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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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i have heard alot about these 3 bar map senser wot is it and wot do they do
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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MAP Stands for Manifold Absolute Pressure, It sends a signal to the ecu regarding how much air is entering the engine
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:40 PM
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As above but the 3 bar refers to its pressure range.

This is 2 bar boost + 1 bar atmosphere = total 3 bar.

1 bar is the same as 14.5 psi roughly


You can ONLY fit one of these if your ecu chip is programmed for it.

The standard car one on a sierra for example is a 2 bar sensor.... 1 bar boost + 1 bar atmosphere


Basically, you change this sensor to allow more boost to be used.

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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i got one for sale if anyone interested
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:44 PM
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LOL @ rst Watch out for the gestapo
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 07:58 PM
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Sean2k - are you the same fella that bought an RS500?
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Originally Posted by Flux Capacitor
LOL @ rst Watch out for the gestapo
the what? lol
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:07 PM
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Look here .... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gestapo

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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:37 PM
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how can you tell if the sensor is standard or 3 bar ? -
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:40 PM
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Generally... Standard sensors are totally black and the 3 bar is black and grey.
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standards are usualy all black, 3 bars are black base with grey outer, prob other ways but thats the easiest that i know of
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cunt you got in 1st
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:41 PM
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cunt you got in 1st
LOL, dont you just hate that when it happens. I am the one who is usually second
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:48 PM
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boo
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gazm
how can you tell if the sensor is standard or 3 bar ? -
check if it has 3 bars on it
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:54 PM
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ok - will check - I have question for all - bog standard escos or blinged up escos engine, which would be the more desirable as Im in a dilema - not sure which way to go as car ive just bought has a new ford lump standard done 2k and a few samco hoses but not all also has a shiny breather tank and a k &n apart from that the rest is standard. do you carry one and finish the job or go back to as ford intended?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:57 PM
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gazm,
When i got my escos I kept it standard for 6 months... then I just could not resist modding it !!!

It really is down to personal preference ! I didnt like bling that much myself but all the mods were done for power !
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 08:58 PM
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what year esccos, is is a small turbo or big turbo?

imho go for stage3 kinda power, it's cheap and reliable if well maintained.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:02 PM
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hmmm, I know what you mean mate, but when you see a totally standard car they do look the dogs, specially if its looked after, and they do seem to fetch good money if standard these days, but someone sort of had a go at moddin it but never quite got there, saying that some of the member cars on here look superb when done.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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Jim

Its a big turbo. new out of the crate from ford yb - not rebuilt and it has 803s and a weber ecu ? not the standard ford one,
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the standard cossie large turbo ecu was a weber !!!

Hard to believe ford would supply 803's. I dont think you will find its original !
Where did you get it ?

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yeah the injectors wouldn't have came from the factory, if its runnin greens its prob st3 already in which case it should already have a 3 bar in it, what kind boost does it run, that should give it away?
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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^ ditto

also is it fast or slow, as standard cossies are slow and stage3 cossies are fast
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:21 PM
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It should run around 21 to 23 psi depending on turbo and chip.
That will give it a nice kick up the ass ! about 310 to 330 bhp.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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No youre right - the greens were put in after by the garage that put it in for the owner , the engine was standard internally, I have been told that the gasket was a group a when put together,. the car was then sold to the garage (tgr nmotorsport) who put the YB in, I had it from them. I have heard it run but have not driven it as yet, as the rads are not in, and needs finishing so thats why wondering which way to go with it.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gazm
how can you tell if the sensor is standard or 3 bar ? -
Standard normally has APS 02/03 and 3 bar has APS01/05 ...
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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The cossie was on ebay - yous might have seen it - petrol blue with oz alloys and morrettes. They were considering selling as rolling shell - interior and engine all separate !! couldnt have that.
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Old Sep 8, 2008 | 09:30 PM
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ok thanks Martin.
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
the what? lol
Have you not seen Allo Allo?
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Old Sep 9, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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thanks lads most helpfully
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Originally Posted by sean2k
thanks lads most helpfully
you still buying a 500?
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