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I nicely installed all my pipework before dropping the bath in. At the time, it was watertight up to the closed valves. I added the copper tails and tightened the compression fittings as much as I thought they needed.
We put the bath in place which in itself was enough stress for one complete lifetime (due to it being a £700 bath and a £700 piece of glass around it with only about 1/2" to spare all round)
I then put the pushfit connectors on and got everything else connected. However, both top compression nuts/olives are leaking. I have progressively tightened them more and more, although it is restricted space, so its a challenge. I now feel that they are very tight, but still leaking very slightly. So slight that I did wonder for a while if it was condensation. You can see from the pics that the tops of the top nuts are very slightly wet.
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I am about to remove everything upwards of the valves to re-do it with new copper and olives etc. Any tips?!!? Should I be using any kind of compound or anything to make things more reliable? How tight should these compression fittings really need to be?
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We put the bath in place which in itself was enough stress for one complete lifetime (due to it being a £700 bath and a £700 piece of glass around it with only about 1/2" to spare all round)
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I then put the pushfit connectors on and got everything else connected. However, both top compression nuts/olives are leaking. I have progressively tightened them more and more, although it is restricted space, so its a challenge. I now feel that they are very tight, but still leaking very slightly. So slight that I did wonder for a while if it was condensation. You can see from the pics that the tops of the top nuts are very slightly wet.
![](https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v16/christianbeccy/BathPipework001.jpg)
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I am about to remove everything upwards of the valves to re-do it with new copper and olives etc. Any tips?!!? Should I be using any kind of compound or anything to make things more reliable? How tight should these compression fittings really need to be?
HELP ME PLEASE!!
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don't do the nuts up so tight next time,
the olives seal easy with little compression,
to much will distort them,
no need to use sealing compound
and is it mainly the pipe on the right?
as looks as tho the radius is going into
the fitting and the pipe may still be out of
round from the formed bend
the olives seal easy with little compression,
to much will distort them,
no need to use sealing compound
and is it mainly the pipe on the right?
as looks as tho the radius is going into
the fitting and the pipe may still be out of
round from the formed bend
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it will be brass olives they can be a bugger to tighten in a tight space take them out wrap a spot off ptfe on them bout 5 wraps put back in and tighten failing that cut the olivs off and get softer copper olives, that will do the trick! also make sure there is no bend atall where u are compressing the olive on to it has to be perfectly straight
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I can cut new pipes, not the end of the world. Well, getting at any of it is a pain in the scrundies, but there you go.
This fucking bath is fighting me ALL the fucking way. Good job it looks the bollocks, thats the only thing thats keep me going. Well, the missus' sexual advances to cheer me up certainly help keep me sane!!
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if he had over tightened them u would see the olive comming out of the fitting. just remember on compresion fittings its a turn and a quarter
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i usually level the bath leggs before i set the bath in place then its just a few minor adjustments when you get it in place Christian and Beccy
so when u breaking the bath in
so when u breaking the bath in
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Originally Posted by brs
have you ever came across a bathroom floor thats level tho
i haven't
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Originally Posted by rigwrecker
i usually level the bath leggs before i set the bath in place then its just a few minor adjustments when you get it in place Christian and Beccy
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so when u breaking the bath in
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brs wrote:
have you ever came across a bathroom floor thats level tho i haven't
Yes!! Only when we work for a certain builder on new builds! Other than that - no chance!
have you ever came across a bathroom floor thats level tho i haven't
Yes!! Only when we work for a certain builder on new builds! Other than that - no chance!
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by rigwrecker
i usually level the bath leggs before i set the bath in place then its just a few minor adjustments when you get it in place Christian and Beccy
so when u breaking the bath in![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
so when u breaking the bath in
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Could be the bends as said christian, the bender alters the pipe circumference past the bend and your bends are close to the fitting as it is....
Any reason for the bends anyways? After all, flexi pipes are to save fooking about bending etc anyway
Any reason for the bends anyways? After all, flexi pipes are to save fooking about bending etc anyway
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by rigwrecker
i usually level the bath leggs before i set the bath in place then its just a few minor adjustments when you get it in place Christian and Beccy
so when u breaking the bath in![Wink](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif)
so when u breaking the bath in
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I went to visit my aunti and uncle who have just moved up to the top end ov avimore (sp) there isnt even a flat piece ov land in scotland
so i think that the scottish bubbles are seconds
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Could be the bends as said christian, the bender alters the pipe circumference past the bend and your bends are close to the fitting as it is....
Any reason for the bends anyways? After all, flexi pipes are to save fooking about bending etc anyway![Top](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/smile011.gif)
Any reason for the bends anyways? After all, flexi pipes are to save fooking about bending etc anyway
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yep a must admit a level bathroom is rare the worst one was a do it yourself twit that done the floor in a wet room it was 6ft by 9ft and it had 3" of run
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looking at that first pic again, it may be worth trying to renew the pipe with the leaking joint and making it a bit longer before the bend. As the bend is quite close to the IV.
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Originally Posted by brs
I went to visit my aunti and uncle who have just moved up to the top end ov avimore (sp) there isnt even a flat piece ov land in scotland
so i think that the scottish bubbles are seconds
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Originally Posted by rigwrecker
yep a must admit a level bathroom is rare the worst one was a do it yourself twit that done the floor in a wet room it was 6ft by 9ft and it had 3" of run
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I wanted large bore Flexi's and finding them with 3/4 tap fitting one end and a decent quality push-fit the other was a nightmare. Couldn't get these particular ones any longer.
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Originally Posted by brs
yep cos another 3 hours n your in the water
oni joking i'm shit at geography ![Big Grin](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif)
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Originally Posted by rigwrecker
yep a must admit a level bathroom is rare the worst one was a do it yourself twit that done the floor in a wet room it was 6ft by 9ft and it had 3" of run
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Originally Posted by rigwrecker
Originally Posted by mercury xr
Originally Posted by rigwrecker
yep a must admit a level bathroom is rare the worst one was a do it yourself twit that done the floor in a wet room it was 6ft by 9ft and it had 3" of run
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Dont have much luck with this bathroom malarky do ya pal? ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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None of it is conventional.
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Sorry Chris....just got your PM
Now i have seen the pics, i would sway towards re-piping it fella......Just keep the formed bend away from the compresion fitting
Now i have seen the pics, i would sway towards re-piping it fella......Just keep the formed bend away from the compresion fitting
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Dont have much luck with this bathroom malarky do ya pal? ![Surprised](https://passionford.com/forum/images/smilies/bigcry.gif)
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None of it is conventional.
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