My thoughts on PASSIONFORD
04-01-2008, 10:18 AM
#82
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Its got to be asked....
"Why the fook are you incredibly unhappy people all still here anyway?"
"Why the fook are you incredibly unhappy people all still here anyway?"
and yes, pot kettle etc bollocks, i moan about stuff that i want to moan about, the pf debate has been going on for months and until someoen says soemthng you won't know so people should stop making up random reasons and then trying to justify them because they have been morally outraged
04-01-2008, 10:20 AM
#83
Stu....
What really annoys me is that Petrucci knew he was selling the site but allowed the £10 offer to go ahead and then the permanent £10 membership fee to stay.
all im saying is that it was unfair of him to allow an enticing offer to go ahead when the future of the site is unsure.
I for one definately would not have paid for 2 years of gold membership had i known the site was being sold.
What really annoys me is that Petrucci knew he was selling the site but allowed the £10 offer to go ahead and then the permanent £10 membership fee to stay.
all im saying is that it was unfair of him to allow an enticing offer to go ahead when the future of the site is unsure.
I for one definately would not have paid for 2 years of gold membership had i known the site was being sold.
04-01-2008, 10:22 AM
#84
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...Stu well spare a tiny thought for those that donated to keep it here and to make such a wonderful site that you enjoy so much..without the donators you wouldnt be here.
04-01-2008, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...Stu well spare a tiny thought for those that donated to keep it here and to make such a wonderful site that you enjoy so much..without the donators you wouldnt be here.
Then more fool you. I paid mine so I could sell stuff on thie site which I can.
And the site is still here.
And works as before (if not 100% perfect, but exactly as before).
And nothing's changed.
So why is everyone complaining?
04-01-2008, 10:24 AM
#86
Originally Posted by markyd3
Stu....
What really annoys me is that Petrucci knew he was selling the site but allowed the £10 offer to go ahead and then the permanent £10 membership fee to stay.
What really annoys me is that Petrucci knew he was selling the site but allowed the £10 offer to go ahead and then the permanent £10 membership fee to stay.
04-01-2008, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...Stu well spare a tiny thought for those that donated to keep it here and to make such a wonderful site that you enjoy so much..without the donators you wouldnt be here.
Then more fool you. I paid mine so I could sell stuff on thie site which I can.
And the site is still here.
And works as before (if not 100% perfect, but exactly as before).
And nothing's changed.
So why is everyone complaining?
04-01-2008, 10:28 AM
#88
Originally Posted by RichardPON
You paid £10 as a donation?
Then more fool you. I paid mine so I could sell stuff on thie site which I can.
Then more fool you. I paid mine so I could sell stuff on thie site which I can.
04-01-2008, 10:29 AM
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...pon i was talking way back in the beginning....i am a trader and not donating at all now.
Stu i do see the point...its a great advertising place and very cheap....i guess us donators dont like to think petrucci has sold up and made a large sum of cash on a place us members created for him..lol.
Stu i do see the point...its a great advertising place and very cheap....i guess us donators dont like to think petrucci has sold up and made a large sum of cash on a place us members created for him..lol.
04-01-2008, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by markyd3
Stu....
What really annoys me is that Petrucci knew he was selling the site but allowed the £10 offer to go ahead and then the permanent £10 membership fee to stay.
What really annoys me is that Petrucci knew he was selling the site but allowed the £10 offer to go ahead and then the permanent £10 membership fee to stay.
Im sure Petrucci made enough out of the sale of the site without all the additional extra cash he has taken with him from the reduced membership fee con.
04-01-2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by lead_foot
He treated it like a business and made some money. What's the problem?
...no probs with that except he never thanked us for creating this site for him...yes we all got something out of it but its damn rude not to say anything and just sell.
04-01-2008, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...pon i was talking way back in the beginning....i am a trader and not donating at all now.
Stu i do see the point...its a great advertising place and very cheap....i guess us donators dont like to think petrucci has sold up and made a large sum of cash on a place us members created for him..lol.
Stu i do see the point...its a great advertising place and very cheap....i guess us donators dont like to think petrucci has sold up and made a large sum of cash on a place us members created for him..lol.
Pet created a place along with Stu for us users/members to use and buy and sell things when RSOC went offline!
04-01-2008, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...pon i was talking way back in the beginning....i am a trader and not donating at all now.
Stu i do see the point...its a great advertising place and very cheap....i guess us donators dont like to think petrucci has sold up and made a large sum of cash on a place us members created for him..lol.
Stu i do see the point...its a great advertising place and very cheap....i guess us donators dont like to think petrucci has sold up and made a large sum of cash on a place us members created for him..lol.
Pet created a place along with Stu for us users/members to use and buy and sell things when RSOC went offline!initially yes..and we choose to come here...when we were told it would close unless it had donations...many obliged..so not arse about face at all.
04-01-2008, 10:50 AM
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Im surprised Stu still defends this place, as far as i can see him and Petrucci created it and then Petrucci sold it from under him, made a lot of money and then buggered off.
seems to me Stu got shafted.
Out of interest where is the money going to for any new or renewed memberships now?
seems to me Stu got shafted.
Out of interest where is the money going to for any new or renewed memberships now?
04-01-2008, 10:55 AM
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Group Description: PassionFord Financial contributors. Only members who have very kindly contributed financially to the running of PassionFord are members of this group. These members also have access to "contributors only" areas of PassionFord. Thanks again.
So Stu its not been a donating site for a long while then? So by this whatever pet has sold the site for we are entitled to a slice of cash.
So Stu its not been a donating site for a long while then?
So by this whatever pet has sold the site for we are entitled to a slice of cash.
04-01-2008, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by markyd3
Originally Posted by lead_foot
He treated it like a business and made some money. What's the problem?
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04-01-2008, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
Group Description: PassionFord Financial contributors. Only members who have very kindly contributed financially to the running of PassionFord are members of this group. These members also have access to "contributors only" areas of PassionFord. Thanks again.
So Stu its not been a donating site for a long while then? So by this whatever pet has sold the site for we are entitled to a slice of cash.
So Stu its not been a donating site for a long while then?
So by this whatever pet has sold the site for we are entitled to a slice of cash. Go and look up the difference between contribution and donation.
04-01-2008, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...Stu well spare a tiny thought for those that donated to keep it here and to make such a wonderful site that you enjoy so much..without the donators you wouldnt be here.
Then more fool you. I paid mine so I could sell stuff on thie site which I can.
And the site is still here.
And works as before (if not 100% perfect, but exactly as before).
And nothing's changed.
So why is everyone complaining?
The old owner/s should have done an official thread about whats happening at least. As they havn't, many people see that as a kick in teeth for supporting them and giving them near £20,000 a year. It seems that contributors (more so the regular payers year after year), have been treated like mugs with no thanks for it at all.
04-01-2008, 03:41 PM
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Its a website I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.
Debs
I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.Debs
04-01-2008, 03:47 PM
#103
Originally Posted by truthordare
Its a website I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.
Debs
I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.Debs
04-01-2008, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by truthordare
Its a website I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.
Debs
I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.Debs
04-01-2008, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by S1rst
Originally Posted by RichardPON
Originally Posted by Bosch_Dealer
...Stu well spare a tiny thought for those that donated to keep it here and to make such a wonderful site that you enjoy so much..without the donators you wouldnt be here.
Then more fool you. I paid mine so I could sell stuff on thie site which I can.
And the site is still here.
And works as before (if not 100% perfect, but exactly as before).
And nothing's changed.
So why is everyone complaining?
The old owner/s should have done an official thread about whats happening at least. As they havn't, many people see that as a kick in teeth for supporting them and giving them near £20,000 a year. It seems that contributors (more so the regular payers year after year), have been treated like mugs with no thanks for it at all.
What else is the issue?
You're not a shareholder, nor did your contribution give you any ownership of anything to do with the site or related companies. Simple as that.
04-01-2008, 03:58 PM
#106
boy is this village idiot weekl just spent a hour removing shit from the daddy thrash this place is getting better by the day
pf is now not stu's resposiblity why keep fuckin picking when he cant answer he/we know fuck all so until pet or IB decide to say something !
sorry about the abrasive post but fuck whinging on wont change the issue its happened nothing we can do , sooner you reallise it the better and until the full FACTS are available can you then air ur views
so just chill out i spose sumat will come to light eventually
pf is now not stu's resposiblity why keep fuckin picking when he cant answer he/we know fuck all so until pet or IB decide to say something !
sorry about the abrasive post but fuck whinging on wont change the issue its happened nothing we can do , sooner you reallise it the better and until the full FACTS are available can you then air ur views
so just chill out i spose sumat will come to light eventually
04-01-2008, 04:23 PM
#107
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by markyd3
So sorry for daring to ask where my money has gone which i had assumed went towards the day to day running of the site.
It was also made clear that it was NOT a requirement to use PF.
All those features are still available to you.
if not then why should Petrucci or Stu keep my money!? it may only be a tenner but i'd rather it in my pocket then theres!
04-01-2008, 05:27 PM
#108
who's to say stu didn't pass the money on to pet to make it easy for the brits to fork out brit money and then convert a whole lot to francs?
peopl paid money to get the ability to sell and get free porn and stuff
they still get that so whats the big deal?
i thikn people are "assuming" that pet has fucked stu out of a whole load of cash and now want to bash the frog and show they moral outrage, simple
i can see the point of people saing there is still a problem with the site during the early evenings but we've lived with it for years and if it's not oging ot change the money coming in will soon stop and osmething will either break and be too costly to fix or someone will fork out to get it fixed (the new owners perhaps)
until we get a reply from pet there is nothing we cn do
i know i've trotted this story out day anfter day after day, but soemtimes i think stu gets a little pissed off that peole don't understand the easy explanation
peopl paid money to get the ability to sell and get free porn and stuff
they still get that so whats the big deal?
i thikn people are "assuming" that pet has fucked stu out of a whole load of cash and now want to bash the frog and show they moral outrage, simple
i can see the point of people saing there is still a problem with the site during the early evenings but we've lived with it for years and if it's not oging ot change the money coming in will soon stop and osmething will either break and be too costly to fix or someone will fork out to get it fixed (the new owners perhaps)
until we get a reply from pet there is nothing we cn do
i know i've trotted this story out day anfter day after day, but soemtimes i think stu gets a little pissed off that peole don't understand the easy explanation
04-01-2008, 06:06 PM
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There are a fair few wealthy people on here, and apparently 10,20 pounds is only a small amount anyway, so does anyone fancy donating me just a couple of quid each?
Even a pound each and I will personally go and look for pet and report my findings. Some of you will have the answers your after, which is all I ever stated I set out to do.
Pay £10, £20 and you can sell something and view other boards (nothing else though)
£1 and I will find answers
Even a pound each and I will personally go and look for pet and report my findings. Some of you will have the answers your after, which is all I ever stated I set out to do.
Pay £10, £20 and you can sell something and view other boards (nothing else though)
£1 and I will find answers
04-01-2008, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
So what was the deal, you got 100% of traders fees in exchange for your admin role, and Pet got 100% of gold members fees in exhange for kind of providing a server?
04-01-2008, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by foreigneRS
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
Originally Posted by Chip-3Door
So what was the deal, you got 100% of traders fees in exchange for your admin role, and Pet got 100% of gold members fees in exhange for kind of providing a server?
If stu didnt want to discuss what he did and didnt get he wouldnt have mentioned the gold members surely?
05-01-2008, 07:13 AM
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Actually i missed it totally as i was on the next page.
I am not going into who did and didnt pay for what as its none of anyone business, i commented as someone suggested i had the gold membership money that everyone is so unhappy about.
However,
Ive told you all before that PF was NOT a money making excersize for me, so for the record, NO, i didnt have all the trade money either. PassionFord existed because i love the cars and the community. No other reason.
Now ive moved on to my own forum which wont get as out of control as this one as i will be applying what ive learnt here over the years, as the current content shows quite nicely.
I am not going into who did and didnt pay for what as its none of anyone business, i commented as someone suggested i had the gold membership money that everyone is so unhappy about.
However,
Ive told you all before that PF was NOT a money making excersize for me, so for the record, NO, i didnt have all the trade money either. PassionFord existed because i love the cars and the community. No other reason.
Now ive moved on to my own forum which wont get as out of control as this one as i will be applying what ive learnt here over the years, as the current content shows quite nicely.
05-01-2008, 09:15 AM
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I once turned my PC off, left the house and found a life, maybe some of you lot should try it,
ITS NOT THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD ..... yet
Muppets
ITS NOT THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD ..... yet
Muppets
More concerned for people that depend on this site for income, I know Mark decided not to trade or use his company name on here.
Can I suggest you migrate to Stus new site where I now go for Tech Knowledge & help, it will take away the obvious stress this site is giving people, as the guy above said their is an 'OFF' button on your computer use it & go & enjoy your life its far too short to spend so much time on here. I consider myself a regular user with 1.8 posts a day & yet I see people with 20+ a day, take advice from someone older get a life for F**ks sake.
05-01-2008, 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by truthordare
Its a website I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.
Debs
I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.Debs
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05-01-2008, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by truthordare
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by truthordare
Its a website I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.
Debs
I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.Debs
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05-01-2008, 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by truthordare
Originally Posted by Stu @ M Developments
Originally Posted by truthordare
Its a website I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.
Debs
I'm sure you have all had more than your £10 or (god forbid) £20 from it, its been bloody entertaining and knowledgeable for a good while, now its just full of people saying why should I renew!! If you don't want to then don't, I paid £20, who cares, its £20 It won't break the bank, Petrucci is a businessman and he did what he had to do, it doesn't matter, its a website, there are lots of them out there for Ford enthusiasts, if you don't like the way the sites gone then find another one. Its just business, nobody sold anybody out, it was never personal, its just business.Debs
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05-01-2008, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Redkop
If Pet or the new owners had taken our Gold Membership money, done a runner with it and closed down PassionFord, I'd understand why people would moan.... but this hasn't happened and nothing's changed. PF is still here and being used by the same people using the bandwidth someone is providing.... so you haven't been ripped off as PF is still here and you still have the same Gold Member rights!
Just because people have contributed to help PF stay online, it doesn't give them the God given right to demand to know what is happening behind the scenes. If the firm you work for is involved in a takeover, you don't go marching to the owner and demand facts - do you?
I know that if I was in Pet's shoes and seen all the villifying threads written about me, it'd make me all the more stubborn about replying and I'd think 'fuck you lot'.
As Stu says... "Why the fook are you incredibly unhappy people all still here anyway?" FFS all you whingers and moaners get a grip and get a life and leave PF to the people who still enjoy using it and aren't bothered who owns it, just as long it stays online.
Just because people have contributed to help PF stay online, it doesn't give them the God given right to demand to know what is happening behind the scenes. If the firm you work for is involved in a takeover, you don't go marching to the owner and demand facts - do you?
I know that if I was in Pet's shoes and seen all the villifying threads written about me, it'd make me all the more stubborn about replying and I'd think 'fuck you lot'.
As Stu says... "Why the fook are you incredibly unhappy people all still here anyway?" FFS all you whingers and moaners get a grip and get a life and leave PF to the people who still enjoy using it and aren't bothered who owns it, just as long it stays online.