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Old 22-07-2008, 09:18 PM
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Default The old cossie vs bike debate

Was out in the car tonight with a friend of mine with an R1.

Who can guess the outcome?
Old 22-07-2008, 09:19 PM
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rhetorical question
Old 22-07-2008, 09:21 PM
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my r1 is faster lol
Old 22-07-2008, 09:21 PM
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You got your ass handed to you,if not ...did the Yam have an engine?
Old 22-07-2008, 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
rhetorical question

Thats a question where I give the answer with the question?
Old 22-07-2008, 09:22 PM
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Well if you were out in the car WITH him, you were both going the same speed
Old 22-07-2008, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Paul_RS
Well if you were out in the car WITH him, you were both going the same speed

Sorry I was in the car with another friend and my mate was on his R1.

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Old 22-07-2008, 09:24 PM
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Here we go again lol ....
Old 22-07-2008, 09:24 PM
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standing start to 100 u win no probs
Old 22-07-2008, 09:24 PM
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bike won, if not then its poorly Only place you could have kept with it would have been on a corner as a car can carry more corner speed but lose out to exit speed etc.
Old 22-07-2008, 09:25 PM
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I would imagine in a straight line you won, round the bends he won.
Old 22-07-2008, 09:25 PM
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Euan....the winner imo.
Old 22-07-2008, 09:26 PM
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if you were moving above 40mph i dont see why you couldnt pull away.
Old 22-07-2008, 09:26 PM
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What gear/speed ? i take it was a stright road Euan mate?

btw i vote you won
Old 22-07-2008, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Sorry I was in the car with another friend and my mate was on his R1.
Cossie FTW
Old 22-07-2008, 09:26 PM
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Have any of you ever ridden an R1 or driven a 500 bhp cossie?

Why would the bike win on the bends?

How could I possibly win 0-100?
Old 22-07-2008, 09:27 PM
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u have to ride a bike very well to do a good 0-100 so yes you can win
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Have any of you ever ridden an R1 or driven a 500 bhp cossie?

Why would the bike win on the bends?

How could I possibly win 0-100?
yes and yes and i didnt say you'd loose on the bend's either
Old 22-07-2008, 09:28 PM
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in your shonkey cossie the bike won
Old 22-07-2008, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Have any of you ever ridden an R1 or driven a 500 bhp cossie?

Why would the bike win on the bends?

How could I possibly win 0-100?
no,yes,it wouldnt and if he fucked the start right up
Old 22-07-2008, 09:31 PM
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We didnt do any standing starts but going from rolling speed (3rd onwardsfor me) to 130 ish the R1 was way faster.

Once up and onto the motor way and above 140 my car was faster up to 172 onthe GPS where we slowed down.

We went for it tons of time from 60 ish and the turn of speed from the R1 was amazing but the higher the speeds the better the cossie went.

I was quite chuffed to say i can "do" and R1 above 140!
Old 22-07-2008, 09:33 PM
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r1 tuned?
Old 22-07-2008, 09:33 PM
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The bike was ridden flat out by an experinced rider(owned fast bikes for 10 years+) and he was flat out on the thing! It was snaking and lifting thru 2nd and 3rd gears!
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Originally Posted by dovboy
r1 tuned?

Nope standard!
Old 22-07-2008, 09:33 PM
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thats because power to weight is more important for low down acceleration and all out power is more important for high speed stuff

so, absolutely no surprises there then
Old 22-07-2008, 09:33 PM
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what turbo have you got ?
Old 22-07-2008, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
thats because power to weight is more important for low down acceleration and all out power is more important for high speed stuff

so, absolutely no surprises there then
I was just waiting for all the guys who have cuffed R1's in their stage 3 cossies Jim

Acceleration the R1 is soooooooooooo fast!
Old 22-07-2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon1
what turbo have you got ?
T4
Old 22-07-2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
We didnt do any standing starts but going from rolling speed (3rd onwardsfor me) to 130 ish the R1 was way faster.

Once up and onto the motor way and above 140 my car was faster up to 172 onthe GPS where we slowed down.

We went for it tons of time from 60 ish and the turn of speed from the R1 was amazing but the higher the speeds the better the cossie went.

I was quite chuffed to say i can "do" and R1 above 140!
tbh that almost makes a change in the cossie world...some one who doesnt talk bollocks! Normaly you hear so much crap about how much faster their car is to a bike they supposidly raced, but in reality there's normaly only a few areas the bike is gonna be lagging and imo thats top end on most of the average superbike's and corner speed on most of the average fast riders, when compared to a car thats had a mortgage thrown at it that is

Ive owned my old gixxer now for 11yrs...altho its an antique compared to new bikes, its not standard and not slow. Im reconned to be a fast rider by my mates who come out with me (them on these ere new fangled things lol)...but there's no way I could keep up with me in my car when im on my bike going thru a long string of corners, if there were two of me that is (ones enuff for most )

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Originally Posted by Gordon1
what turbo have you got ?

Shonky old T4 or something
Old 22-07-2008, 09:36 PM
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we mapped a r34 and he went with an r1 from 60 -160 and he pulled on him a good bit
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Originally Posted by miller3
Shonky old T4 or something

lol
Old 22-07-2008, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gordon1
we mapped a r34 and he went with an r1 from 60 -160 and he pulled on him a good bit

Must be an fast skyline or a slow R1.

In all honesty most bike I race aint 100% commited but I know the R1 I raced was 110% commited!
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ive raced a high power saff on my r1 and i kicked his arse upto 140 but when we had to slow down to about 110 then nail it again i pulled a car lenth on him upto 160ish then he started to pull me back in........and yes i was flat out on the limiter in ever gear...
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Originally Posted by lawnsy
ive raced a high power saff on my r1 and i kicked his arse upto 140 but when we had to slow down to about 110 then nail it again i pulled a car lenth on him upto 160ish then he started to pull me back in........and yes i was flat out on the limiter in ever gear...

Sounds about right to me
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
Must be an fast skyline or a slow R1.

In all honesty most bike I race aint 100% commited but I know the R1 I raced was 110% commited!
it was not slow lol
Old 22-07-2008, 09:41 PM
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much wheelspin in the cos? were you coming of a sweeping bend against it?

i'm not saying i have cuffed them but it was a little closer than you are saying,i would say 60-180 odd(speedo) in my car and in kevs 3door there wasnt anything in it and the were absolutely side by side flat out.
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Originally Posted by dovboy
much wheelspin in the cos? were you coming of a sweeping bend against it?

i'm not saying i have cuffed them but it was a little closer than you are saying,i would say 60-180 odd in my car and in kevs 3door there wasnt anything in it and the were absolutely side by side flat out.

Not really anywheels spin....the R1 was WAY quicker than my car until the speed started to build.
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Ian must be nuts! thats all I can say!


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