...how bad could your life get to do it?...Yes i do know someone that did and was atotal shock as on face value he was a happy fooker....Tell me what could drive you to concede defeat?

Me?......i think being told i had cancer..i think i'd just give up,i dont think i'd try fight it just to grab a few extra days from positive mental attitude.

 

stuck in a room with u...........then probably YES.................

 

cant say id ever think my life was so bad that id have to end it, when youve got children i dont comprehend how you could put them through it, although saying that a lad we knew commited suicide because he couldnt see his kids

 

For me it would be another one of your senseless threads lol

I dont think anyone could honestly answer that without actually being in that state of mind , and if they were their not likely to be reading this thread now are they ?

 

Deano..i am sure many folk could say what could possibly trigger this..i have!!!!!...and yes i am relatively normal ..not enuff honesty out there IMO

 

pmsl

 

i couldnt possibly ever think this.....

life will always pull us through shit, but we only get one chance at it, i wanna live forever no matter what life puts me through......

 

no i couldnt put my little girl through it knowing that her mum done that

 

considering theres an R.I.P thread been stickied for a guy who just commited suicide. dont think this is really what some people will want to read or see on here...

i couldent do it myself, no matter what i was going through

 

Just have to think what i/anyone commiting suicide would put their family through, parents, siblings, partners, kids etc... its a very selfish act, but then again, if things are so bad someone is in a frame of mind in which they could go through with it then i guess its not an issue.

Id say its a mental illness, unfortunately either un-detected or covered over by other issues in the persons life.

Terrible thing for any friend or family to have to go through.

 

Right so what your saying is , if you were told you had cancer you`d walk straight out the office and top yourself would you ?

 

Great reply...i wish i had your drive mate....but i would wager you feel great and never experienced major upset illness/stress/etc well not for long anyway.

 

cancer is not always terminal

and even if you had terminal cancer, i'm not sure that anyone that loves you (if there is anyone apart from your dogs) would prefer you to take your own life to seeing you fade away from the disease. tough one for them, either way

 

Never, theres other ways of sorting problems out.

It's a very selfish thing to do, just because someone wants the easy way out, leaves many others in agony. When my friend killed herself last year it was totally unexpected, but most of them are, which hits you even more like a tonne of bricks.

Horrible way to die.

 

Yes....

 

A women could drive me to defeat, when she really thinks she is driving me to the shops.

Benni.

 

Nick i watched my other halfs dad die from lung cancer he went from a normal person to a skeleton in 6 weeks...to think of looking like he did would not be nice for me..i'd rather die looking like i do (ugly) than go out from letting a disease killing me and making me look that way..this is MY OPINION.

 

no major illness's, suffered abit of mental and physical child abuse when i was younger, although i have had a major breakdown with relationship with my ex (her f**king about) resulting in a four year battle to see my son which is still unresolved (im at soliciters again in morning). I have also have had a few long term (2-4 year) relationships breakdown.

Thing is i realise that life is what you make of it, i have a few regrets in life but i always pick myself up again. My mates say i can fall in a bag of shit and come back smelling of roses....

the only thing thats getting me down at the min is my son not being able to see him and im a lil overweight, which im trying to sort out.....

But im still smiling..... Lifes too short to be miserable...

 

we are all entitled to it fellah....


understand where your coming from though.......

 

No i wouldn't, my aunty did it a few years ago and it really wrecked the family.. at the time i was the first to say she was selfish, as i didnt have a clue how she felt.
Few months on i had a nervous breakdown, and could actually kind of see why she did what she did.. not that i would ever of done it myself.. does that make sense?

 

Im sure suicide is the biggest killer of men under the age of 25, read it somewhere a while ago.

 

Its a cowards way imo, and i have zero sympathy for them. my mother inlaw has cancer and probably wont see the next few weeks out, i no my missus and the rest of her family would give every penny the world has just to have her here for ten more minutes, yet these people throw there lives away as if its nothing. one life no extra time, this is for real its not a fucking game

 

Fair play to you dude, good luck with the solicitors

 

All about the person and the state of mind. The people I know who have, have been outwardly happy people.

But, i dare say that deep down they have a low selfasteem, and must view it as easier for it to just be over, than struggle on.

One chap I know, decent looking bloke, lots of friends, family was good, then hung himself after his misses started shagging round. Supose at that point none of the above mattered in comparison to the feeling of being cheated on and couldn't go on.

Personally I couldn't do it.

 

Who know's what goes through someones mind before they feel there only option is to end there problem's, fear's, insecurities or what ever there problem's in life by taking what some people might call the easy way out. My friend chris was a relatively happy person comfortable in life a wife and two children to enjoy. You're first instinct is sadness by the tragedy but then guilt takes over, could i have done anything to prevent this afterall he was my friend, you know? Then there's the anger of realising that he has left two doting children behind who can do nothing but ask the question why? But when all is said and done, and this is my personal experience, all i feel is the sadness for a close friend who for whatever reason he saw necessary chose to end his life because he saw no other way out. What drives people to it, desperation, fear, self control who know's. All i know is i miss my friend and whatever the reason he is no longer with us.

 

thanx....

 

Totally pointless topic sadly as nobody replying can accurately answer unless they are in the very dark world that is clinical depression.

There are a couple of other states of mind that can trigger your mind to "allow" suicide, but by far the most common is the mind state known as clinical depression, a state that im sure 90% of so called "Off work with depression" sufferers have never even been CLOSE too IMO.

The rest of us, whilst reading this in a helthy state of mind will simply reply:
No way.
Cowards way out.
Selfish bastards.

Etc, as your current normal human mind state currently will not allow self destruction. You are still programmed first and foremost with fight or flight, as are most animals naturally.
people who take their own lives are FAR from the state of mind the majority of members reading ths topic are in, and until you have been there, you will simply never understand their reasoning.

 

Perfectly summed up, depression can break even a very strong person into a mess within a short space of time.

 

No, not in a million years, I've lost two friends to suicide and I know what it does to people, including myself. Lost a friend to his selfish wife, so he took his life.

Its shit, And I'm not that much of a cunt to think that much of myself, I'd rather drive to a coast, sit by myself and do fuck all but think rather than kill ones self.

 

It's like that alot, happened to someone i know too..

It's like lots of comedians suffer / have suffered from depression - not many people notice how they are actually feeling..

I'm not sure what would push me to actually kill myself.. but that's possibly because I'm only quite young and have been really lucky through life so far to not know what it's like to have nothing.

I think that pretty much makes sense!

 

If I was told I had cancer, and had like a few months left living in good health, but could get the double if I was treated with drugs I would say; Fuck it, let some other have my money's worth of medicine. I'm not that fond of life per date, so I thing I would have burned out my tires, got together with my bestfriends and just enjoyed life to the max while I could.

But the gun-to-head/leap-from-bridge isn't for me, could seem like the easyest choice at the moment, but you won't believe how many people who will grief over your death.

On the other hand, how cool(wrong word) would it be to see how many people you would get in your furneal ?

 

I agree totally with Stu, mental health issues are the only way I could ever see for it, and thankfully ive been lucky in that respect so far.

Dont know firsthand what its like to be depressed and dont ever want to frankly, life's for living, and its NOT a rehearsal, cliche's of course, but that doesnt stop them being true!

 

That's what i was trying to get across, but as you know i'm shite with words

 

i think this thread was posted at the wrong time look at the stickies i couldnt do it myself but i have no problems really considering what some people go through and some times the reason behind it is worse than you think

 

top reply stu

 

Anyone that thinks suicide is a cowards way out should try it, I know I couldn't no matter what. There's many things in life that can make people feel like it is the only way out, only a very few take it. Understanding those conditions is like trying to cure cancer, impossible. To the vast majority preserving life is what keeps us here and makes death feel like the worst option possible.

 

phil, i've lost both of my parents in the same way and i can't explain how terrible it was but i'd still rather it that way

out of interest, how do you think you would do it?

 

i think Stu sumed it up really.

 

NEVER!! One of my Grandad's took his own life when I was four after having a car accident with a bus and being uninsured the bus company were taking legal action. He didn't see a way out and rather than asking my parents for the money (£3k) IIRC he killed himself.

 

i used to always say "cowards way out" etc etc but when you get pushed and pushed over a period of time, you cant see a way out, the thought of ending it does tend to pop into the mind...

then when the depresssion is gone you think "what a twat i cant beleive i considered that, i'm young, got a great life, all to live for etc" but deep down you know that the next time you hit rock bottom you might not come out of the other end...