OrionRST200bhp

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hi guys, been to alan jefferys at plymouth today, and he says that i need an electronic boost controller and basically get rid of the amal valve,so that he can set up the car properly, what do you guys have? and what do you recommended, also what price.

foreigneRS

why? what are trying to achieve that an amal valve cannot?

pete mcrash

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think u'll need to give people ur spec..............it would help................as for a controller...........i use the amal valve at over 400bhp..........

OrionRST200bhp

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spec.... t34 with 63 housing, 3 bar map sensor, siemens black injectors, msd closed loop chip, stainless exhaust, and the rest K&n air filter etc...

JTECH James

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he ALWAYS trys to sell you stuff you dont need.

amal valves work perfectly well

djcossie

get a air injection for boost its the best

OrionRST200bhp

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i thought i'd ask on here as he reckons i need to spend £300 on a turbo smart boost controller. he did say that i needed an rs 500 cooler but i have one on order.

JTECH James

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why is it best?

when you would need live mapping to correctly run air injectors.....

amal valves are fine....its not like you need to map out surge with a t34...

OrionRST200bhp

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i had some bloke down there basically telling me to go jap as the cossie managment isnt any good compared to the japs.

JTECH James

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full of shite, dont belive a word.

its a case of...he cant use the cossie ecus, so that makes them crap

he always trys to make me change ecus aswell, i just tell him to piss off, asif i would ever let them map my car

djcossie

its the best way
live mapping is the best way
and all the best things work together

OrionRST200bhp

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is there anyone else i can take my car to instead of alan jeffery around devon or cornwall without travelling all the way up to blackpool? also how much are the air injectors and are they easy to fit??

djcossie

cossie managment this the best in the right hands so that bloke is not good
so dont spend any money with him

JTECH James

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ii disagree.

its betrer if you need it to be mapped bleed on.....to map surge etc....

but on a t34 you could weld the wastegate shut and not have surge....

air injection also has one really bad point....

if your injector fails or gets blocked...you make all the boost your turbo can make,potentially killing your engine..



i run air injection because i need it, not because its best....

JTECH James

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whats actually the boost problem he needs to "sort" as he says?

tabetha

I agree with Jtech, saty away from air correctors as failure melts engines, the amal valve is perfectly adequate, the std ecu is limited in boost control ,as it is on/off in action, and not load AND throttle angle determined, if you want the best setup for the road, I would get it rolling road mapped, no one including stu can control all the conditions that you can on a rolling road, ie hold rpm/power/speed function to check load sites.
By the time you add on CL, coilpack, AL, ecu,chip, mapping etc you can buy a aftermarlet ecu/loom and mapping, and have many more fucntions, even a triple map costs only £275 where I go.
tabetha

foreigneRS

not true - the PWM output from the ECU is variable depending on ACT etc

OrionRST200bhp

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he reckons that the amal valve makes the boost drop off to much thats why he said get a boost controller as that wont happen. surely when i get my rs500 cooler and put that on it can be tuned to what its suppose to run, without getting air injectors and boost controllers, ive got all this stage 3 stuff on my car and he has basically got my car running less power than a stage one setup. its 250bhp............ crapppppppppppppppp is the word, thinking about it, ive been butt fooked big time.

OrionRST200bhp

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another thing he said that my car is reving 500rpm more than what my clocks are telling me, how do i sort that, or is that bulls##t aswell???

pa_sjo

It sounds like the guy doesn't know what he's doing. Amal valves do have their limitations (eg, I wouldn't want to run one at 2 bar), but they and the boost control strategy in the ecu is a 'boost controller'. The chip will be mapped for boost control I would have thought!

Speak to the calibrator (MSD), not some monkey.

cossie daz

IMO i would travel and get it tuned

RSricRS

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Heres the best thing you can do.... take it to stu at blackpool due to by the time hes fucked you about telling you this and that which is complete bullshit and a waste of money you may aswell spend that money by droping it off with stu for the day whilst you go for a nice walk down the beach with an icecream hahahaha lol SORTED.

foreigneRS

he may be correct in a way - but you have the possibility of using different sized jets in the SEM valve and differently sprung actuators to control the boost how you want it without having to spend on a boost controller. although to be fair to him, a boost controller is possibly easier and gives better control in the long run.

Jim Galbally

ah, my mate alan. he once signed up her to try and make me sound stupid after he LOST my rather rare peice of turbotechnics equipment and didn't care

basically, whilst what youve told s not FACT, hes advising you to change the spec of your car so that HE kws what to do with it. there are many competent tuners in the UK who can deal with the standard cosse stuff just fine, so you do not NEED to change anytihng (otehr than your tuner )

Jim Galbally

re: blackpool, i recently took a visit to MSD for a fault that 3-4 other place couldnt diagnise...

stu charged me pennies and change my SPARK PLUGS, problem solved

cost me more in fuel than the invoice.

do it once, do it right

oh, and its not just MSD, there are loads of places that know what theyre doing

JTECH James

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i wouldnt say stay away from air injectors, they are very good, but imo on a t34 car wouldnt give much benifit...

my t34 car peaked 32psi and held 28psi, what more do you need? i could have welded the wastegate shut and not made more power ....all with a correctly jetted amal valve.....


a friend of mine took his cossie to alan jeffery, and he was unable to get the boost up over 20psi.....it came to me, and i jetted the amal, something really simple, and it made 30psi easily.........he really should know how to do this, rather than sell boost controllers you dont need....

costina

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Don't you just hate it when people talk bollox

Paul

Bloomers

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Hmmm, so £200 on an Apexi AVC-R could be better spent?

Stavros

The man is a fucking retard.

If theres nothing else wrong, even a 5quid bleed valve would happily control the boost you have on a stg3 setup.

jld0211

i was told the same at totd because i peak at 18 psi but drop down to 13 he said a boost controller would hold the boost much better im running gotech from which chris todd says is poor has neone else had problems with gotech

Stavros

all tuners slag off anything they dont sell or dont understand.

thats why i loath going to any tuners, they even do it with simple things like exhausts and filters to put their own brand on it, never mind more expensive stuff.

utter cunts.

and to make it worse the customers still suck em off.

and to make it even worse they go round the net and mates and shit and tell everyone else this bullshit info.

and to make it worse again they tell magazines in tuning guides and then the whole world starts hearing the same bullshit.

boils my piss.

Gordon1

And thats the end of that lol

gil

i have e boost controller....fucking brilliant... i can programme diffrent boost at diffrnt rpm, means i dont have to have it at full chat all the time, helps when wet....get 6 diffrent boost settings as well......

big_wig_074

my bleed valve is infinitely adjustable,no just 6 settings.costs next to bugger all too!fucking brilliant.

i ran a jetted amal valve at over 400bhp on my old cossie engine too.worked very well.

gil

wansnt trying too convince you,, just give the guy an insight into mine....like he asked. happy with mine, glad your happy wiyh yours

SS1

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HKS EVC V Boost control system on the dash. 3 levels of boost

(14/24/34), each setting fully adjustable



and get the car live mapped



http://www.motorsport-developments.co.uk/

pete mcrash

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or just buy it that way.............