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Old 03-09-2008, 01:16 PM
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pa sjo/will as your good with the turbo graphs whats it like if i was to use a gt2860rs on a 1600 cvh to make 300bhp at fly with a flowed head etc as i can't find the t34 graph you posted above you got a link to a site with t3 and t34 graphs i've got the graph for the mentioned turbo but want a second opinion as to if turbo would be suitable

sorry gary for hijacking thread

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Originally Posted by Stavros
As in its a fucking lot of money just to get 300bhp.

Smallish turbo, mega low boost, quite serious head, wild cams, high comp, aftermarket managment, custom manifolds, etc etc.

Strange way of going about things to me.
its running 20psi mate ,and had the management from my cvh turbo engine its just been remapped.ps i made both the manifolds.

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Stavros- but using C20LET pistons, uprated valve springs and a T34 to get a consistent/known 300bhp must be wrong
put some graphs up of these 300bhp zetecs on that spec and we will see whats better your way or my way .
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Originally Posted by crazycage
put some graphs up of these 300bhp zetecs on that spec and we will see whats better your way or my way .

edit: reduced pic size!

You'll have to excuse after 5000rpm, there was an issue on the dyno

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo

edit: reduced pic size!

You'll have to excuse after 5000rpm, there was an issue on the dyno
thank you.
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Originally Posted by crazycage
thank you.
... and now your graph to compare?
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pa sjo do you have i link or place to go for those t3/t34 graphs you post up i've got all the gt series graphs but can't find standard turbo specs think that engine needs a little more fuel low 12's is a bit lean is it not

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
... and now your graph to compare?
you will have to make do with this one for now was trying out the .63 housing lol

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Originally Posted by pa_sjo

edit: reduced pic size!

You'll have to excuse after 5000rpm, there was an issue on the dyno

thats fucking awful! only 271 bl/ft at 2500rpm? you should be ashamed of yourself

fuck all good for a front driver though
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Originally Posted by project rs
think that engine needs a little more fuel low 12's is a bit lean is it not
nope, its fine, if a touch rich
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what's an ideal afr then on full boost always thought high 11's i apologise
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high 11's to mid 12's...... no doubt someone will come on here and call me a cunt saying that I know nothing and how it should be 8:1
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Originally Posted by crazycage
you will have to make do with this one for now was trying out the .63 housing lol

lmfao,even trubador did better than that.
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think 400bhp and torque is a good result but i'd have a word with your tuner if thats the print out you've got.
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Originally Posted by Will @ M Developments
About right for the spec, sounds a good start for running in! What's he hoping for out of it?
He would be over the moon if he had a solid 280bhp with similar torque figure, the plan is to have it remapped sometime and max out the t3 turbo.

Originally Posted by Chip
He's on a T3, it would hold onto the power a lot longer on a T34 potentially, also I bet he wasnt on a very modified head or a lairy set of cams like Will is discussing.

The torque he made though, just to put things in perspective, is sufficient for 350bhp @ 8000rpm

So to make what will is saying, you can still allow for the fact the VE drops at revs increases and still consider it reasonable on 9psi
T34 will be the next upgrade i think, which will be when the current t3 shits itself or when he gets bored and wants a bit more.

It certainly wont be revving to 8k thats for sure, its only got standard cams, valves and head, the tweaked bits werent required for his power aim.
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