyway?

he could've kept ahead but he let him pass.

jus let him keep the points.
Old 22-09-2008, 03:36 PM
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it seems that the majority think that it was an offence but i do think the punishment was harsh to say the least
Old 22-09-2008, 03:53 PM
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The penalty will stand. The FIA never accept being wrong.
Old 22-09-2008, 04:03 PM
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I donot think the fia will back down iam a ferrari fan but that was a bit harsh on hammy
Old 22-09-2008, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by TDEzzy85
The penalty will stand. The FIA never accept being wrong.
As much as I dont feel it was the right decision and I do think what you said is right.

Nobody even at Monza seemed to know the actual rule on it so if anyone did do a "illegal" overtake then they would sit back for a few seconds to make it obvious that they had held back, personally I think Hamilton done enough and if the Ferrari wasn't quick enough to hold him off down that straight then its tough, the muppet still stacked it anyway which was clearly Mclarens fault for even being within 10 miles of them
Old 22-09-2008, 04:12 PM
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what are they contesting?
the fact that there was a "legitemate" (in maclarens eyes) giving back of the robbed place by cutting over the grass and gaining a big advantage

or

the severity of the penatly?

either way, i can't see either of them not sticking

the hamster didn't give it up cleanly enough and 6kmph on a straight where they were reaching 150 mph is not a lot really

and the penalty is just for the reasons due to it ebing in the ruels that it's the penatly you will recive if you break the ruels at that point in the race

i don't think it's a harsh decision handed out seeing as he would have more than likely passed him in the next lap or so, but it was a very sportsmanlike move which is how they will see it

don't forget, if they make too much of a song and dance about it, ron will lose even more hair so that's why he's taking it very easy
Old 22-09-2008, 04:16 PM
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anyway, we won't know till they tell us tomorrow, so forget about it and think about btcc instead
Old 22-09-2008, 04:18 PM
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Hamilton should have waited till the next lap to be in the clear,was a harsh penalty but can see it standing imo.
Old 22-09-2008, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by KSA-Cossie
Hamilton should have waited till the next lap to be in the clear,was a harsh penalty but can see it standing imo.
next lap

what is F1 now a lesurly drive with mates i thought it was a fooking race there are to many stupid rules in the sport that they put down to safty but are just to rig the outcome of the sport
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Agree with you m8,but,if he had waited to be safe ther would be no hearing.
Old 22-09-2008, 06:00 PM
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Next lap. Surely you meant next corner.

Dojj - GRASS!!?? Do you have a completely different TV system from the rest of the world?

I'm going to buck the trend and say he will get it back.

There was an awful lot of clarification going on at Monza, which shows the rules at the time were a very grey area. Now sorted, so under the old rules he should keep it.

Wonder how many rule re-writes LH will cause in his career. Much like a certain German fellow who used to race in a Fiat.
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Bollox,yeah next corner Next fookin lap .
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from the courtroom itself, as reported by the official press guy who was on the radio doing an interview, the case in question lasted around 5.5 hours
2 hours of which was to put teh case that the penalty was appealable or not, then to decide if it was a drive through penalty of a time penalty

it will be upheld as it's in the rules

maclarean aren't even questioning that it shouldn't have been lewis getting penalised either, it's the fact that they say it's a time penalty as they have had time added to the clock, even though the rules state that a drive through penalty cannot be contested and that if it occours in the last 5 laps of the race it's a 25 second time addition to your finishing time

as much as i'd like to say he'll get his points back and it'll be on the home straight, he's gonna get fucked
Old 22-09-2008, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TDEzzy85
The penalty will stand. The FIA never accept being wrong.
They do actually, they disqualified ferrari and schumacher a few years back because one of the sidepods winglets was too wide, but they appealed and won, but then again it was ferrari......
Old 22-09-2008, 09:59 PM
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wat was the result
Old 22-09-2008, 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
wat was the result
Not known until tomorrow.
Old 23-09-2008, 12:40 PM
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any updates ???
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not yet
Old 23-09-2008, 12:58 PM
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Hes a 'British' driver. No-body likes the British so I think we're on a losing battle here...
Like the Minis at Monte Carlo - if we get too good the rest of europe doesnt like it.
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on sky news just now, appeal is rejected
Old 23-09-2008, 02:20 PM
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Yeah i can't believe they said it was inadmissable after all this time
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/7627941.stm
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sorry to post jack but Alan did you get my PM ?
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