having a issue with my breather system on my 3 door ???? help needed (pic added)
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as title my 3 door is fitted with a group a breather system but i think its giving me to much back pressure and im losing pressure up in my head ???
i have my breather pot by my battery tray with one hose going to block under inlet one hose going round to breather tank on inner wing then i have a hose going from the bottom of the breather tank by battery tray into my sump plug hole ??? which is where im confused as although its a 3 door its got a 200 block so i am thinking this should not be there as it should be round on the drivers side of the block ??? am i right in thinking this as i have never seen this set up before and can not understand why it is like this ??? the tank on the inner wing has the vent to atmosphere on the back corner and also the drainage tap underneath can anyone comment on this setup being either right or rong ??? cheers in advance peeps.![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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i have my breather pot by my battery tray with one hose going to block under inlet one hose going round to breather tank on inner wing then i have a hose going from the bottom of the breather tank by battery tray into my sump plug hole ??? which is where im confused as although its a 3 door its got a 200 block so i am thinking this should not be there as it should be round on the drivers side of the block ??? am i right in thinking this as i have never seen this set up before and can not understand why it is like this ??? the tank on the inner wing has the vent to atmosphere on the back corner and also the drainage tap underneath can anyone comment on this setup being either right or rong ??? cheers in advance peeps.
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well the breather port on the back of the head/rocker cover is blocked off the breather port on the drivers side of the 200 block is still blocked off so the hose that would normaly go into that port is now going into where my sump plug goes ??? if that makes sense lol .
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so you are saying the return from the breather near the battery tray is right being plumbed in to the sump plug hole ??? not the normal location for the breather return on the 200 block on the drivers side of the engine ????
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the normal location isnt to good as a return, because its above oil level....when your on boost this acts as a breather, not a return....returning below oil level means it returns all the time.
i have a return below oil level, and i breathe from both block ports...i dont use the rocker cover port.
i have a return below oil level, and i breathe from both block ports...i dont use the rocker cover port.
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the normal location is NOT the drivers side...........that is to vent crank case pressure as well. This is on 205 as well as 200 blocks by the way.
oil should be returned at below oil level and requires the sump to be modded OR as in your case if you dont want to mod the sump for this you can use the sump plug.
I believe GGR did your breather system and specify how many sides of the block to breath from depending on your stage of tune.
Also the returning oil below oil level in the sump is dependent on who you speak to
oil should be returned at below oil level and requires the sump to be modded OR as in your case if you dont want to mod the sump for this you can use the sump plug.
I believe GGR did your breather system and specify how many sides of the block to breath from depending on your stage of tune.
Also the returning oil below oil level in the sump is dependent on who you speak to
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infact here is the link to the GGR site and info on their systems that breath from one side (2port) and both sides (3port) it also mentions connecting to the sump drain.
http://www.grahamgoode.com/breath.htm
http://www.grahamgoode.com/breath.htm
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infact here is the link to the GGR site and info on their systems that breath from one side (2port) and both sides (3port) it also mentions connecting to the sump drain.
http://www.grahamgoode.com/breath.htm
http://www.grahamgoode.com/breath.htm
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cheers guys will check out the site now. my only problem with this setup is i just cant understand the theory behind returning crankcase pressure (not oil) to below oil level as there is always oil in the sump and with the hose being in the sumpplug location oil will (in theory be trying to get out while i have crank case pressure trying to go in if that makes sense lol im a ford tech and work along side to masters and both cant understand the reasoning behind it above oil level yes but below it ??? cheers anyway guys for your help ![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
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well the breather port on the back of the head/rocker cover is blocked off the breather port on the drivers side of the 200 block is still blocked off so the hose that would normaly go into that port is now going into where my sump plug goes ??? if that makes sense lol .
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well my problem is i have rebuilt the engine and have had the turbo rebuilt but im still getting puffs of smoke when cold on idle and when hot on idle but not under load or after boost etc so im trying to source possible backpressure or lack of oil to the head as im also getting a very slight cam rattle from what seems to be the rear of the head but only very slight the second you toch the pedal and i do mean touch it clears and if driving theres nothing.i have checked everything you can think of but the only thing that remains the same and untouched is the breather system and its the first time i have come across the setup hence trying to find out if its ok ??? the engines only running stage 3 it has good oil pressure etc etc but im still experiencing these problems they are fairly minor but i am a bit of a fussy c**t lol and likes things to be perfect lol
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You need to breath from more than just one port in the block imo. also the pipe going from the seperater to the catch tank i think will be acting like a U bend in a toilet and not really allowing any air to pass through.
I also think you should breath from the rocker cover too.
I also think you should breath from the rocker cover too.
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