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Old 02-05-2008, 05:05 PM
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Default Curved vane discs/grooved

Which way round they go ??

Pics please

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Old 02-05-2008, 05:11 PM
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the vanes will be letting air out from the outside and in from the inside

i would post up pics but they are in the car and the cars at work in bits

i'm assuming yuo've got curved vanes yes?
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if this was on a cossie, this would be the passenger side
the direction of the slots in the disc is the same as the direction of the curve of the vanes

should make sense
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go by the vent in the middle, vein cuts into the air
Old 02-05-2008, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dovboy
go by the vent in the middle, vein cuts into the air

front to rear? is that correct? if so my grooves are facing the other way as picture shows
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Originally Posted by costina
front to rear? is that correct? if so my grooves are facing the other way as picture shows
Forget the grooves they do NOT denote direction, the vanes in the middle of the disc do though (if they are curved).
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Originally Posted by dojj


if this was on a cossie, this would be the passenger side
the direction of the slots in the disc is the same as the direction of the curve of the vanes

should make sense
so the air goes from inside to outside correct?
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Forget the grooves they do NOT denote direction, the vanes in the middle of the disc do though (if they are curved).

Martin when driving the air is picked up from the outside imo is that correct?

cheers

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If the cooling vanes in the centre of the disc are curved then they should face backwards.. In simplton terms, push a pencil into the centre of the vented part of the disc, if it leans towards the rear it's ok.

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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
If the cooling vanes in the centre of the disc then they should face backwards.. In simplton terms, push a pencil into the centre of the vented part of the disc, if it leans towards the rear it's ok.

Thanks

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Originally Posted by costina
Martin when driving the air is picked up from the outside imo is that correct?

cheers

paul
No, the air goes in through the inside and gets expelled through the outer part.
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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
If the cooling vanes in the centre of the disc are curved then they should face backwards.. In simplton terms, push a pencil into the centre of the vented part of the disc, if it leans towards the rear it's ok.
put like that, it's harder to explain it any simpler
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Originally Posted by dojj
put like that, it's harder to explain it any simpler
Bolted them on yet?
Old 02-05-2008, 09:37 PM
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Just for you Paul

http://www.compbrake.co.uk/technical10.htm

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Originally Posted by cossie4i
That is the pic that caused confusioni'd fitted them right just checking

That pic shows curved internal going in the correct direction as Martin said,BUT the grooves don't match up with the rotorpoor pic imo

So was looking on here and found some grooves go one way and others like mine so started to question myself

I always like to ask so thanks to all for info

Paul
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Originally Posted by avid-fan
See thats a confusing pic imo as grooves are not the same as internal vanes,which is the same pic as you have posted Steve!!

I would say imo that the grooves would work better like this and have seen my AP kits that have this and also the other way

Paul
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Originally Posted by costina
See thats a confusing pic imo as grooves are not the same as internal vanes,which is the same pic as you have posted Steve!!

I would say imo that the grooves would work better like this and have seen my AP kits that have this and also the other way

Paul
Paul,

that picture is not confusing! I have already told you that the grooves in the face of the disc do NOT denote which side of the car the disc is fitted to, ignore them just focus on the venting in the centre.

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It through me as well Paul.

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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Paul,

that picture is not confusing! I have already told you that the grooves in the face of the disc do NOT denote which side of the car the disc is fitted to, ignore them just focus on the venting in the centre.

Martin.
Sorry Martin once i'd posted i forgot to mention that u said thatTrying to explain to Steve about said pic

You can see why i asked lol

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Originally Posted by costina
That is the pic that caused confusioni'd fitted them right just checking

That pic shows curved internal going in the correct direction as Martin said,BUT the grooves don't match up with the rotorpoor pic imo

Paul
That picture is 'borrowed' from the AP website Paul, If it makes it less confusing for you Steve / Paul I will edit it later.

As has been said, NEVER go off any surface markings on any discs

Remember not all discs have outer surface markings anyway, as seen here with Pauls (Gracelands) new Brembo discs.


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Old 03-05-2008, 08:50 AM
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Cheers,i'd fitting mine right anyway but i always ask

Would be a good idea to edit the pic for the rotors u sell

Regards

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I have taken the surface markings off all together so people only look at the internal grooves and the wording written along side them which explains it all.


If approved it will be swapped at the next website session on Wednesday

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Originally Posted by martin-reyland
Bolted them on yet?
everything is off, everything is in place
ent to mocal to get the fittings
they are closed


and i need to be home, with the car, for 12.30

things just don't get any better do they
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do as martin said.......it makes things easyier..........
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Interesting debate, lets hope I bolted my new rotors on the correct way lol.... I shall check and then admit embarrassment or otherwise shortly - I went based on the surface cuts

RW

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Old 03-05-2008, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Steven_RW
Interesting debate, lets hope I bolted my new rotors on the correct way lol.... I shall check and then admit embarrassment or otherwise shortly - I went based on the surface cuts

RW
As Martin says, to remember- air vents backward from above, you cant get it wrong on any corner then n matter what the details on the faces do
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Thanks MrC - I hadn't managed to figure that out from the last 10 really clear posts above....

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Originally Posted by dojj
everything is off, everything is in place
ent to mocal to get the fittings
they are closed


and i need to be home, with the car, for 12.30

things just don't get any better do they
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I said I would admit it if I had them on the wrong way round... and i do... lol

The grooves faced fwd on the AP rotors when the vanes were facing back

I then replaced them with perf. friction ones and the grooves on the disc face back when the vents face back and I have put them on with the grooves facing fwd like the AP. Thus they are on back to front!

Sigh.. need to get the front end off the ground so I can swap em over. Bank holiday monday well spent

Cheers

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Originally Posted by Steven_RW
I said I would admit it if I had them on the wrong way round... and i do... lol

The grooves faced fwd on the AP rotors when the vanes were facing back

I then replaced them with perf. friction ones and the grooves on the disc face back when the vents face back and I have put them on with the grooves facing fwd like the AP. Thus they are on back to front!

Sigh.. need to get the front end off the ground so I can swap em over. Bank holiday monday well spent

Cheers

RW
Easy done see As Martin said don't go by the grooves

Paul
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