bonus_boy

you can give me 300 quid and you can suck my dick!

deal?

arkley

two seperate people have just offered to do it for 500 quid

and you still winge

you really are a cheap cunt

bonus_boy

to be honest, i would rather keep the 500 and do the conversion myself as people are still willing to help me along the way, and i will learn how to do it in the future for next time...

i do think 500 is cheap for the conversion, i didnt say it wasnt...but as i said above if people are willing to help me along the way when im doing the conversion myself then things shouldnt be any different...

zetecapri

do it yourself mate if youre in no rush, you can plod along with it then, and its not too hard a conversion once you get your head around it. i didnt do my car but ive helped along with others and gotta say its only the loom that causes probs, and theres wiring diagrams on what to do all over the net.

people go on about having to change sump, flywheel etc, 9 times out of 10 you have to swap a few bits over when swapping an engine anyway, even when its the same one.

and personally a grand budget is well easy if you do some work yourself, ive bought new engine, loads of turbo conversion parts, interior, wheels, paint, suspension etc for mine and ive tottted it up and it owes me right now, 1200 quid. bet you could pull a donor car from ebay for about 100 quid, or go to a scrappy and ask to buy a whole car, you take it, rip out all you want then weigh the bare shell in later

bonus_boy

exactly...

well its not a case of im in a rush to do it...more like how much i want it done lol....

well hopefully im going to get the 1.3 out the weekend with a hand from a mate of mine, once ive cleaned all the bay up readi for the new engine, il start putting abit of cash to one side and look about, well i know a owner of a scrap yard so he would probs give me a donor car for only a small fee...

your only in wolvo aswell i see...and as you know how to do a zetec conversion....... lol only joking mate...

as ive said before though i could easily get one fitted and the car owe me alot less than a grand.....ive got 550 to play with anyway..should easily keep it in budget....

bonus_boy

what sort of power could i get from a 1.8 silver top engine (whats a escort lx or ghia? 105ps or 115ps)

with 4-2-1 manifold/exhaust and air filter?

could i change the cams to 130ps ones from the xr3i? or change the throttle body?

whats things could i change just to get abit more power from it?

also when ive sourced a donor car, i think im going to replace the conrod bolts for arp products..just for the safe factor...

gordyshreds

is this going on the road?

Nick.

Unless Jay buys a trailor.. yes it will be driven to the track

bonus_boy

as said above by nick...it will be going on the road yes

daily runner "slash" track toy!

sexr3i

you might find you need a tank and pump from a fuel injection model too. Think 1300's don't have the swirl pot and have the little mechanical pump driven off the cam?

lx and ghia are 105spec, gti is 115 and xr3i is 130 if fitted with rear disks.

If you're gona put 130 spec bits on it, get the cams, throttle body and ecu together. You might need the fuel pressure reg too (or fse valve) or you'll have a little flat spot.
Basic mods of free flowing filter and exhaust (inc decat etc) should see 145+ bhp.

gordyshreds

just outta interest what did ya ins company quote you for the converison?

Matt Evans

Ive gotta say i'm waiting for the quote as well, specifically when he tells them its got a full roll cage in as well !

gordyshreds

a cage 2??? owch! Best get the KY out!

Matt Evans

Imagine the question - "any modifications to the vehicle...?"

gordyshreds

unless he is with a specialist like brentacre or flux etc and over 21 it's gonna be very very hard, the yearly premium 3rd party will be more than the car cost to build...
if you want a fun track car, why not get a mk2 xr2 or something, with a few suspension tweeks etc they are great fun, i did my first few track days in one of these and could not recommend it more

Zetec_mk4_XR3i

aye sexr3i is spot on - when i did mine i had to change tank to an EFi one and change one of fuel lines to a thicker one

bonus_boy

well im 18 with a years no claims....il be 19 in august with 2 years no claims "touch wood"

but if worst comes to worst my mum will insure it aint il go on here policy....

went to a few scrap yards today to look for a xr3i tank, and the bigger fuel line out the two...but no luck!

rosco you say u'd go for the late xr3i model, is this the mk4/mk5? guessing it was the mk4, and also what year is it from that i should go for (as you say go for the late xr3i)

bonus_boy

how much hassel would it be to go for the xr2i 1800 zetec?

its got the standard zetec clutch and flywheel on it at the moment, also zetec gearbox...

what would i need to change to go for the engine above? worth the hassel as one has come along.....

help asap please

bonus_boy

as said above...

could someone help me out asap please...



would i still have to change the flywheel and clutch to accept a cvh gearbox?

and i know i will still obviously have to modify a cvh engine mount the get the engine sitting nice..

but would i have to change anythink else if i go with the engine above...

bonus_boy

could someone help me please...

need to let the chap know asap

B19LRW

its the same engine as a 105bhp escort. identical to fit as a 130bhp 1.

bonus_boy

same as a 105bhp but same to fit as a 130bhp? i thought the 130 bhp was harder to fit (well change a few more things) or on the 130bhp (xr3i) i have to change the clutch dont i so it will accept a cvh gearbox?

bonus_boy

hopefully soon il have the whole 1.8 engine, ecu, loom etc...

then il have get the engine mount modified

then get a cvh gearbox

then get the injection tank and bigger fuel line

could someone please tell me what else is needed for the conversion?

bud-weis

FORGET THE ESCORT...if you're on a budget then just get a nippy car and strip it! then enjoy your track action.

summat like this would be ideal....take a couple of hours to strip the insides and bobs your uncle!! TRACK CAR DONE!

http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/345363.htm

gordyshreds

as above

wirralphil

to fit the zetec you will still need a Efi Cvh flywheel and clutch.

forget the 130 bits for the time being tho, just get the engine fitted and running first.

Rick

How much have they quoted you on insurance? You need to check that before u do anything.

You are asking questions which shows clearly u haven't got a clue, and u want to do it yourself! And of course it's "the labour that costs" welcome to planet earth.

gordyshreds

even your mum may find it hard getting a good deal or even finding a policy at all that allows a roll cage and an engine conversion. Some insurance companys wont even allow an induction kit. and the type of policy that will allow the cage etc etc may not be hot on having you as a driver on it 2. you could prob get Ł500 for your car as it is. The conversion will cost you about Ł1000 realistically, becuase you will be paying someone to do most of the labour and theirs always parts you need etc etc etc. so you could spend all this money on a mk4 escort and pay the same again for insurance, or get a car that is pretty quick in the first place (a 1.8 zetec in a mk4 escort wont be as fast as you prob hope)
get a mk3 fiesta rs1800 or an xr2 or something with the power etc in the first place all done and dusted and wont be a pain to insure. Seriously get the insurance homework done. What happens if you do the conversion then phone about and cant get covered??? Or the only cover you get is Ł1500 ??? surely half an hour of phone calls will put your mind at rest.

sexr3i

no you don't 105spec zetec flywheel is fine, cvh flywheel needs modding.

xr4x4rs

iTrader: (5)

oh and dont forget you need wiring for the fuel pump as bigo escorts dont have any at all

zetecapri

if you fancy a drive to willenhall, youll get a tank off a black xr3i cab in the scrapyard by the fire station, cars still there i think.