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there is an ever growing population of polish local to me and i couldnt give a monkeys, they seem ok to me, polite, all got jobs, so fuck em i got my own life to lead thanks.
agree with the comments on polish women
some reet tidy ones about would love to get jiggy with one or 3.
agree with the comments on polish women
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thats good. hopefully it continues for you and you dont have difficulty in finding work due to the excessive amounts of cheap labour on offer.
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neither do i, theres still jobs around here for the lazy bastards who are eternal dolers...
funny thing is they were all unemployed BEFORE the polish came over so what was their excuse then?
funny thing is they were all unemployed BEFORE the polish came over so what was their excuse then?
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i dont think it is another issue, if somebody really wants a job they'll find one, we've got minimum wage in place so it's not like the poles can undercut alot of jobs by working for cheaper... they take most of the poorly paid jobs anyway.
might be different to where you are but i've yet to meet even ONE british person, who has GENUINELY been looking for a job, who hasnt found one 'due to the polish'. when i do meet that person my view on it may change but i see lots of jobs still wanting workers... dont let the polish be used as an excuse for somebody too lazy to work.
Other PF'ers > have you been prevented from getting a job because of polish?
Even if it happens what god given right have we got to a job?? When our idiotic politiians signed us up to the
EU with all its bolox, we agreed to treat members of the EU like our natives. thats not the fault of the polish workers is it its the politicians so take it up with them.
might be different to where you are but i've yet to meet even ONE british person, who has GENUINELY been looking for a job, who hasnt found one 'due to the polish'. when i do meet that person my view on it may change but i see lots of jobs still wanting workers... dont let the polish be used as an excuse for somebody too lazy to work.
Other PF'ers > have you been prevented from getting a job because of polish?
Even if it happens what god given right have we got to a job?? When our idiotic politiians signed us up to the
EU with all its bolox, we agreed to treat members of the EU like our natives. thats not the fault of the polish workers is it its the politicians so take it up with them.
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theyre not all in the minimum wage bracket though. the building trade is flooded with them working for a few quid an hour less than the home grown workers driving wages down, the only people that benefits is the bosses who have cheaper labour to use but as most dont seem to be able to work to anacceptable quality standard as very few seem to qualified to do the job . bosses only seem to see the short term pound signs though.
i dont blame the people personally i do blame the government for failing to tackle the problem thats seen thousands come to small towns placing even more strain on already stretched services.
i dont blame the people personally i do blame the government for failing to tackle the problem thats seen thousands come to small towns placing even more strain on already stretched services.
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the polish come here for an average of five years send the money home then go back and set themselves up, tbh the the poles that come here legit help the country buy paying tax and fooking off and never claiming a thing, but then there is a growing number that come here dont pay tax commit crime and leech the system there the ones that need to be burched and sent home
i feel the nigerians/afgan/eastern guys are the bigger problem with there asylem seeking excuses, yeah there country may be in sh*t and they may have seen terrible things but thats no excuse the sit on there asses all day claiming what they can and going on the rob or scamming hard working people im no saying its all of them but i've met a few who well and truely exploit the system that is there to protect vulnerable people
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the polish come here for an average of five years send the money home then go back and set themselves up, tbh the the poles that come here legit help the country buy paying tax and fooking off and never claiming a thing, but then there is a growing number that come here dont pay tax commit crime and leech the system there the ones that need to be burched and sent home
If you was asked to go to Spain, earn 4 times your salary scratching your nutsack, and return back to Blighty in 3 years time would you turn it down?
Would you fuck!!
That it what those you dont rate are doing, Its not their fault but ours.
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thats abit of an unfair comment because the brits that move there are far from cheap labour and most of them stay there for good
the polish come here for an average of five years send the money home then go back and set themselves up, tbh the the poles that come here legit help the country buy paying tax and fooking off and never claiming a thing, but then there is a growing number that come here dont pay tax commit crime and leech the system there the ones that need to be burched and sent home
i feel the nigerians/afgan/eastern guys are the bigger problem with there asylem seeking excuses, yeah there country may be in sh*t and they may have seen terrible things but thats no excuse the sit on there asses all day claiming what they can and going on the rob or scamming hard working people im no saying its all of them but i've met a few who well and truely exploit the system that is there to protect vulnerable people
the polish come here for an average of five years send the money home then go back and set themselves up, tbh the the poles that come here legit help the country buy paying tax and fooking off and never claiming a thing, but then there is a growing number that come here dont pay tax commit crime and leech the system there the ones that need to be burched and sent home
i feel the nigerians/afgan/eastern guys are the bigger problem with there asylem seeking excuses, yeah there country may be in sh*t and they may have seen terrible things but thats no excuse the sit on there asses all day claiming what they can and going on the rob or scamming hard working people im no saying its all of them but i've met a few who well and truely exploit the system that is there to protect vulnerable people
it doesnt matter where they come from or their colour. the amount of people coming into this country needs to be controlled to stop sudden influxes flooding everything from employment to housing to services.
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i dont think it is another issue, if somebody really wants a job they'll find one, we've got minimum wage in place so it's not like the poles can undercut alot of jobs by working for cheaper... they take most of the poorly paid jobs anyway.
might be different to where you are but i've yet to meet even ONE british person, who has GENUINELY been looking for a job, who hasnt found one 'due to the polish'. when i do meet that person my view on it may change but i see lots of jobs still wanting workers... dont let the polish be used as an excuse for somebody too lazy to work.
Other PF'ers > have you been prevented from getting a job because of polish?
Even if it happens what god given right have we got to a job?? When our idiotic politiians signed us up to the
EU with all its bolox, we agreed to treat members of the EU like our natives. thats not the fault of the polish workers is it its the politicians so take it up with them.
might be different to where you are but i've yet to meet even ONE british person, who has GENUINELY been looking for a job, who hasnt found one 'due to the polish'. when i do meet that person my view on it may change but i see lots of jobs still wanting workers... dont let the polish be used as an excuse for somebody too lazy to work.
Other PF'ers > have you been prevented from getting a job because of polish?
Even if it happens what god given right have we got to a job?? When our idiotic politiians signed us up to the
EU with all its bolox, we agreed to treat members of the EU like our natives. thats not the fault of the polish workers is it its the politicians so take it up with them.
Untill l got made redundent (sp) last year. Left that job and got another still in screen printing, working with the most lazy and useless poles l have ever seen and after 6mths l got told sorry can not afford to keep you on thers no work. Ok not a lot l can do about that then l find out two weeks later all the lazy gets got there mates jobs there.
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obviously on a cheaper rate. an employer cant hire someone to do your job within a certain time if youve been layed of due to lack of work?
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Isnt it our fault (our being the Country) for letting them?
If you was asked to go to Spain, earn 4 times your salary scratching your nutsack, and return back to Blighty in 3 years time would you turn it down?
Would you fuck!!
That it what those you dont rate are doing, Its not their fault but ours.
If you was asked to go to Spain, earn 4 times your salary scratching your nutsack, and return back to Blighty in 3 years time would you turn it down?
Would you fuck!!
That it what those you dont rate are doing, Its not their fault but ours.
if you read my post ive got no problem with them coming here just aslong as the contribute im fed up with seeing large families of foreigners living in council/pubilc housing when my g/fs mate cant get housed tbh i think council house is wrong but i cant knock it got my g/f out of trouble but then im paying for it though tax and in my life time will more than pay for it
tbh i cant air my reals views here as they offend some users, i see how things are going in other countries and have made some funny observations
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WOW, some real strong views here,
to be honest,if somebody really wants a job they'll find one.
there minimum wage in place so it's not like the polish or others can undercut alot of jobs by working for cheaper, and most take poorly paid jobs anyway.
really they do the jobs Brits dont want to do.
ANd them working for a few quid an hour, thats not legal, so the blaim lays with the people whom are happy to employ them and pay them a pittance to the the job, as its just explitation and illegal.
I am not english, I am from finland, I have lived here for years and years, and never claimed a penny, i even have private health care, so i dont even go near this countries prescious NHS, so i give the country $$$ from my wages, $$$ in council tax and $$$ on petrol etc and i dont get anything back, i am not complaining, i met my husband (english) in finland and he persauded me to come live here.
Seems people always complain about minorites, first it was the blacks, indians, now the Poles,
There are FAR bigger problems with people who are ENGLISH and live of the state with no intention to work,
All the poles i know here are educated to a high lever, (teachers, even a doctor,) but do menial jobs here apart from one who is a vet, but they all pay there taxes etc. tbh, the crminal population of poles here is a BIG minority. there are enough brists who go abraod and comit crimes,
If you dont like poles doing these job, persuade the unemployed slobs who intened to sign on forever to go to work.
The blaim lays with employers and the govenment, let people get on with there lifes,
If you could earn 3x more money abroad most would go,....
there is lots of grafiti and vandalisum here, all done by english youths.
to be honest,if somebody really wants a job they'll find one.
there minimum wage in place so it's not like the polish or others can undercut alot of jobs by working for cheaper, and most take poorly paid jobs anyway.
really they do the jobs Brits dont want to do.
ANd them working for a few quid an hour, thats not legal, so the blaim lays with the people whom are happy to employ them and pay them a pittance to the the job, as its just explitation and illegal.
I am not english, I am from finland, I have lived here for years and years, and never claimed a penny, i even have private health care, so i dont even go near this countries prescious NHS, so i give the country $$$ from my wages, $$$ in council tax and $$$ on petrol etc and i dont get anything back, i am not complaining, i met my husband (english) in finland and he persauded me to come live here.
Seems people always complain about minorites, first it was the blacks, indians, now the Poles,
There are FAR bigger problems with people who are ENGLISH and live of the state with no intention to work,
All the poles i know here are educated to a high lever, (teachers, even a doctor,) but do menial jobs here apart from one who is a vet, but they all pay there taxes etc. tbh, the crminal population of poles here is a BIG minority. there are enough brists who go abraod and comit crimes,
If you dont like poles doing these job, persuade the unemployed slobs who intened to sign on forever to go to work.
The blaim lays with employers and the govenment, let people get on with there lifes,
If you could earn 3x more money abroad most would go,....
there is lots of grafiti and vandalisum here, all done by english youths.
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I work with lots of Poles ![Sad](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif)
There is no way they are good for our country.
The employers yes, but not the majority of workers.
People are saying they only take the menial roles, so only get minimum wage.
That is true to start with, BUT after time companys only end up with Eastern Europeans working for them, so when higher placed posistions become available the only people within the company (who are obviously have a better chance of getting the posistion, because they already know how the company works and have probably already been "GROOMED" for the role
) are the imigrants.
And of course with the better job comes an increase in wage, BUT not to what should be the going rate for that job !
Now you have a situation where more of the prominant decision making jobs are filled by Imigrants (in my place generaly up to mid managment posistions), so who do they favour , Brits or imigrants to take on or promote ????
Of course you also have the next issue, comunication, with so many menial jobs filled by imigrants, the managment need underlings to them to comunicate with the lower posistion employeeys cos they cant understand English.
In my line of work it makes it so much harder, Im a maintenance engineer in a fresh food factory, now when they start using the machinery, they are "taught" how to use it by someone that hasnt learnt properly themselves, all due to not understanding explanations properly, they dont say they havent undrstood, cos that would make em look bad !
And then when the machinery breaks, half the time due to the way its been operated or set up, all you get is a call on walkie talkie "enginerr xxx machine broken, you come fix", you try asking some questions to give you some bacgground of whats happened, so you are better prepared to fix THEIR problem, (take the correct spares to do the job on the first visit, go to the correct area of the factory even etc) and guess what answer you get "engineer xxx machine broken, you come fix"![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
As far as minimum wage goes, ok so lots are getting it (to start with as have already stated), but that still keeps other wages low, why should an employer pay any more when they got these imigrants HAPPY to earn that, all it does is keep our jobs pay and conditions low, cos not only will they work for minimum, but what they do and the conditions they will do it in are crap/dangerous ! How many Poles shall we say have ever heard of health and safety
Other points are, there IS illegal agencies set up out there, my mate at work is seeing a Polish girl and she showed him a shop the other day, and out the back is an illegal agency, that if you have the right contacts (now what imigrants dont) they WILL get you work, but for that they dont pay the minimum wage everyone talking about. Ok so the employer has to pay more for an agency worker (but not so much to these illegal ones obviously as legit ones cos they dont have all the legit ones outgoings), BUT in my employees business, that great cos they dont have to take on a full time employee, and pay nat ins and holiday pay, and in our business of fresh food, orders go up and down, so they just stop using the agancy, so dont have to pay a full time employee when orders arent so high, orders go up, ring the agency flood the shop floor with cheap labour ! EVEN had one of our managers running one of these agencies supplying us with labour from his agency !!
, now who picks and chooses how many workers we needed, oh and the fact he was keeping hold of the girls passports if they wanted work and not giving em back, and blackmailing them for sex ! (obviously a totaly different story ! ), anyway more due to the latter he obviously dont work for us any more ! ![Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif)
Another thing is these imigrants dont put hardly jack shit into the country financialy, IF they go home for i think it 1 week in a year (may be two) they get the tax back they have paid, so in affect they dont have to pay tax on their earnings, and also the same goes for their car road tax as well (as long as the car goes back). It changing a bit now due to as said previously, but when the first influx come they didnt shop in the country, they had food sent from home, but seeing as there is so many of them here the supermarkets are starting to sell what they want (proof initself how many must be here for supermarkets to fill valuable shelf space with items specificaly aimed at them! )
Basically am NOT knocking the imigrants for bettering themselves, as all the points ive made and all the ones I come into contact with are hard working and employed, even exploited (but even with the exploitation they are way better off and happy), BUT it DOES NOT help our country, the wealthy business man yes, the common worker NO, it just keeps us down, down to a standard we have fought wars for to improve.
Oh and just as a side note 90% of the Polish women in my place are stunning, making 90% of the English women look like mingers
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There is no way they are good for our country.
The employers yes, but not the majority of workers.
People are saying they only take the menial roles, so only get minimum wage.
That is true to start with, BUT after time companys only end up with Eastern Europeans working for them, so when higher placed posistions become available the only people within the company (who are obviously have a better chance of getting the posistion, because they already know how the company works and have probably already been "GROOMED" for the role
![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
And of course with the better job comes an increase in wage, BUT not to what should be the going rate for that job !
Now you have a situation where more of the prominant decision making jobs are filled by Imigrants (in my place generaly up to mid managment posistions), so who do they favour , Brits or imigrants to take on or promote ????
Of course you also have the next issue, comunication, with so many menial jobs filled by imigrants, the managment need underlings to them to comunicate with the lower posistion employeeys cos they cant understand English.
In my line of work it makes it so much harder, Im a maintenance engineer in a fresh food factory, now when they start using the machinery, they are "taught" how to use it by someone that hasnt learnt properly themselves, all due to not understanding explanations properly, they dont say they havent undrstood, cos that would make em look bad !
And then when the machinery breaks, half the time due to the way its been operated or set up, all you get is a call on walkie talkie "enginerr xxx machine broken, you come fix", you try asking some questions to give you some bacgground of whats happened, so you are better prepared to fix THEIR problem, (take the correct spares to do the job on the first visit, go to the correct area of the factory even etc) and guess what answer you get "engineer xxx machine broken, you come fix"
![Wall](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/wall.gif)
As far as minimum wage goes, ok so lots are getting it (to start with as have already stated), but that still keeps other wages low, why should an employer pay any more when they got these imigrants HAPPY to earn that, all it does is keep our jobs pay and conditions low, cos not only will they work for minimum, but what they do and the conditions they will do it in are crap/dangerous ! How many Poles shall we say have ever heard of health and safety
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Other points are, there IS illegal agencies set up out there, my mate at work is seeing a Polish girl and she showed him a shop the other day, and out the back is an illegal agency, that if you have the right contacts (now what imigrants dont) they WILL get you work, but for that they dont pay the minimum wage everyone talking about. Ok so the employer has to pay more for an agency worker (but not so much to these illegal ones obviously as legit ones cos they dont have all the legit ones outgoings), BUT in my employees business, that great cos they dont have to take on a full time employee, and pay nat ins and holiday pay, and in our business of fresh food, orders go up and down, so they just stop using the agancy, so dont have to pay a full time employee when orders arent so high, orders go up, ring the agency flood the shop floor with cheap labour ! EVEN had one of our managers running one of these agencies supplying us with labour from his agency !!
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Another thing is these imigrants dont put hardly jack shit into the country financialy, IF they go home for i think it 1 week in a year (may be two) they get the tax back they have paid, so in affect they dont have to pay tax on their earnings, and also the same goes for their car road tax as well (as long as the car goes back). It changing a bit now due to as said previously, but when the first influx come they didnt shop in the country, they had food sent from home, but seeing as there is so many of them here the supermarkets are starting to sell what they want (proof initself how many must be here for supermarkets to fill valuable shelf space with items specificaly aimed at them! )
Basically am NOT knocking the imigrants for bettering themselves, as all the points ive made and all the ones I come into contact with are hard working and employed, even exploited (but even with the exploitation they are way better off and happy), BUT it DOES NOT help our country, the wealthy business man yes, the common worker NO, it just keeps us down, down to a standard we have fought wars for to improve.
Oh and just as a side note 90% of the Polish women in my place are stunning, making 90% of the English women look like mingers
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