dont mind sending mine to them just wondered who done them and what sort of dollar?

 

bug wing

 

new type of sump lol

 

Roosie easy to change the Titttttttttle just click next to the heading when in the main menu.

Rainbird does big wings and so does Reyland.

 

Failing that Marco does BIG wing sumps too I think.

 

i believe pete off here, ashfield motorsports does these!! not 100% sure tho!

 

NMS do some very nice ones.

 

Maybe he doesn't know what the Tittle is?

 

Garage19 did mine, cant remember exact price but was under 100 quid.

 

I had an issue with oil starvation at Snetterton this weekend under heavy braking and was thinking about a bigger sump. Does anybody know a good source for a big sump with baffles, or do the ones listed above come with internal modifications to stop oil surge already?

Cheers,


Charlie

 

2wd or 4x4?

 

thats wat killed my last engine oil starvation because i never had a big winged baffled sump on

 

SCS in peterborough make the big wing sumps give them a call 01733 576614

 

hi mate

this is one of the best out there



















cheers marco

 

who done that

 

my mate

they are the bollox mate gated/baffeld +they hold 7 litres of oil

 

whats the price of these mate and does he do 4wd ones

 

scs sumps are very very good quality and do 2wd and 4x4

 

no mate he wont do them for the 4wd

 

these are the same that rsjp uses

 

...how much roughly then chap?

 

Think they're around 300. Looks like the most professional solution. Is there anyone that adds or has added baffles to a 2WD sump? Not sure about the need for extra capacity but baffles are a must.

Cheers,


Charlie

 

That looks the nuts marco

 

They do look nice but there are a couple of issues with that sump that have been bugging me...

1) The right hand wing where it curves up, there is no point. It wwill not gain you any capacity as it will not fill up, you will just trap air.

2) This is only a minor one. Why go to the trouble of plating it and then having to pass that extra cost onto the customer when it is pointless. Its emersed in oil. Its never going to rust!

Other than that, nicely made.

 

they are 300 and you supply sump and oil pick up pipe of your choice either 4wd or 2wd what ever oil pump you want to use

marco

 

the reason why that is like that so it has no issues with the starter motor

if you mean the side that has a bit of a dish

at the end of the day this thing works and works well and it does controll the oil ..... you all ways have the same amount of oil in the sump at any one time no matter what the car is doing

accel/brake/cornering/left/ right .....the gates open and close accordingly

these are 100 times better than just wings welded on the side of the sump and holes drilled in the side

how do they controll oil speed and stop the oil rushing to the front of the engine when under heavy braking and cornering hard from left to right ?

this is a fully controlled sump that does every thing needed for track use ?

yes this sump is an over kill for just normal road use i will agree with that

the reason why it's coated just for finsih really not to gain extra money its 300 thats with or with finsh ......lol...

marco

 

This design was taken from an Andy Rouse sump and I think he knew abit about this . Eh Marco

And there is a -8 fitting in the end which breathes upto the breather so it wouldn't create an air pocket.

 

exactly that !

 

The -8 fitting is too low. Unless you lifted the car up 4 ft when you filled it up to 45 degrees you will just end up with trapped air there.

 

at the end of the day ,they do exactly what they were made for

mine has -10 fitting and is not 45 degree

how can this casue an air pocket for a start most decent cossys with have a proper breathing system that breats from both sides of the block

and these have a baffle to stop oil from going up to the retern


so what sump have you got on your car ? have you got dry sump?

dry sump wins hands down , but this type of sump in next best to dry sump regaurdles what you think


marco

 

Marco, the breathing system has nothing to do with it.

45 deg is not the angle of the breather. It was a joke about how you would have to put the car to fill the sump up.

Look up "diving bell" on wikipedia and the principal behind the trapped air will be explained.

 

hi mate

to be honest if it does then i'm not too botherd , i know this sump works well regaurdless of that , all i know i have never blown an engine with this sump on ,

i have blown engines without a big wing sump of some kind

so it good enough for me


what other sump is out which is as good as this one ?

marco

 

I'm not saying it won't work, just that the curved up bit is pointless.

I'm sure there are other big wing and baffled sumps out there on the market that work just as well.

 

well get one of thoses then ...........lol....

 

garage19 sounds 2me like u should design a make a better one and sell them for less than 300 quid and u would be on 2 a winner!

 

What like half that price... that would be good

 

yep go ahead and make one

 

Just like the plenums

 

marco gives you wings

 

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