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Old 09-01-2008, 09:00 PM
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was having aflick through the paper on the way home from work and noticed an interesting article about this subject. the government claim that any bum who refuses jobs or hasnt worked for several years will be given community work etc... personally i reckon its about time...

whats people's views?
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Fantastic idea.
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Fuck it just take there money off them easy
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Get the lazy shits to do some work!! Then stop their pay till they've made the time up
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Deffo. You see the same faces round ours on the high street going to collect their giros and then walking straight into the pub or getting into their big bloody 4x4!
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I believe they do that here or put the people in FAS course so they get a qualification to get a job....

No complaints from me.
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Good idea but when are people in Jail going to be made to do some work - chain gangs is what we need!!
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Originally Posted by Dannn
Good idea but when are people in Jail going to be made to do some work - chain gangs is what we need!!
Another good idea.
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fucks me off.. i know a single mum with 3 kids... never worked.. massive house and more cash than me..
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i dont mind people who CANNOT work due to a REAL dissability etc but those proper bums need a kick up the cunt i say.

Takin me fuckin tax money wankers.
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IMO everyone on the dole has the right to have some choice in the kind of work they want to take on BUT some arseholes have been on the dole years and theres loads of jobs available

I reckon something like they should get 3 hits. If they turn the 3rd job down in 12 months that they have been offered they should lose their benefit...
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they shouldn't be given money at all.
they should have shopping vouchers for food/clothes only
utilities vouchers gas,water,elec.
job done.
i know so many ppl on the dole / benefits who have
money in there wallet , socialise , have the best
home electrical products plasma,xbox etc etc.
work and get money, don't work and get money!
who's the daft uns????????
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Originally Posted by Westy
fucks me off.. i know a single mum with 3 kids... never worked.. massive house and more cash than me..
go knob her then
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bout time even if its picking shit of the steets lazy fuckers.

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Yes, people have the right to chose, but as said, 3 strikes, after that, any work or dole is cut off.

Single mums, benefits for one kid, after that no more benefits, but help if you work full time. To many birds get the beans chuffed up them knowing they will get a nicer house, I know a few of them and they are in brand new builds, 3-4 kids and plent of cash

The problem is that the government are too soft, so why shouldn't people take the piss, it is being offered to them I produce publicity for local governments that remind people of what they can claim for making sure they don't miss out
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Overheard a couple of scrote hoes when dropping the kids off at school , saying that here fella was on incapacity benefits cause he has "depression" and that she was going to claim extra as his fucking "carer" wtf is all that about

Does me crust in ffs , i was brought up by my mum, beaten by my step father and almost died in a fucking fire, i still have the bollocks to ante up and get back on with life and make my contribution to this hole of a country, yet these leaches feed off us without EVER lifting a finger.

Give em the big needle job done and less taxes is the way forward
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by Westy
fucks me off.. i know a single mum with 3 kids... never worked.. massive house and more cash than me..
go knob her then
PMSL
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you got to look at it from another perspective.
if the government just stopped giving all the lazy coonts dole money and other help what would the country be like? lots of people on benefits, where would they all go?
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round your mums Lee for a good time
true through I see your point
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Everyone else coming to this country can find work , yet the spoungers cant
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exactly, strange hey!
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i agree with the 3 strikes thing and also think there should be a time limit on how long you can be on the doll for like say a year cos thats plenty of time to get a job or even an apprenticeship.

what also gets me really angry is that the governmentopen the doors to all imigrants and house them an clothe them an give them medical care and they cant speak any english and have never contributed to the big money pot by paying taxes AND they dont have to swear allegiance to this country!

this country really pisses me off, its goin down the shitter real quick
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another thing i dont mind someone being on the dole a while if they have worked a while too.....its these fookers who have left school and never work i hate

going back to my other point though its maybe a bit extreme but by us tax payers looking after them it makes a better place for us to live. Benefits are a necassary evil sort of thing. Place would be a slum if we just let people with no money and job roam the streets lol....like a third world country....

its the way it is....
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
you got to look at it from another perspective.
if the government just stopped giving all the lazy coonts dole money and other help what would the country be like? lots of people on benefits, where would they all go?
a lot better place. less tax money being wasted on lazy coonts and more tax being contributed to the pot which can therefore go into roads, NHS, etc.!!!!

if the government didnt give them money then they would have to get a job and contribute!
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thing is tho i was better off ont he dole but dident loke not working
now i wish i was back on it had loads of money back then and havent got fook all now

and when i did lose my job it took the coonts 6 months to sort my money out if i had just landed off a boat thay would have sorted me out with a nice house and loads of extra money pronto
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about bludy time- get them dodgy spongers working!!
maybe if they got off there fat a$$es a bit more we wouldn't need so many polish or imigrants to do jobs
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Originally Posted by chunt69
about bludy time- get them dodgy spongers working!!
maybe if they got off there fat a$$es a bit more we wouldn't need so many polish or imigrants to do jobs
and would you work for what pay thay take?
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Originally Posted by phil_focus
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
you got to look at it from another perspective.
if the government just stopped giving all the lazy coonts dole money and other help what would the country be like? lots of people on benefits, where would they all go?
a lot better place. less tax money being wasted on lazy coonts and more tax being contributed to the pot which can therefore go into roads, NHS, etc.!!!!

if the government didnt give them money then they would have to get a job and contribute!
doubt most of them would get a job even if they had to mate...... or the ones who cant cos of looking after their kids etc....its not all cut n dry is it or it would work like that
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In reality if the government stopped giving these scruffy cunts money crime would go through the roof imo, especially the likes of cars getting broken into and house break in's
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kinda what am getting at.....
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I thought the same amount of people had continued to claim with this initiative. So yeah, you get some 'free' work from the people but it doesnt cost the tax payer any less and doesnt encourage them to go out and get a proper job.
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Originally Posted by mark
Originally Posted by chunt69
about bludy time- get them dodgy spongers working!!
maybe if they got off there fat a$$es a bit more we wouldn't need so many polish or imigrants to do jobs
and would you work for what pay thay take?
point is i would work and do work mate and i've worked hard to gain skills to get where i am- theres the difference, sitting on my a$$ would have been alot easier
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Originally Posted by chunt69
Originally Posted by mark
Originally Posted by chunt69
about bludy time- get them dodgy spongers working!!
maybe if they got off there fat a$$es a bit more we wouldn't need so many polish or imigrants to do jobs
and would you work for what pay thay take?
point is i would work and do work mate and i've worked hard to gain skills to get where i am- theres the difference, sitting on my a$$ would have been alot easier
but would you work for the pay that polish and imigrants get

i use to work in a car wash and thay had russian guys working cash in hand thay took home £30 a week and i was on £100 there is no fucking way i would have dune that job for £30 a week

and most if not all imigrants and the like are doing cash work and are on the dole
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by phil_focus
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
you got to look at it from another perspective.
if the government just stopped giving all the lazy coonts dole money and other help what would the country be like? lots of people on benefits, where would they all go?
a lot better place. less tax money being wasted on lazy coonts and more tax being contributed to the pot which can therefore go into roads, NHS, etc.!!!!

if the government didnt give them money then they would have to get a job and contribute!
doubt most of them would get a job even if they had to mate...... or the ones who cant cos of looking after their kids etc....its not all cut n dry is it or it would work like that
i hadnt included the full time mum's. i bet at least half the lazy spongers would get a job but you are right, it isnt all black and white (is that not politically correct now-a-days?).

sorry if i came accross as having a go at you, i wasnt, just boils my blood this government!
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Originally Posted by mark
Originally Posted by chunt69
Originally Posted by mark
Originally Posted by chunt69
about bludy time- get them dodgy spongers working!!
maybe if they got off there fat a$$es a bit more we wouldn't need so many polish or imigrants to do jobs
and would you work for what pay thay take?
point is i would work and do work mate and i've worked hard to gain skills to get where i am- theres the difference, sitting on my a$$ would have been alot easier
but would you work for the pay that polish and imigrants get

i use to work in a car wash and thay had russian guys working cash in hand thay took home £30 a week and i was on £100 there is no fucking way i would have dune that job for £30 a week

and most if not all imigrants and the like are doing cash work and are on the dole
i can see this is obvio a matter close to you but there are plenty of jobs that you can do with or without skills that pay alot better than £30 a week ffs! look harder mate there are plenty of jobs out there
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Originally Posted by chunt69
Originally Posted by mark
Originally Posted by chunt69
Originally Posted by mark
Originally Posted by chunt69
about bludy time- get them dodgy spongers working!!
maybe if they got off there fat a$$es a bit more we wouldn't need so many polish or imigrants to do jobs
and would you work for what pay thay take?
point is i would work and do work mate and i've worked hard to gain skills to get where i am- theres the difference, sitting on my a$$ would have been alot easier
but would you work for the pay that polish and imigrants get

i use to work in a car wash and thay had russian guys working cash in hand thay took home £30 a week and i was on £100 there is no fucking way i would have dune that job for £30 a week

and most if not all imigrants and the like are doing cash work and are on the dole
i can see this is obvio a matter close to you but there are plenty of jobs that you can do with or without skills that pay alot better than £30 a week ffs! look harder mate there are plenty of jobs out there
re read what i put and anser me
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there plenty of jobs out there for more than £100 a week- wots ur point?? being on the doll is lazy thats my point!!
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Any muppet can go to an agency and pull 150+ a week taping up boxes or somethin. If you're not capable of doin that you should be put down, aside from obvious serious disabilities.
Saying that, I know a guy who has one arm and one shrivelled stump who works for a living. Theres something out there that most people COULD do but wouldn't be as well off doing.
How much is dole/ depression type disability anyway? I havent got a plasma and my newest car is only 51 plate....
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Originally Posted by phil_focus
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
you got to look at it from another perspective.
if the government just stopped giving all the lazy coonts dole money and other help what would the country be like? lots of people on benefits, where would they all go?
a lot better place. less tax money being wasted on lazy coonts and more tax being contributed to the pot which can therefore go into roads, NHS, etc.!!!!

if the government didnt give them money then they would have to get a job and contribute!
doubt most of them would get a job even if they had to mate...... or the ones who cant cos of looking after their kids etc....its not all cut n dry is it or it would work like that
for that bit it is
if you dn't work you have plenty of time to look after your own kids, so no free playgroups for them
if you do work the you get your kids looked after for free at the playgoups so you can go and earn some cash or them rather than sponge like a fuckwit with no intention of going back to work

so that's that problem sorted out

underaged mothers? if you get up the duff and have your kid under the legal age of consent (so you have your baby before you are 16 and 3/4's) no benifits for you for the rest of your life, simple
no council house, no help, give the kid up for adoption if you want but you knew the rules and blew your chance so if you can't do the time, don't do the crime

what else?
benifits other than the dole only paid out after you have been seen and assessed by a government docrot, who communtes into your area to see various people so your mate down the road can't say "i know this doc who's write you out a sheet" puts an end to it and job done

anything else that's getting on my tits?

stress, people who go off with stress shouldn't be reemployed in that job, end of, if you can't stand the heat, fook off

peole who get golden handshakes when they fuck up and get booted out, wtf is that all about? you fuckup and lose your job and get fired or whatever you shouldn't be standing there like a theiving gypo cunt with your hand out expecting a big fat cheque, fook off and ifnd a job you ain't shit at

i could go on but i won't

obviously there will be exceptions to the above rules but by and large if they were implimented tomorrow you'd have loads more cash and the scum out on the street, and if you ask "where are they going to go, what about their kids etc" then it's a question of them being skiving cunts and me not needing to pay for their tellies and trainers and flash motors

if they are that desperate for food and shelter they will acept what is on offer, a big field with a shed built in themiddle to house them all


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