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Old 07-09-2008, 01:10 PM
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when trying to start it keeps running backward for some reason all timing is correct im a bit puzzled
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WTF; what you on about?
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running backwards? rolling backwards ?
Old 07-09-2008, 01:13 PM
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i think he means the engine is turning the wrong way
Old 07-09-2008, 01:14 PM
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is it when cranking or when it trys to fire it runs opposite ?
Old 07-09-2008, 01:18 PM
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Timing sounds like its out mate.
Do you mean it tries to fire then backfires and turns backwards then stops.
(maybe you have fitted a lhd starter lol)
Old 07-09-2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
WTF; what you on about?
when the engine is turning over its trying to fire and then the engine stops and tries to run backwards i have checked the timing and its all correct i have put a new map sensor on and tried a different ecu as well but this does not help any ideas cheers
Old 07-09-2008, 01:24 PM
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did you time the bottom end up on the lug of the pulley tdc 1 and not the groove next to it??
Old 07-09-2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by louie1
did you time the bottom end up on the lug of the pulley tdc 1 and not the groove next to it??
yes noticed that and check its ok thanks
Old 07-09-2008, 01:29 PM
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only other main thing is that you have the dizzy in the right place pointing at the indent in the metal housing of the dizzy.
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Originally Posted by louie1
only other main thing is that you have the dizzy in the right place pointing at the indent in the metal housing of the dizzy.
yep done that one also keep em coming lol much aprieciate it
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If the timing is ok and the dizzy is ok how can it run backwards?
the spark must be before TDC for it to fire backwards, somethings definately wrong
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Originally Posted by SteveH
If the timing is ok and the dizzy is ok how can it run backwards?
the spark must be before TDC for it to fire backwards, somethings definately wrong
tell me about it im going back to check again
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If the timings out you're lucky to not be bending valves
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have you removed the leads for any reason? what have you done before this went wrong.
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are the leads on the dizzy cap in reverse order maybe
Old 07-09-2008, 01:39 PM
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make sure the rotor arm is fixed on the shaft and not broken the little lug off
Old 07-09-2008, 01:43 PM
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Has the bottom pully still got the little lugs intact and not broken off that the sensor picks up ??


Dunno just a thought as they dont run without the lugs
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mine does it occasionally mate when its stopped just doesnt have the inertia to get past compression stroke,
so it just turns the opposite way until its off cam lobe
no probs only does it once in a while ...and yes timing spot on etc ..always thought it weird myself but just put it down to being a twin cam
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ive built this saf from a shell engine come from ebay ive just been back in garage took all leads off marked em all up and refitted to book specs .
rechecked timing its timed up correctly with the lug just before the v the rotar arm lines up with mark on dizzy all spot on it just wont run
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