vroomtshh

I smell shite. I've had a few 2.0 vauxhalls and one LET, and none of them would get anywhere close to 50mpg. It was a struggle to get 40.

C4llyT

Smell what you like
I had it reading 50mpg over 14 miles of country A roads mainly, work to home, driving as gently as possible, and 6th gear cruising at 30 odd mph.
When I checked obc overead by 3mpg.
As you'll no dount know the let is fantastic off boost, happy to potter along at 1000 revs in any gear, and has a tall 6th gear.
We're talking an average of 40mph here, not 70, wouldn't do that mpg at motorway speeds.
Obviously took a lot of forward planning, and reading the road ahead, so no doubt why I could get a lot more mpg than you

Mike1

Autocar tested E36 M3 with 286bhp ( manual ) and Evo M3 ( 321bhp )with SMG
Also tested St TDci Mondeo

They test in-gear figures in the gears but I don't think they do 100-120 increment for Mondeo ( maybe M3 ).
Certainly do 80-100 and below increments though

DangerousBryan

your onboard computer might have been saying 50mpg but you weren't doing it mate.to get to 300hp you either have to up the fuel pressure or fit bigger injectors,both of which will throw your onboard computer out. best i ever got out of my 300hp cav turbo was 400 miles on a full tank.which i get to be about 30mpg on 60 litres?

bryan

C4llyT

As I actually said, it did overead, and obviously had upped fuel pressure
Also, it was over 14 miles, not a tankful - couldn't drive like that for long, too tiring.

It did Poole to Oswestry and back on a full tank, getting stuck in a lot of traffic and not hanging about, so 450+ miles.

xr2i-carl

man if you feather the throttle like a granny and go majorly slow etc you will achieve a decent MPG figure in any normal sized engine/car, unless it running rich.

You will just be overtaken by every other car on the road and it will take months to get anywhere

C4llyT

Carl - driving the same way in the M3 it just about tops 30 mpg...
Still a big engine to fuel no matter what work it's doing I guess.

No one ever believes how good the calibra is on fuel, don't blame them.
But to get those sort of returns is not a nice driving manner, and not sustainable for very long.
But that engine started out with decent power before the turbo was added to them, happily potters along at 1000 revs in 6th at 30mph odd.
The M3 is happy doing that too, but the mpg seems to suffer as opposed to 2000 revs or so.

As an aside, had to tow the calibra through rush hour traffic the other morning, it broke down
Used a golf tdi, foot to floor most the way, averaged 41 mpg I think it was, just takes the piss

Hard to say no to these modern diesels, I'm torn between a 330D and a sapphire cosworth lol

xr2i-carl

330d mate everytime re-map and you will beat most average ones anyway

C4llyT

But it wasn't the 330d that blew up and had me crying when I was a lad watching Spender!

Sure like a lot on here the sapphire cosworth has an appeal that can't be too well described, and is hard to resist.
Is a legend

Rhys

fair price diff, but know which one i would have

xr2i-carl

Yes it is mate, but hard to find a decent one, i tried and failed. They were all shite, gave up mate and saw the light

Benni

Here is a video of a Mondeo TDCI 115ps, I mean it's not exactly slow. Block shifting from 3rd to 5th aswel...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fd5LonuRBZM

Benni.

biglee

if anyone feels the need to see which is faster, i will happly go up against a stdci in my M3... all day... i would kill it

C4llyT

Me too
Diesels are deceptive, last one I drove had half the bhp of mine, but felt 3 times quicker way it kept throwing me back in the seat.
Looking at the speedo you realise you're not really getting anywhere.

Chip

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Well if someone in this thread is going to get compared to me, im glad its person who is actually talking sense

bud-weis

lol

C4llyT

Bud - Hope the Amsoil works as well for you as it did for me

Chip - That still going on? How flattering, for me, of course

bud-weis

my very first stalker you aren't female by any chance are you??

i hope it does too btw!

ballin

iTrader: (1)

Ooooh! Is there a little bending of the truth there!! Daddy giving you his car isn't strictly classified as "looking at saph cossie's but giving up and seeing the light" now is it.

Chip

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C4llyT

Dunno what the crack is there, but he's driving a smart, new, expensive, quality car

Mind you, if I was given 30k (or whatever it is) of car by my old dear, think I'd say I'd bought it myself in all honesty

DanCossie

iTrader: (1)

you would be a bit of a saddo then lol

C4llyT

Why?
To me would feel more of a "saddo" in saying the flash motor I'm driving was bought for me by my mum.
Can't say for sure, I got a £400 mk3 Escort 1.1 bought for me

DanCossie

iTrader: (1)

i would prefer to say i had nice parents that bought me something than have to lie to make myself look better may just be me.

hence im looking at Boxsters not 911s as i personally cant afford more than that

C4llyT

All have our own views mate

As a grown man having my car bought for me, and having to admit that, would at times stick in the throat a bit.

DanCossie

iTrader: (1)

why is that mate?? bit too proud maybe? i understand were ya coming from.....but your telling me if your parents offered to buy your first house to help you, you would turn it down

C4llyT

No not too proud, not proud at all
Just I'm a grown man, bit sad if I can't finance my own wheels.
In fact I keep hinting at them giving me some money to buy a house.
Many are left money in a will, often when they are financially secure, and don't need the money.
Makes sense if you're going to be left money, to have it when you need it, if possible.

A house is a totally different matter, there is no comparison.
Many many peoples only way onto the ladder is their parents lending a helping hand.
Not to mention the fact it appreciates in value, is a roof over your head, gets you out from under their feet etc etc


Anyway, back to M3's... lol

Mondeo diesel won't keep up with http://www.bcw3design.com/m3/m3_rot_perf.htm

DAN P

iTrader: (1)

i would put my m3 up against a tdci any day

xr2i-carl

I have bought the 335d no anyhow ouch

Ballin, i was an e36 beforehand for two years.. looked at saffs before that and they were shite. the e36 was the light, the 335d is the SUN

C4llyT

Inspection 2 service will be the tornado or the hurricane?