General Car Related Discussion. To discuss anything that is related to cars and automotive technology that doesnt naturally fit into another forum catagory.

The new dyno thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 17-09-2008, 07:57 PM
  #1  
JamesH
10K+ Poster!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (21)
 
JamesH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: .
Posts: 10,807
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default The new dyno thread

Off we go then, as there was no explanation as to why the last one was locked
JamesH is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 07:59 PM
  #2  
GaryHurn
I've found that life I needed.. It's HERE!!
iTrader: (1)
 
GaryHurn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: south wales
Posts: 1,153
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

GaryHurn is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:00 PM
  #3  
JamesH
10K+ Poster!!
Thread Starter
iTrader: (21)
 
JamesH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: .
Posts: 10,807
Received 8 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Continuing from here: https://passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/259330-fao-mike-rainbird-re-tuv-approval.html
JamesH is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:03 PM
  #4  
Mark Shead
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Mark Shead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Marlow Bucks
Posts: 5,472
Received 223 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by James90RS
Off we go then, as there was no explanation as to why the last one was locked
The trouble is you need to keep it sensible and as Mike is a mod his ass was getting handed to him, So it was only expected to last a short time before another mod locked it for him.

Mark
Mark Shead is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:03 PM
  #5  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

prob not the best idea to start another!!

i do think the other should have been closed it was gettin a lil bit ott and just to say if TSM reads this i would like to say i agree mike should step down as a moderator due to his lack of rule obeying . . . so i can have a shot at it jokes !!
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:03 PM
  #6  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

personally I think mikes insults of late are out of order, other users have been banned for less
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:05 PM
  #7  
Garage19
PassionFord Post Troll
 
Garage19's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Nr Ipswich
Posts: 3,446
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I think you should all kiss, make up and get back to normal.
Garage19 is offline  

Trending Topics

Old 17-09-2008, 08:06 PM
  #8  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The trouble is you need to keep it sensible and as Mike is a mod his ass was getting handed to him, So it was only expected to last a short time before another mod locked it for him.

Mark
i dissagree i think he was doing well

mark this next bit is not aimed at you . .


i would also like to say as i think mike said in the last thread our dyno was tuv approved for fords to do their puma engine work on it
the dyno before the last time or re checking was within 0.3 bhp
and is still within 1 bhp of mountunes
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:06 PM
  #9  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

perhaps mike is at that age and is going through a midlife crisis
I am to old for one of those now
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:07 PM
  #10  
JTECH James
Passion for Fords!
iTrader: (13)
 
JTECH James's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Devon/Blackpool
Posts: 10,754
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Garage19
I think you should all kiss, make up and get back to normal.


is this really what pf is about?
JTECH James is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:08 PM
  #11  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
perhaps mike is at that age and is going through a midlife crisis

or your at that age to keep winding people up
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:08 PM
  #12  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J1mbo
i dissagree i think he was doing well

mark this next bit is not aimed at you . .


i would also like to say as i think mike said in the last thread our dyno was tuv approved for fords to do their puma engine work on it
the dyno before the last time or re checking was within 0.3 bhp
and is still within 1 bhp of mountunes
Jimbo your not biased for any reason that we are not aware of are you lol
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:11 PM
  #13  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
Jimbo your not biased for any reason that we are not aware of are you lol
haha
when i am on this forum i try to stay as neutral (spelling) as possible so i can see other peoples point of view but when i see a good friend getting slated i am obviously gonna try and help out lol but like i say he was doing alryt on his own !!
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:12 PM
  #14  
Mark Shead
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Mark Shead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Marlow Bucks
Posts: 5,472
Received 223 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J1mbo
i dissagree i think he was doing well

mark this next bit is not aimed at you . .


i would also like to say as i think mike said in the last thread our dyno was tuv approved for fords to do their puma engine work on it
the dyno before the last time or re checking was within 0.3 bhp
and is still within 1 bhp of mountunes
The calibration and acuacy of the dyno is not in question, It is the said TUV aproval that was harped on about for as long as I can remeber, That was used in part to discredit the dyno I use saying the figs could not be trusted as it does not have TUV approval, As it happens yours does not have it either,
It doesnt matter that it did once and you could not carry out any work for Ford until it gets reaproved,
This is the bone of contetion nothing more.

Mark
Mark Shead is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:14 PM
  #15  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J1mbo
haha
when i am on this forum i try to stay as neutral (spelling) as possible so i can see other peoples point of view but when i see a good friend getting slated i am obviously gonna try and help out lol but like i say he was doing alryt on his own !!
No he wasn't
he lowered himself to denial and personal abuse and insults to pf users and their family
which I shall report to the powers above him and not for the first time either
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:14 PM
  #16  
MikeR
PassionFord Post Whore!!

 
MikeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Jimbob has a hard job understanding this simple point Mark

Mike
MikeR is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:15 PM
  #17  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The calibration and acuacy of the dyno is not in question, It is the said TUV aproval that was harped on about for as long as I can remeber, That was used in part to discredit the dyno I use saying the figs could not be trusted as it does not have TUV approval, As it happens yours does not have it either,
It doesnt matter that it did once and you could not carry out any work for Ford until it gets reaproved,
This is the bone of contetion nothing more.

Mark
aye of course im just saying the figures produced on our dyno are very accurate and probably up to tuv approval standards also the temp probes are positioned so it does not get high correction figures so everything is spot on

im not questioning the point in hand im just saying you (not you anyone) cant call our figures un accurate
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:15 PM
  #18  
Martin-Hadland
1st to 200 without NOS
iTrader: (2)
 
Martin-Hadland's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 119 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The calibration and acuacy of the dyno is not in question, It is the said TUV aproval that was harped on about for as long as I can remeber, That was used in part to discredit the dyno I use saying the figs could not be trusted as it does not have TUV approval, As it happens yours does not have it either,
It doesnt matter that it did once and you could not carry out any work for Ford until it gets reaproved,
This is the bone of contetion nothing more.

Mark
Ok after all that has been said, how long would a TUV approval last for? And who does it? ... Just interested not wanting to slag the Mad crew or bully Mike.
Martin-Hadland is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:17 PM
  #19  
vikingboy
PassionFord Regular
 
vikingboy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 494
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The trouble is you need to keep it sensible and as Mike is a mod his ass was getting handed to him, So it was only expected to last a short time before another mod locked it for him.

Mark
ROTFL!
vikingboy is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:17 PM
  #20  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The calibration and acuacy of the dyno is not in question, It is the said TUV aproval that was harped on about for as long as I can remeber, That was used in part to discredit the dyno I use saying the figs could not be trusted as it does not have TUV approval, As it happens yours does not have it either,
It doesnt matter that it did once and you could not carry out any work for Ford until it gets reaproved,
This is the bone of contetion nothing more.

Mark
+1
mike has constantly put down other tuners achievements past and present
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:17 PM
  #21  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
No he wasn't
he lowered himself to denial and personal abuse and insults to pf users and their family
which I shall report to the powers above him and not for the first time either
okii point taken i will leave that to you

Originally Posted by Captain Mike
Jimbob has a hard job understanding this simple point Mark

Mike
mike as i just said i am making another point not refeering to what subject you are talking about
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:18 PM
  #22  
Chip
*** Sierra RS Custard ***
iTrader: (3)
 
Chip's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 47,250
Received 22 Likes on 14 Posts
Default

The other thread was locked by me,, just to cancel out the mods conspiracy theory.

I felt that Mike probably needed a bit of time to calm down as he had got so offended and started throwing insults at his friends etc, I just didnt feel there was any value in the thread continuing, it had done what I meant for it to do in terms of people knowing the truth about the dynos in question, and I saw no point in it just continuing as a row until it got moved to the spit your dummy room where it wouldnt have been visible to people searching on the site for MAD or Norris or TUV etc in future if they too had heard the rumours.
Chip is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:19 PM
  #23  
fuzzy
14000+ post superhero
 
fuzzy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: upside down in a field
Posts: 17,459
Received 490 Likes on 383 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF


is this really what pf is about?
it certianly is. and everybody knows it.
fuzzy is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:19 PM
  #24  
RS500
Advanced PassionFord User
 
RS500's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 1,564
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Dyno figures are bullshit anyway
What it really puts on the road is more important.
RS500 is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:20 PM
  #25  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J1mbo
aye of course im just saying the figures produced on our dyno are very accurate and probably up to tuv approval standards also the temp probes are positioned so it does not get high correction figures so everything is spot on

im not questioning the point in hand im just saying you (not you anyone) cant call our figures un accurate
nobody calls harveys figures inaccurate it is Mike that accuses everyone else's of being wrong
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:21 PM
  #26  
PAUL V
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
PAUL V's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: shropshire
Posts: 788
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
The calibration and acuacy of the dyno is not in question, It is the said TUV aproval that was harped on about for as long as I can remeber, That was used in part to discredit the dyno I use saying the figs could not be trusted as it does not have TUV approval, As it happens yours does not have it either,
It doesnt matter that it did once and you could not carry out any work for Ford until it gets reaproved,
This is the bone of contetion nothing more.

Mark
Not wishing to poor more fuel on the fire but when did mike say the tuv thing ?? can somone put the link to the post
PAUL V is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:22 PM
  #27  
PAUL V
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
PAUL V's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: shropshire
Posts: 788
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
nobody calls harveys figures inaccurate it is Mike that accuses everyone else's of being wrong
Again When has he said this tony ?
PAUL V is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:22 PM
  #28  
Mark Shead
PassionFord Post Whore!!
 
Mark Shead's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Marlow Bucks
Posts: 5,472
Received 223 Likes on 193 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Ok after all that has been said, how long would a TUV approval last for? And who does it? ... Just interested not wanting to slag the Mad crew or bully Mike.

I dont know but would expect yearly as with most aproveals, Simon spoke to Superflow about it after I ask him about it,
There reply was a waste of time unless you need it for a company that insists on it.

Mark
Mark Shead is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:23 PM
  #29  
MikeR
PassionFord Post Whore!!

 
MikeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J1mbo
aye of course im just saying the figures produced on our dyno are very accurate and probably up to tuv approval standards also the temp probes are positioned so it does not get high correction figures so everything is spot on

im not questioning the point in hand im just saying you (not you anyone) cant call our figures un accurate
Jim you have just left school so you should be fair fresh with simple things, l will spell this out really easy for you

NO BODY IS QUESTIONING YOUR DADDYS FIGURES

what they are doing is giving Mike shit for saying TUV approved when it appears it is not!!!!

You need to stop getting so defensive, l bet your old man does not give a rats arse what people say on PF about TUV

If you dont understand any of the above feel free to ask for a repeat

Mike
MikeR is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:24 PM
  #30  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by PAUL V
Not wishing to poor more fuel on the fire but when did mike say the tuv thing ?? can somone put the link to the post
probably on every topic where someone posts their cosworth dyno figures that are more than mikes engine and not on harvey's dyno ,
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:25 PM
  #31  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
nobody calls harveys figures inaccurate it is Mike that accuses everyone else's of being wrong

yeah point taken
i just wanted everyone to know what sort of differences to tuv standards our dyno is at. So everyone saying its not tuv aproved,
the dyno is still accrate.

just something i wanted to add even though its off topic
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:26 PM
  #32  
Fagin
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Fagin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Ok after all that has been said, how long would a TUV approval last for? And who does it? ... Just interested not wanting to slag the Mad crew or bully Mike.
I thought calibration needed to be done once every year?!
Fagin is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:27 PM
  #33  
MikeR
PassionFord Post Whore!!

 
MikeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

You wanted to add it because you are defending your daddy wish is understandable,

WooHoo Mr Norris is in the house,

Simon your figures are crap cause you aint TUV approved, the bogey dont make the power you claim

Mike
MikeR is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:27 PM
  #34  
PAUL V
Too many posts.. I need a life!!
 
PAUL V's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: shropshire
Posts: 788
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
probably on every topic where someone posts their cosworth dyno figures that are more than mikes engine and not on harvey's dyno ,
I think this is a witch hunt as i know mike does not say what BHP his engine has so how can he compair.

I dont think he does "diss" any tunners TBH
PAUL V is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:27 PM
  #35  
Simon Norris
Wahay!! I've lost my Virginity!!
 
Simon Norris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Corsham
Posts: 63
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RS500
Dyno figures are bullshit anyway
What it really puts on the road is more important.
160.09Mph in 1/4 mile, is that a good road figure for a non TUV approved dyno showing 928Hp? Heheheh

Cheers

Si
Simon Norris is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:28 PM
  #36  
Martin-Hadland
1st to 200 without NOS
iTrader: (2)
 
Martin-Hadland's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Birmingham
Posts: 12,304
Likes: 0
Received 119 Likes on 80 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I dont know but would expect yearly as with most aproveals, Simon spoke to Superflow about it after I ask him about it,
There reply was a waste of time unless you need it for a company that insists on it.

Mark
Just wondering if their approval is for how the dyno is set up and how accurate it becomes because of that method rather than them calling out to check? If they actually come out and check it yearly that would be fine for a dyno used for a reasonable amount of work but imagine one that's used everyday, a lot can happen in a year.
Martin-Hadland is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:28 PM
  #37  
Turbosystems
Super Moderator

iTrader: (5)
 
Turbosystems's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: home
Posts: 12,849
Received 50 Likes on 43 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by J1mbo
yeah point taken
i just wanted everyone to know what sort of differences to tuv standards our dyno is at. So everyone saying its not tuv aproved,
the dyno is still accrate.


just something i wanted to add even though its off topic
exactly, so why is norris dyno inaccurate then according to mike ,is it because marks and rods figures are far more than mike has ever seen on your dads dyno
Turbosystems is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:28 PM
  #38  
J1mbo
B1mbo
iTrader: (1)
 
J1mbo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Peterborough
Posts: 14,986
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by Captain Mike
Jim you have just left school so you should be fair fresh with simple things, l will spell this out really easy for you

NO BODY IS QUESTIONING YOUR DADDYS FIGURES

what they are doing is giving Mike shit for saying TUV approved when it appears it is not!!!!

You need to stop getting so defensive, l bet your old man does not give a rats arse what people say on PF about TUV

If you dont understand any of the above feel free to ask for a repeat

Mike
dont treat me like a fucking twat i completely understand that like i have said in 2 posts i wanted to say that so people who dont understand much about dyno/tuv blah blah blah can understand just because it is not tuv approved dyno's can still be tuv accurate

ffs i was making a point is that a crime !!!!!!!!
J1mbo is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:30 PM
  #39  
MikeR
PassionFord Post Whore!!

 
MikeR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: In a house
Posts: 6,711
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

How busy would a company have to be to have a designated individual working an Engine dyno every day? pretty dam busy l would think

Mike
MikeR is offline  
Old 17-09-2008, 08:30 PM
  #40  
Fagin
Advanced PassionFord User
 
Fagin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 2,114
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Approvals for chassis dyno's are done on site afaik...... fook knows how though!
Fagin is offline  


Quick Reply: The new dyno thread



All times are GMT. The time now is 02:27 AM.