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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Default Geometry setup,,,, someone explain please

ok,

had the car setup for tracking today, as i knew it way out

i've not fitted my adj tca's yet,

here is the results from today,

do they look ok????

how much more negative camber do i need???

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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 06:56 PM
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try asking Escyscott.................he and claire have a pug track car
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:10 PM
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would be better if we could read it !

and it looks like its a computer generated alignment system, which unless you know what the readings mean the it can set your car up all to cock

make it a bit clearer and i will try to explain it !
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
would be better if we could read it !

and it looks like its a computer generated alignment system, which unless you know what the readings mean the it can set your car up all to cock

make it a bit clearer and i will try to explain it !

thanks for ther totally fooking useless info



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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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i would have fitted the tca's first then you could have adjusted the camber whilst it was on the equipment.
i would find out how much camber other track pugs use and try it on yours.

you wont really be able to adjust caster,and you will have to re-do the toe in/out again once you get the camber to what you want.

im no expert but used to use the alignment equipment a lot where i used to work.i did my rs500 on them when i fitted adjustable tca's.
hope this helps a bit
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:29 PM
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your left hand side is within tolerance but your other side it outside what it should be.could be a slightly bent tca,worn bush,old accident damage etc.

get the new arms on it and go from there.....
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yeah had planned to fit the tca's before hand but that plan changed

will return once they are fitted, but needed the tracking setup as i knew it was way out..

but was hoping from the printout someone could say things like

"with camber like that it will be fine, or bad or. blah blah"

not sure what all the values mean...lol
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
your left hand side is within tolerance but your other side it outside what it should be.could be a slightly bent tca,worn bush,old accident damage etc.

get the new arms on it and go from there.....

where do you read that bit???

it has newish wish bones, so all bushes "should" be fine.

accident damage? i guess so, it's nearly 20yrs old..lol
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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As above im interested in understanding whats regarded as the best set up etc for track set up on a fwd car.

If working from factory settings
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Originally Posted by Spiky
thanks for ther totally fooking useless info



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listen pal, your the goon who took a car to be set up and doesnt understand it, not doenbt fit an adjustable suspension item before having it done - fook me for not being able to read your crappy report, looking at it ( and one of my qualification is 4 wheel laser alignment and vehicle geometry btw which is what i do for a living ) it looks like a cheap computer generated piece of shit - lets say it like it is shall we.
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if you look at the picture;
the nominal values are the factory settings and tolerances for the car.
the diagnosis is what your car actually measured on the equipment
the adjustments is any adjustments that have been made-ie the toe in/out was adjusted.

the factory settings will not be ideal for track use which is why its best to find out what other 205 users have theirs set to,then you can adjust it to that and try it.its trial and error when finding an ideal set up for track with what set up you have.you will not be able to adjust caster but will be able to do camber/toe in,with what you have(will have).

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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by markk
listen pal, your the goon who took a car to be set up and doesnt understand it, not doenbt fit an adjustable suspension item before having it done - fook me for not being able to read your crappy report, looking at it ( and one of my qualification is 4 wheel laser alignment and vehicle geometry btw which is what i do for a living ) it looks like a cheap computer generated piece of shit - lets say it like it is shall we.
stop with the name calling

i took it for TRACKING , cant you fooking read????

and i had this printout out ,

god how hard can it be to understand, and what i'm asking what does it all mean. FOR FOOK SAKE


edited to add,

note to self, add him to ugnore list

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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by fordsportjay
if you look at the picture;
the nominal values are the factory settings and tolerances for the car.
the diagnosis is what your car actually measured on the equipment
the adjustments is any adjustments that have been made-ie the toe in/out was adjusted.

the factory settings will not be ideal for track use which is why its best to find out what other 205 users have theirs set to,then you can adjust it to that and try it.its trial and error when finding an ideal set up for track with what set up you have.you will not be able to adjust caster but will be able to do camber/toe in,with what you have(will have).
cheers for taking the time to explain

i've asked on the 205 forum now

cheers again
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:09 PM
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Not a 205 but my erst has adj tca's, had them setup last summer with track use in mind, as a compromise went for 1.5 degrees negative camber....was told a little more would be better on track but it'd piss through tyres with any more camber than i've got! Seems to work well on the track tho! As said above standard settings are no good for track use....manufacturers might get some complaints if peoples tyres were wearing out in 5000 miles lol.
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Old Mar 12, 2008 | 11:17 PM
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yeah i bet they would...lol

ok cheers for the info
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