The Abortion Debate...
23-05-2008, 10:10 PM
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23-05-2008, 10:17 PM
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its maltese..... must admit im baised as i know just how religious them nutters are in malta
the missus grand parents wont let us sleep on the same floor let alone the same bed due to us not being married,,,,, theres more pictures if jesus in there house than there is of family,,,,,,,,,,, and they called the missus old man joseph !!!
its culture that you need to respect,,,, religion is another tbh as its education
ironic that i got expelled from religious studies at school for a comment i said about it,,,,, and the missus family are bigger nut jobs !
oh and talk about hypocritical,,,,, they dont seem to resent our child who was born out of wedlock !!!
23-05-2008, 10:33 PM
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mate you need TWO LOVING parents to have a fair chance at life just like you need 2 arms or need your eye sight
i understand why YOU feel that strong as my missus is maltese remember though dont forget that children out of marrige aint common where you and and MOST women are married at 25,,,, majority are at 20 i belive
having kids is easy, bringing them up so they make a better life that YOU have is the hard part,,,,, i struggle to make sure my little one does ok and all i really do is earn the money, my missus is the one who does the day to day stuff EVERY DAY !!!
religion is the FIRST route of evil though im afraid, people have used it toforce there OWN personal opinions on people
mormons are the BEST example of religion gone bad !!,, where the elder women are used to train the you men what to do sexually as they cant have sex before marrige..... and the top dog can take a fancy to who ever he wants and borrow your wife ect ect ect
the more i learn about religion the more im swayed to belive the BEST and TRUEST religion is muslim,,,,,,, but even that has parts that are just wrong too !
i dont follow religion AT ALL,,,, my faith is i treat others as i wish others to treat the ones i love and have mutual respect !
i understand why YOU feel that strong as my missus is maltese remember though dont forget that children out of marrige aint common where you and and MOST women are married at 25,,,, majority are at 20 i belive
having kids is easy, bringing them up so they make a better life that YOU have is the hard part,,,,, i struggle to make sure my little one does ok and all i really do is earn the money, my missus is the one who does the day to day stuff EVERY DAY !!!
religion is the FIRST route of evil though im afraid, people have used it toforce there OWN personal opinions on people
mormons are the BEST example of religion gone bad !!,, where the elder women are used to train the you men what to do sexually as they cant have sex before marrige..... and the top dog can take a fancy to who ever he wants and borrow your wife ect ect ect
the more i learn about religion the more im swayed to belive the BEST and TRUEST religion is muslim,,,,,,, but even that has parts that are just wrong too !
i dont follow religion AT ALL,,,, my faith is i treat others as i wish others to treat the ones i love and have mutual respect !
dont bring them up, give them for adoption, give them life as they deserve
23-05-2008, 10:37 PM
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You're calling me a murderer? How do you work that one out. I know of people who if they had a child, the child would end up murdering itself. At the end of the day, not everyone wants a child and to bring one into this world knowingly is a load of shit.
When I am shopping, I see people on there phone, reading a magazine and so on, while there kids run wild. It's a fucking joke, they don't give a shit. I don't even have kids but when I took my neighbors child shopping with me I made her a part of the shopping. I let her pick a magazine, I said we could have a competition and see who could spot a trolley with the most food in and so on, entertained her and I made damm sure she felt and was safe, secure and happy.
Not like some who beat there children half to death because they walked out into the road, all because they was too busy, because they clearly don't give a shit. Well, until of course there child is ran over because they didn't give a fuck, and now the media is involed, and all of a sudden they are the most caring person in the world. Shame they never had this attitude from day one because I'm telling you half of child related accidents wouldn't occare.
Once I was shopping in M&S and a child climbed into the elevator without her mother, who I could clearly see was a dirty horrible fucking skank, who I wouldn't trust to look after my shopping whlst I went for a shit, let alone a child. I didn't want to get involed, as I could see she was the type to have soemthing to say, so I held the elevator open for a good few minutes, did the mother notice? Did she fuck, she was too busy on her phone, organising her next shag probably. When I eventually shouted her, what did she do? She smacked the child across the legs, hard enough to make me cringe.
She was a lovely little girl, pleasent and polite, she asked me for the time every two seconds just to talk to me, but I just knew in 15 years time she would be just like her mother, because she will know no better.
If you believe these people deserve children, then you want to pull your head out of your arse hole, and take a good look around you.
Benni.
When I am shopping, I see people on there phone, reading a magazine and so on, while there kids run wild. It's a fucking joke, they don't give a shit. I don't even have kids but when I took my neighbors child shopping with me I made her a part of the shopping. I let her pick a magazine, I said we could have a competition and see who could spot a trolley with the most food in and so on, entertained her and I made damm sure she felt and was safe, secure and happy.
Not like some who beat there children half to death because they walked out into the road, all because they was too busy, because they clearly don't give a shit. Well, until of course there child is ran over because they didn't give a fuck, and now the media is involed, and all of a sudden they are the most caring person in the world. Shame they never had this attitude from day one because I'm telling you half of child related accidents wouldn't occare.
Once I was shopping in M&S and a child climbed into the elevator without her mother, who I could clearly see was a dirty horrible fucking skank, who I wouldn't trust to look after my shopping whlst I went for a shit, let alone a child. I didn't want to get involed, as I could see she was the type to have soemthing to say, so I held the elevator open for a good few minutes, did the mother notice? Did she fuck, she was too busy on her phone, organising her next shag probably. When I eventually shouted her, what did she do? She smacked the child across the legs, hard enough to make me cringe.
She was a lovely little girl, pleasent and polite, she asked me for the time every two seconds just to talk to me, but I just knew in 15 years time she would be just like her mother, because she will know no better.
If you believe these people deserve children, then you want to pull your head out of your arse hole, and take a good look around you.
Benni.
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23-05-2008, 10:44 PM
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what does that have to do with anything mate?
I am not talking IF they deserve children, NO CAUSE THEY ARE CUNTS, but the children deserves a life.
I am not talking IF they deserve children, NO CAUSE THEY ARE CUNTS, but the children deserves a life.
23-05-2008, 10:50 PM
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I agree it's wrong, and they shouldn't of get into such a situation, but they do. And realism is the only way forward, I think.
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23-05-2008, 10:53 PM
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well who told you that there parents are going to drug abusing and arseholes mate.
after all its life, has its ups and downs, but thats life. maybe they can be adopted by a caring couple who cant have kids!
after all its life, has its ups and downs, but thats life. maybe they can be adopted by a caring couple who cant have kids!
23-05-2008, 10:57 PM
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23-05-2008, 11:04 PM
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I meant, maybe the parents wont be using drugs etc?
I am going to take me for an example! when my mother found out she was pregnant with me she became mad! she even drank! for sure she wasnt expceting her third baby. at 6 months of pregnancy it became complicated, i like wanted to get out. she received treatment, and now here I am. and we very much talk about it till this very day, and she says to me how she didnt accepted me at first, but my dad told her that it was ok etc, and reassured her.
so if my mother doesnt want me, i am right there in her belly, why should i have to killed, I am innocent!
I know of a case, where a mother was thinking of abortion, she kept feeling the baby kicking all the time, painfuly too, a sif to say, why ure killig me, dont I have the right to live? at the end she gave birth and loves him to bits.
I am going to take me for an example! when my mother found out she was pregnant with me she became mad! she even drank! for sure she wasnt expceting her third baby. at 6 months of pregnancy it became complicated, i like wanted to get out. she received treatment, and now here I am. and we very much talk about it till this very day, and she says to me how she didnt accepted me at first, but my dad told her that it was ok etc, and reassured her.
so if my mother doesnt want me, i am right there in her belly, why should i have to killed, I am innocent!
I know of a case, where a mother was thinking of abortion, she kept feeling the baby kicking all the time, painfuly too, a sif to say, why ure killig me, dont I have the right to live? at the end she gave birth and loves him to bits.
24-05-2008, 01:03 AM
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I'm not saying all abortions are good; I can imagine a lot of women fall pregnant whilst making their career and so on, which means if they do keep the baby, it will be loved, just like you was mate. But there are a vast majority who fall pregnant because they have had sex on a park bench, while under the influence of cheap Vodka and probably don't even remember who the father is.
A baby should be the creation of two people, who think the world of one another, are deeply in love and have decided to have a baby because of this and know exactly what they want. I wish it never came to that, and protection was used, not just for pregnancy, but for many other reasons as we all know. But it wasn't, and an abortion is sometimes the only clever option.
Benni.
A baby should be the creation of two people, who think the world of one another, are deeply in love and have decided to have a baby because of this and know exactly what they want. I wish it never came to that, and protection was used, not just for pregnancy, but for many other reasons as we all know. But it wasn't, and an abortion is sometimes the only clever option.
Benni.
24-05-2008, 09:15 PM
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Bring it down to 12 weeks for everyday(if you can call it that?) abortions. IE people who have accidentley got pregnant and dont want the kid. NO i dont 100% agree with this abortion but it happens....
Leave it at 24 weeks for extreme cases. As mentioned, rape victims etc.
I think the only reason id want Lindsay to have an abortion is if there were serious abnormalities shown on scans, wether we would or not i dont know....i hope that choice never has to happen!
Leave it at 24 weeks for extreme cases. As mentioned, rape victims etc.
I think the only reason id want Lindsay to have an abortion is if there were serious abnormalities shown on scans, wether we would or not i dont know....i hope that choice never has to happen!
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25-05-2008, 06:03 AM
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25-05-2008, 06:04 AM
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25-05-2008, 08:18 AM
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They do check. Very very thorough checks, but it's no guarentee of a happy life.
If the baby is not wanted by the parents then it's far more cruel to subject them to an uncertain life then it is to terminate before they've even experienced a life. IMHO of course.
Aborting on medical grounds is a completely different subject...
If the baby is not wanted by the parents then it's far more cruel to subject them to an uncertain life then it is to terminate before they've even experienced a life. IMHO of course.
Aborting on medical grounds is a completely different subject...
25-05-2008, 08:21 AM
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maybe there should be a unevitable abortion if u cannot raise the kid propperly (i.e. druggy and alc addicts), dont have the means to raise it (welfare cunts) or havent completed your basic school education yet (i.e. 14 yr old school dropouts)
that would solve some problems....
that would solve some problems....
25-05-2008, 08:29 AM
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It would solve some issues, but can you imagine the 'human rights' fall out from something like that! What's to say the 14 year old won't make a great mum, or the druggy won't see the error of her ways and clean up and go on to be a good mum?
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27-05-2008, 07:03 AM
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Do you not think that the daughter he was raping would not have been just in having an abortion if it was available to protect her unborn child from the wicked ways of her father.
Or was it the will of god to make all those innocent children suffer in that manner ?
01-06-2008, 10:27 AM
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WTF, they was there for fucking years,,, what was gods reason for that,,,,,, maybe they DESERVED it...... or it that another " god works in mysterious ways " thing
01-06-2008, 10:29 AM
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01-06-2008, 01:03 PM
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i think abortion is wrong
although i will concede that sometimes it may be neccesary
but if you decide to abort the child you should pay for it with your own money, and if you don't have any money then the hospital bill will be deducted from any benifits you may recive
multiple abortions shoulod not be tolerated either as there was a report that at least 20 women in the uk who have had 8 or more abortions during their time, now that's just wrong
i think abortion is wrong
although i will concede that sometimes it may be neccesary
but if you decide to abort the child you should pay for it with your own money, and if you don't have any money then the hospital bill will be deducted from any benifits you may recive
multiple abortions shoulod not be tolerated either as there was a report that at least 20 women in the uk who have had 8 or more abortions during their time, now that's just wrong
01-06-2008, 01:18 PM
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posting again to say:
i will concede that sometimes it may be neccesary
but if you decide to abort the child you should pay for it with your own money, and if you don't have any money then the hospital bill will be deducted from any benifits you may recive
multiple abortions shoulod not be tolerated either as there was a report that at least 20 women in the uk who have had 8 or more abortions during their time, now that's just wrong
i will concede that sometimes it may be neccesary
but if you decide to abort the child you should pay for it with your own money, and if you don't have any money then the hospital bill will be deducted from any benifits you may recive
multiple abortions shoulod not be tolerated either as there was a report that at least 20 women in the uk who have had 8 or more abortions during their time, now that's just wrong
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01-06-2008, 05:02 PM
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posting again to say:
i think abortion is wrong
although i will concede that sometimes it may be neccesary
but if you decide to abort the child you should pay for it with your own money, and if you don't have any money then the hospital bill will be deducted from any benifits you may recive
multiple abortions shoulod not be tolerated either as there was a report that at least 20 women in the uk who have had 8 or more abortions during their time, now that's just wrong
i think abortion is wrong
although i will concede that sometimes it may be neccesary
but if you decide to abort the child you should pay for it with your own money, and if you don't have any money then the hospital bill will be deducted from any benifits you may recive
multiple abortions shoulod not be tolerated either as there was a report that at least 20 women in the uk who have had 8 or more abortions during their time, now that's just wrong
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01-06-2008, 05:16 PM
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Thanks fuck they did too, imagine the state of the place if all those chavvy useless potential "mothers" who've had 8 abortions actually had all the kids, we'd be even more overrun with utter scum than we are already!
Possibly not an issue in your country, but certainly is here in the UK!
Possibly not an issue in your country, but certainly is here in the UK!
01-06-2008, 05:32 PM
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160 and multiplying like rabbits over the years with such decent parental types to guide them. perhaps a blessing in disguise for society as a whole really.
01-06-2008, 06:16 PM
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chip we are devolving anyway im afraid
we dont make shite anymore,,,,, we get it made for us, we do less and less anyway these days leaving others to do the work to save us time, call centres are being based out the country as its cheeper ffs
ok not the same thing but sort of similer !
we dont make shite anymore,,,,, we get it made for us, we do less and less anyway these days leaving others to do the work to save us time, call centres are being based out the country as its cheeper ffs
ok not the same thing but sort of similer !
01-06-2008, 06:26 PM
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companies are wising up to foreign call centres. i for one ask to speak to a british person that i can understand if im connected to someone i need to keep getting to repeat because of their accent. and i dont mean weegies.
01-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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you sure about that mate, you aint a virgin customer are you
they are PROPER fuckers !!!
01-06-2008, 07:00 PM
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i am a virgin customer. i have found that telling them to phone me back wnen they have someone there that i will understand has worked for me.
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