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Old 03-08-2008 | 04:55 PM
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Has it ever been done? an elise S2 powered by a cosworth engine?

I was unable to find anything on google except this video

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Dont know....

But I know there are quite a few out there with Duratec tubos and Audi 1.8 20v Turbo lumps in (BAM I think)

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Thats a cosworth TUNED mazda engine it says.......

Also.....it is only doing 1m 27secs round donno...... My 205 Mi16 was quicker
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one aroound here with a 1.8 audi turbo engine, has something like 400bhp and is nuts
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cossie engine is a heavy thing and wouldnt not really be great in the back of such a lightweight car.
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
cossie engine is a heavy thing and wouldnt not really be great in the back of such a lightweight car.
ast

:/ that realy makes sense

So how much fast compared to an escort rs cosowrth is an elsie S2?
I mean is it worth it to sell an escort to buy it?
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elise handling is one of the best, so putting more power in one is going to be good.

cosworth engine? not sure, whats the going rate to SC a honda civic type r engine?

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As said I see type r engined ones and audi engined ones every week, cossie YB has been done though.
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tab!!! what happen to you mate, havent seen you on the RSOC forum for months
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how can u say a yb is heavy? compired 2 what a 20v? nither have alloy blocks and both have alloy heads so so how can a yb be that much more heavy?
honda lumps with there alloy blocks then yes the yb could be called heavy!
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How can you say it? because it's true? YB is a frickin' boat-anchor.
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Why would you put a YB in an Elise?
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Originally Posted by _DAN_
Why would you put a YB in an Elise?
to make it go faster.....
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but its not a yb its a cosworth duratec?
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Originally Posted by NoGutsNoGlory
to make it go faster.....

WORST thing you could do to an Elise. Would handle like a bag of shite which is what an elise is all about
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I take it we were all impressed by the Silverstone track insrtuctors in their Elises today then boys? LOL, they were mint mind
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they put cossies in westfields and they manage to handle it fine?
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
they put cossies in westfields and they manage to handle it fine?
do they fit them over the back wheels transversely??

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Theres some out there with Civic Type R K20a engines that are supercharged so around 300bhp and they seem mental.
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YB is heavier than most 4 cylinder iron block and alloy head engines, as its physically quite large, id put money on it being heavier than a audi 20V lump.

Also what gearbox would you use on the YB, bit limited in choice, sure there are some options but a focus ST engine and box would make just SO much more sense if you really wanted to do a ford powered elise for some weird reason.
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Sorry for butting in,

It's my Elise you are talking about. Sorry to dissappoint you but the car only has a mild 310BHP - just dynoed by JKM in Portsmouth. It's the only one in the UK running Garret GT28RS turbo. Most of them run IHI VF34.

There are manydifferent conversions out there, Civic Type R supercharged is also a good one but doesn't have the Torque of the Audi 20V. Duratec, and Hyabusa Turbo have all been done.

I've talked about the Cossie Conversion to my mate -but we came to the conclusion that there was little point - due to Weight, Gearbox compatability and how would you manage the heat in a plastic car ? the Elise is V sensitive to weight, apparently the 20V conversion adds 50kg but the CG is further forward.

There are car's out there pushing 350-370BHP but to my knowledge knowbody has 400BHP appart from a bloke in the USA who has a Honda powered one - but he's American ! so he's bound to have one - Pub talk if you ask me.

I know one bloke who tried to hit 400BHP with a charge cooler and Garret GT30 ? but it didn't make 400BHP it was 375BHP or something like that - it was possibly due to the fuel pump ? not sure what the outcome was.

I do know that when it came onto Boost it lit the rollers up (I was there) and filled the room up with alot of heat - I'm not sure how he managed the heat which as you know is a BHP killer.

Anyway, I built mine myself and it runs 310BHP (Dyno Dynamics rollers) 660cc injectors, GT28RS and 1.2Bar Boost.

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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
Sorry for butting in,

It's my Elise you are talking about. Sorry to dissappoint you but the car only has a mild 310BHP - just dynoed by JKM in Portsmouth. It's the only one in the UK running Garret GT28RS turbo. Most of them run IHI VF34.

There are manydifferent conversions out there, Civic Type R supercharged is also a good one but doesn't have the Torque of the Audi 20V. Duratec, and Hyabusa Turbo have all been done.

I've talked about the Cossie Conversion to my mate -but we came to the conclusion that there was little point - due to Weight, Gearbox compatability and how would you manage the heat in a plastic car ? the Elise is V sensitive to weight, apparently the 20V conversion adds 50kg but the CG is further forward.

There are car's out there pushing 350-370BHP but to my knowledge knowbody has 400BHP appart from a bloke in the USA who has a Honda powered one - but he's American ! so he's bound to have one - Pub talk if you ask me.

I know one bloke who tried to hit 400BHP with a charge cooler and Garret GT30 ? but it didn't make 400BHP it was 375BHP or something like that - it was possibly due to the fuel pump ? not sure what the outcome was.

I do know that when it came onto Boost it lit the rollers up (I was there) and filled the room up with alot of heat - I'm not sure how he managed the heat which as you know is a BHP killer.

Anyway, I built mine myself and it runs 310BHP (Dyno Dynamics rollers) 660cc injectors, GT28RS and 1.2Bar Boost.

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hi mate. Any pics of the car? I love elises, especially funky ones.

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Go Here - let me know what you think, Si B has loads of phots ! He's into that sorta thing.


https://passionford.com/forum/general-car-related-discussion/192587-elise-at-castle-combe-last-weekend.html

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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
Go Here - let me know what you think, Si B has loads of phots ! He's into that sorta thing.


https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192587

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That is just automotive PORN mate. I want one. Someone lend me loads of dosh.
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I forgot to mention - the only reason I went Garret GT was cos of you Cossie boys and to do something a little different.

It's not the quickest thing in the World - but it F ing Quick, Pitty I can't drive it any sense though.
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If somebody offered my Ł18K It would be hard to say no !
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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
If somebody offered my Ł18K It would be hard to say no !
Hmmmmmm... do you do finance
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If you are ever down this way I will take you for a spin.

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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
If you are ever down this way I will take you for a spin.

Andy
Thanks for that mate. If I'm ever wherever you are at a track day I'll do just that!!
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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
Go Here - let me know what you think, Si B has loads of phots ! He's into that sorta thing.


https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192587

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Some pics of the best way to power up an Elise:






Good to read that one again Andy, and thanks for the passenger ride again this evening

Goes SO much better now it's had a new tweak / massive MAP change by the bloke at JKM. http://www.jkm.org.uk/

The way the speed piles on and the smile on my face says it all really. Reminds me of how my old Saph went for the short time it ran at 470bhp, yet yours is "only" 300 odd! Power to weight ratio must be immense!

Those extra revs really make it pull well at the top end which is how I like my cars to drive.



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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
Go Here - let me know what you think, Si B has loads of phots ! He's into that sorta thing.


https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192587

Andy
OMG speech less.

Realy thinking about getting an elise ..... my fear is that it would feel slower than an escos
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I'm not sure it will feel slower - your ass is 110mm off the floor !! anyway if you are in doubt put another 100BHP into it..............there is some nutter in Oz claiming 500 + BHP.

I will try to get the link !

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Check this Bad Boy out

http://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?...e=1#pid2358975

and This

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...&q=lotus+elise

Do you still think it won't feel as fast ?

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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
Check this Bad Boy out

http://arc.seloc.org/viewthread.php?...e=1#pid2358975

and This

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...&q=lotus+elise

Do you still think it won't feel as fast ?

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Thats looks fats, but lets face it if you compare the 2 cars with factroy spec there will be a clear winner.
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Originally Posted by NoGutsNoGlory
OMG speech less.

Realy thinking about getting an elise ..... my fear is that it would feel slower than an escos
A standard one maybe, although driven right I'm sure a 118bhp Elise could be made to feel fast as fook!

Seriously, Andy's yellow Elise at 310 bhp deffo felt to me as quick as my old 1450kg Sierra Saph Cossie did at 467bhp. Possibly similar power to weight ratios at that power level, but as Andy points out, you're sat on the ground, with the engine just behind your head. Totally different kettle of fish.

It DEFFO feels faster than 99% of cars I've been in.

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Your elise is NOT the only one running a GT28RS turbo, sorry, there are at least TWO others, though one is swapping for a KKK soon as a experiment, both are running more power as well.
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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus

There are car's out there pushing 350-370BHP but to my knowledge knowbody has 400BHP appart from a bloke in the USA who has a Honda powered one - but he's American ! so he's bound to have one - Pub talk if you ask me.

OH YES THERE IS!

and he is a member of PassionFord!

In fact... Pretty sure Waynes must be over 400bhp as well.

So there are TWO 400bhp + Audi Turbo Lotus's on here.

an S1 Exige and an S1 Elise with Exige clams

I will post some pics later.

Seans runs a GT30 with an external wastgate on a inconel tubular manifoild by the way.

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Originally Posted by Loopee Lotus
Go Here - let me know what you think, Si B has loads of phots ! He's into that sorta thing.


https://passionford.com/forum/showthread.php?t=192587

Andy
Loopee, thats a lovely conversion. You say you have done it all yourself and very good job of it you have made too.

I bet it makes a great car. I expect 300 bhp is perfect for a light weight elise thats still drivable.

Hats off to you.
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Originally Posted by tabetha
Your elise is NOT the only one running a GT28RS turbo, sorry, there are at least TWO others, though one is swapping for a KKK soon as a experiment, both are running more power as well.
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OK sorry - I was deffo the first though - and the engine bay won't look the same as mine that's for sure.

Anyway I thought this was a Professional chat forum not a P*ssing Competition.


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