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Old 26-08-2008, 11:34 PM
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Angry Welded Diff !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hello right ive bort a volvo 340 and welded the diff tonight

the car is so much more fun to drive

but it drives like a bag of crap lol

i rember reading on hear that it would still be a useble car

well where do i start the steering is very heavy trying to park the this is a pain

it screatches round every corner the more people the worse it is lol and the heavyer it is

every time i just want to drive round a dam roundabout it tryes to step out

has any one else done this???
Old 26-08-2008, 11:37 PM
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Welded diffs are fine once you are moving along, they are a bit of PITA at low speeds though.

Thing is though, the will exagerate a lack of front end grip, and most 340's have fucked racks and knackered bushes and really poor front end grip, so the rear gets even more say in where the front goes, if you weld up an MX5 though by comparison it drives surprisingly well still even at really low speeds.

So its as much cause the car is shit as cuse of the welder IMHO
Old 26-08-2008, 11:55 PM
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o dear lol well i think ill drive it til it breaks then scrap it lol any one want a volvo??
Old 27-08-2008, 08:19 AM
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ive had 2x Volvo 300 series with welders, and 3 other cars with them too, as well as driving god knows how many other peoples with them.

they fine, only ever notice them sub 5mph when turning tight corners, aside from that sort of speed a "proper" (ie not some shite standard viscous etc) diff feels the same.

id say your just a bit gay

DEFFO wouldnt say 340s/360s are any worse with them than any other cars either.
Old 27-08-2008, 08:26 AM
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I've drive the same car with 7 welded diff's in !! Lot's of people on here have been out in my car wit the welded in & as Stav/Chip say slow speeds you do feel the tyres scrubbin, but thats to be expected your'll also hear any play you have in the CWP, shafts, prop, diff mounts etc as the car scrubs.

As for the steerin, I can't really comment, I've not got PAS on mine & when parkin etc it's as heavy as fook anyways !! Didn't notice any major difference when fitted the welder in over the plated & standard items I had before !!

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Old 27-08-2008, 08:39 AM
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Its gonna screach and step out under cornering. Both wheels arent supposed to be turning at the same rate. Why did you weld it? These things are easy enough to get sideways as standard.
I suppose its a trade off between being proper mad funny and a proper pain in the rear.
Old 27-08-2008, 08:46 AM
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that stepping out thing is rubbish really, if anything they inrease understeer, just means once you make it oversteer they can be kept like it, wheras a gay open diff naturally pulls you back in.

Originally Posted by dunketh
Why did you weld it? These things are easy enough to get sideways as standard.
Get the back end out of a sec and hold sideways are 2 different things.

One you can do with an open diff, one you cant.

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Originally Posted by dunketh
Its gonna screach and step out under cornering. Both wheels arent supposed to be turning at the same rate. Why did you weld it? These things are easy enough to get sideways as standard.
I suppose its a trade off between being proper mad funny and a proper pain in the rear.
Your'd be suprised at how much they don't wanna "kick out" when cornering !!And you ONLY notice the scrubbing at VERY low speeds/tight corners.

It is good fun tho !!

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Old 27-08-2008, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Stavros
ive had 2x Volvo 300 series with welders, and 3 other cars with them too, as well as driving god knows how many other peoples with them.

they fine, only ever notice them sub 5mph when turning tight corners, aside from that sort of speed a "proper" (ie not some shite standard viscous etc) diff feels the same.

id say your just a bit gay

DEFFO wouldnt say 340s/360s are any worse with them than any other cars either.
you aint met my misses then? ive hear alot about u as it goes
Old 27-08-2008, 09:30 AM
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eh? ooooh i get it, was pretty obvious i didnt mean gay in a "sucking mens cocks way" wasnt it

dunno how youd hear anything about me tho
Old 27-08-2008, 09:44 AM
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just means once you make it oversteer they can be kept like it, wheras a gay open diff naturally pulls you back in.
lol.
They're meant for middle aged fathers to ferry the family about in - the very characteristic you mention above is supposed to be a good thing.
Volvo didn't make the cars with hooligans in mind.
Old 27-08-2008, 09:48 AM
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Welded diff is fun when wet, but in parkingareas, roundabouts and snow they are utter shit. Had some close calls when just cruising along with 3cm snow. Front just plowed straight on, little tap on the gas, tail stepped out like no tomorrow. It's an on or of thing with the poweroutput I've got
Old 27-08-2008, 09:52 AM
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why would you weld the diff on an every day used car? the tyres will not last long and it's now dangerous, and its a shitty volvo.....
Old 27-08-2008, 09:52 AM
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We dont have snow to worry about here, it very rarely snows at all and when it does the roads get salted so it all melts.
Old 27-08-2008, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
We dont have snow to worry about here, it very rarely snows at all and when it does the roads get salted so it all melts.
Then you really need to take a trip We got some roads with 3meters of snowbanks on eachside of the road, and no cars driving there at all
Old 27-08-2008, 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Kverna
Then you really need to take a trip We got some roads with 3meters of snowbanks on eachside of the road, and no cars driving there at all

Sounds like a lot of fun.
Old 27-08-2008, 10:24 AM
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Stage 1 now complete clarkey:


So its onto stage 2 of the pikey drift prep:
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Originally Posted by dunketh
lol.
They're meant for middle aged fathers to ferry the family about in - the very characteristic you mention above is supposed to be a good thing.
Volvo didn't make the cars with hooligans in mind.
why who is a hooligan???
Old 27-08-2008, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Stage 1 now complete clarkey:


So its onto stage 2 of the pikey drift prep:
lol ive got leaf springs on the back probaly gonna make some blocks up lol
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Thats the spirit, get it decked
Old 27-08-2008, 11:26 AM
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lol give it time
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I offically LOVE this Volvo now, had more fun in this than my Cossie in the space of 5mins. think ill be buying it off him
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Bring it to southend next wednesday for the PF meet clarkey
Old 27-08-2008, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Bring it to southend next wednesday for the PF meet clarkey
i keep trying to get him out, come on clarkey
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He says he will be a long as the clutch and prop hold up
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First one I ever had for pissing about going sideways, the bellhousing itself blew to pieces, apparently quite a common issue on them, as I know a couple of other people who have had the same, lol

So much for volvo build quality, same as with the steering issues, lol
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Originally Posted by Chip
First one I ever had for pissing about going sideways, the bellhousing itself blew to pieces, apparently quite a common issue on them, as I know a couple of other people who have had the same, lol

So much for volvo build quality, same as with the steering issues, lol
should get your mate out in her one chip, great laugh watching her drift
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Originally Posted by rst in progress
should get your mate out in her one chip, great laugh watching her drift
Yeah, she's cool.

She'll be there anyway I expect, she normally is.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Yeah, she's cool.

She'll be there anyway I expect, she normally is.
i thought she was great to watch . steve has my head now, fingers crossed it will be back saturday and running sunday- poss sat night for southend
Old 28-08-2008, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
the bellhousing itself blew to pieces, apparently quite a common issue on them, as I know a couple of other people who have had the same, lol
bellhousing? never heard of one go?

340s props destroy themselves as they shite (and why people should just use a 360), but not bellhousings? cant think why the bellhousing would do?
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Originally Posted by Stavros
bellhousing? never heard of one go?

340s props destroy themselves as they shite (and why people should just use a 360), but not bellhousings? cant think why the bellhousing would do?
Fuck knows why, but was definately the bell housing, bits of it where everywhere.

Didnt bother to look at why, just weighed it in for 50 quid and bought another one for 20 quid
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yea ill be there mite put a clutch in it some time over the week end if any one has got a prop it would be a big help lol and (or) gear box i all ways get a bit worried when pissing about that its going to go bang if i had a spair box ect would build my confidence up lol
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