Martin-Hadland

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Mashed oil pump





Holes everywhere









Hole in my baffled sump



The culprit

Mixja

ouchy...
looks expensive....

JonnyBravo

Yeee haaaaa

Proper job there Martin

Atleast you have a few bits to add to the collection.

When did it happen ?

Martin-Hadland

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Happened at Brands on a warming up lap, hopefully fixed in time for Bedford.

Si B

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Were they uprated rods or original ones? What sorta power were you running at the time?

Si

dojj

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nah mate, it just looks fooked

the rods obviously let go but was it standard and what sort of revs were you doing when it went bang?

can't say i've seen a rod go like that before, i've only seen them pop at the big or little ends not just come aprat in the middle like tha tone seems to have

Charlie Chalk

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Nice mess


Hope its done for bedford

Martin-Hadland

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Std Rods with about 270hp and the max revs ever used were 7.5k, new donkey has h section rods

-beefy-

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lol ive done exactly the same to a cvh mopor in the rst ,

still got the the chunk of rod in the drawer as a reminder lol


way to go martoon

beef

Si B

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We have a friend (Andy) who has a TT lump in his Lotus Elise, running 320-350bhp using a largely standard bottom end.

Just curious if you were pushing big power to get the rod to snap.

Would have thought 270bhp and normal revs would have been fine - freaky bad luck perhaps?

At least the new motor will have some harder internals! More boost and more power then!!!

Be good to see it at Bedford, want to see how a modest power FWD car with the right bits on it actually goes

Si

dave cos4x4

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done it proper Martin.

fezzajsy

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AlexF

LOL @ modest power

leecavturbo

no ARP's fitted ?

Martin-Hadland

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Why would that have helped? The big end was still attached and the bearing was still mint!!

leecavturbo

i see. it wouldn't then

Benni

I love that car, I have dreampt of that being my track car.

Fudgey

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wounder!

as unfortunate as it is, im always interested to see engines that have let go lol

any ideas what caused it?

as i know of a few std audi motors making more power than that and still ok

i think wyane at pro-alloys elise with an audi engine was running circa 350bhp on std motor when it dropped a valve...

that was a mess!

Kelv

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Ouch, poor little engine.

Fixed in no time im sure

Martyn

What engine is it?

Big Will_

Not good

Taken the head out as well Martoon?

dojj

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he probably had a spare for them "just in case" moments sitting in the back of the motor anyway and more than likely spannered it into place and then carried on a few minutes later

those shots are probably from when he got home and took it apart during his tea break

Kelv

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dojj, the worrying thing is your probably right

Bullett

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thats mashed.im sure this isnt bad luck,its just fates way o saying why leave it standard when martin own it.its a come on get me modded knudge.

Chip

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do you really need to ask that?


Whole thing must be fucked surely?


Luckily unlike cossies you can easily find a perfect condition head for these vag motors though luckily.


Good bit of carnage that martin, if you are going to fuck it, do it properly I reckon


New motor sounds interesting, what sort of power will it be?

Big Will_

Chip-3Door

Was curious

Most of it seems to have gone out the side of the block

dojj

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4th picture down shows the picton at the top of the cylinder, so it's either saved everything or it's fooked everything

i'd more than likley put money on it having fooked everything as it would have let go with a bit of speed

Martin-Hadland

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I do have several spare engines, one of which has already been stripped/checked and re-assembled with special valves, big port head, h section rods, balanced bottom end , new flywheel and twin plate clutch. The damaged sump has slowed progress

It wasn't such a stupid question, the head is totally untouched.

Spiky

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for chip then

Chip

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Certainly is, im amazed at that when the rod let go totally, must have been when the piston was on it way down

Dan

Fook!

Tony Ryan

sadly ive just sold the engine that might've helped but ive still got the shell if you fancy a project ! I believe these use the 4wd Floorpan from the TT so a 4wd Seat Cupra might be possible .

Martin-Hadland

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Thanks but I'm looking to offload projects rather than take on more

richm

Tony - is that a Cupra Cup car?
Do you know what engine spec those Cup cars ran - power/rpm and inrternal components?
I believe they were around 250bhp and pretty much standard internals, including the rods, with baffled sump and paddle clutch. Do you know if this is accurate?

Tony Ryan

yes, thats about right , i ran this one this season , great cars .

JonnyBravo

Lucky with the head

I had a engine go off at 9k once and 3 rods left the block, understandably I assumed the head would of been totalled but that wasn't touched either.

I'm not quite sure how though

richm

chhers Tony
we bought one with a view to converting for the Castle Combe saloons championship this year, but was too bent to be worth reclaiming it turned out, so all the bits are going in a TT instead we need considerably more than 270bhp though, so will be following Martin's rebuild with interest

RickyLee53

In a turbo engine, surely it would always happen on the way down? (unless it's a high revving 1)

They snap/bend with torque, its rev's what send them the other way.

My Evo did the exact same and head was untouched.

However, my mates civic, 9500rpm rod failure. That heads been damaged slightly

AlexF

COUGH

Firenza??

COUGH

RONNIE AMIS

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right in front of me coming out of graham hill band